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Originally posted by itgrowls Originally posted by eyelolled I hear alot of particular people going on about how GW2 isn't "all that" and I just wanted to know what game or games are so much better than GW2. I beleive it was GeezerGamer that had suggested GW2 was a great game for when you only had a short period of time, so maybe I should look at what games some of these more enlightened individuals play in case I want to spend some longer periods in a game. Please share with us, all of your expert suggestions. EDIT: Oh and please don't leave silly posts like "Game-X is the bomb, it's way better." We all would like to hear what actual mechanics make these games so much better.
I don't think anyone here is going to be shocked that you agree with OP. By the way this topics is for 'haters' to explain superiority of other MMOS over GW2. Not for the fanatics to high five each other.
Originally posted by Karteli Originally posted by BigAndShiny Snip
Everquest had more quality than SWTOR.
WoW had more quality than SWTOR.
SWTOR's F2P model is a joke. EA is just trying to tank their game to get out of the Lucas contract. Everything points to this.
SWTOR had great story, but that is why EA wants out of the contract so bad. You finish a story. An MMORPG you don't finish. SWTOR wasn't an MMORPG.
The story ends. EA wants out, so they tank the game, making it so no new subscribers will want to play. Game loses money, and EA can excuse themselves from a contract with Lucas .. under the clause about the game underperforming.
Not to go off topic, but there's no need to try and prove someones opinion on game preference or quality wrong. They obviously like SWTOR for reasons over WoW and EQ - that being story as explained in there post. Nothing wrong with that.
Bringing EQ and WoW into a post that never mentioned them only to start a debate is just going to derail the thread more, something you complained of already in this topic. This thread is over why someone prefers a game over GW2, not why WoW is better than SWTOR for example.
For what it's worth (and to not be completely off topic), I agree pretty much with all they said - I play SWTOR over GW2 for those reasons.
Originally posted by halflife25 Originally posted by itgrowls Originally posted by eyelolled I hear alot of particular people going on about how GW2 isn't "all that" and I just wanted to know what game or games are so much better than GW2. I beleive it was GeezerGamer that had suggested GW2 was a great game for when you only had a short period of time, so maybe I should look at what games some of these more enlightened individuals play in case I want to spend some longer periods in a game. Please share illith us, all of your expert suggestions. EDIT: Oh and please don't leave silly posts like "Game-X is the bomb, it's way better." We all would like to hear what actual mechanics make these games so much better.
I don't think anyone here is going to eb shocked that you agree with OP. By the way this topics if ro 'haters' to explain superiority of other MMOS over GW2. Not for the fanatics to high five each other.
The problem with the OP's logic is that he's trying to compare manly anatomical sizes, so to speak, which is kind of irrelevant.
I don't need to play a "better" game, better being rather subjective. Sometimes I need toplay something "different". For example, GW2 is yet another fantasy mmorpg, so somebody who is tired of the constant fantasy mmorpg barrage may not get the same experience with somebody who isn't.
Also, while GW2 does some things good, it doesn't do some others as well, or doesn't do them at all. For example, people who love the tanking or healing role in mmorpgs, will not get the same pleasure out of this mmorpg compared to the dpsers (who don't care anyway).
I can go on like this, but the bottom line is that a game doesn't need to be better to be an alternative choice. Better is really subjective anyway and it depends on our preferences. The title of the best themepark game means little to somebody who is looking for a sandbox experience, for example.
I'll take you for your word OP and that you really are interested in what others play. I've never played GW2 and did not buy it for many reasons that are personal to me but I have commented on it as I've watched the pre and post release drama unfold its been quite entertaining.
So to the point I'm back playing Vanguard again for my third time as at last Vanguard is getting some love from SOE that it badly needs but at its heart Vanguard is a massive world of wonders to play in, with great races and clases, deep crafting and a fantasticly original diplomacy system that I love playing. I don't know if its superior to GW2 because as I said I've never played GW2, I only left because SOE abandoned the game for a time which made me to sad to play but its just a game I like to play and at the end of the day and thats all that matter, right? I know my sig is a little dig at SOE's version of F2P but overall they still have 3 of the best MMORPG's around in my eyes and I play EQ & EQ2 from time to time, maybe they'll get the f2p thing eventually.
EDIT: I'm also playing Sacred 2 a hack 'n' slasher that has a great character customising system, 5 difficulties with 200 levels, a huge world where you can quest anywhere you want, 2 main storymodes and 7 class stories to play through, its got a bonkers sense of humour and is just a delight to play, makes me smile a lot.
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I managed to get to level 60 (warrior) in GW2 before I left. Its just not my type of game. I'm currently playing RaiderZ, and World of Warcraft MoP. I'm also playing Firefall off and on.
What I like about RaiderZ is their active combat system. It compares quite well to Tera's combat system. The graphics are not quite as good (especially the eye candy), but I'm enjoying it.
As for WoW MoP, its got a LOT of content, and I have managed to get one of my five 85's to 90 (warrior). I'm currently playing the monk class(level 36). To tell you the truth, I'm not sure I'm going to take my monk all the way to 90. The monk class has its advantages, but nothing one of my other 85's can't do better. I have a level 90 warrior, and four 85's (Rogue, Death Knight, Hunter, Pally).
I like the new direction that Red5 is taking Firefall. The much more active Chosen attacks and new combat dynamics are making a big difference. I'll be watching to see how much further this extends.
Playing a little Vanguard and DDO, but mostly playing Painkiller: Hell & Damnation, Killing Floor, Skyrim, and Legend of Grimrock.
No matter how cynical you become, its never enough to keep up - Lily Tomlin
It is with great reluctance... That I have agreed to this calling... err game... but I resubbed SWTOR for the time being. Despite it'S many severe flaws, I still have a few class stories I like to see. Wish I could play them only without the planet stuff in the replay.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
I'm having fun in LOTRO and Rift.
LOTRO for the new expansion content and mounted combat, which I'm loving. I have a lot of friends in LOTRO so will probably raid but for now, I'm taking my time leveling up to the new cap.
Rift is a new thing I'm trying that's very, VERY much like WoW back in TBC. But the spawning rifts are cool and even as a lowbie noob, I felt OP clearing rifts by myself. Been a long time since I felt any kind of OP in a game. I am intrigued by the housing coming in the expansion on the 12th so I bought the xpac and subbed for a month to see what's up.
While I love TSW and have a lifetime sub, I haven't logged in for 10 days. My cabal is falling apart and it's getting in the way of my desire to log in.
Lord of The Rings Online
Dungeons & Dragons Online
I'm a cheap player but don't care. I do buy stuff but very very rarely and as long as others buy turbine points then hopefully despite layoffs the games will continue. I intend to make purchases from their online stores now and again so I'm not a total Scrooge but I do buy very very very sparingly compared to spending on a sub or B2P.
Originally posted by eyelolled Originally posted by elocke Saying "you want to know what game others consider SUPERIOR to GW2" is baiting and you know it. I'm not playing GW2 right now and won't until they add systems to the game to keep me IN the game but I wouldn't consider the other games I'm playing "superior". Just better designed and good old standby's that have already proved themselves to me. Such as Rift, Lotro and WoW. I'm literally playing all 3 currently depending on which game my mood suits. I like WoW for chatting with friends, fun PVE, awesome music and lots to do thanks to the new MoP expack. I play Lotro because I have a lifetime sub and the new expansion is fantastic. Great music, great story, fun PVE, and I like logging in for my Hytbold dailies. I play Rift, because they know how to spend my monthly sub and are constantly growing the game and adding new systems to it on a very consistent timely basis and it's about to grow 2 fold in 2 weeks with a new expack. The housing alone will hold me over for quite a long time, just like it did in FFXI, EQ2 and SWG.
If they like a game a little bit more, than it's superior in their opinion. It's a simple thing. And take a look at the posts. I haven't said anything about another game, I've listened to peoples opinions and appreciated their input.
Why is it baiting if I claim that there are games out there superior to GW2? Other people have obviously made claims that GW2 is inferior, so I'm just trying to understand their perspective.
Your responses have been fine, but the original title of the thread, before it was changed to "NOT-GW2", was quite a bit less friendly. That's why people questioned your motive. I guess you could say "Freudian Slip". Though it's a more credible now that it's been edited.
I'm playing Rift primarily. It's not the best game ever, but it's the best game now. Don't get me wrong. I'm no Rift fanboy. This game has issues. In fact, one I had deemed to be game breaking.(Cookie cutter specs) and I quit over it. I returned when I realized there wasn't much out there that was better. There are other issues as well. People have made a lot of complaints about Rift and many are very valid. But saying it's too much like WoW (currently), I'd disagree with. Yes it has more than a few similarities. Many people remember what it was like at release. But people are forgetting. Both Rift and WoW have been evolving in different directions since this game was conceived. While it plays and feels a lot like WoW, there is also many things that are very different. Especially now with MoP. They've grown apart. The individual features and functions have been discussed, Really, a simple browse through the Rift discussion forums will show you what you are looking for in terms of specific answers. To me, I think one of Rifts best features is the open world PVE raid system. I really enjoy the invasions.
Skyrim still, Borderlands 2, Torchlight 2 and Dungeon Defenders, still.
And WoW occasionally, although all of my friends quit so its a bit boring.
Well.. GW2 didn't dissapoint me, but somehow I stopped playing anyway. I didn't give me the 'healthy addiction' other MMORPGs gave me. Also college started and I was very busy with it so that was also a factor. I am planning on giving GW2 another go this week since I have a lazy module (yay!).
What I am playing a lot in the meanwhile:
- Pokémon Heart Gold and Black 2
- Fifa 13
As you can see, no MMORPGs at all, sad actually.
- Natural Selection 2
- Pirate 101
- A lot of games from GOG.com. You know, when developers took gameplay over graphics ;]
Dark Souls PC with the community patch and mouse fix.
Its hard, its fun and its more RPG than GW2 ever will be.
If you think GW2 has some level of difficulty then I would not advise you to play dark souls. I am pretty sure you wouldn't get through the tutorial.
---Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Originally posted by eyelolled I hear alot of particular people going on about how GW2 isn't "all that" and I just wanted to know what game or games are so much better than GW2. I beleive it was GeezerGamer that had suggested GW2 was a great game for when you only had a short period of time, so maybe I should look at what games some of these more enlightened individuals play in case I want to spend some longer periods in a game. Please share with us, all of your expert suggestions. EDIT: Oh and please don't leave silly posts like "Game-X is the bomb, it's way better." We all would like to hear what actual mechanics make these games so much better.
Your main post title is worth the same like u were asking: So what ppl eat if not cabbages. I mean,if your main title's post was what ppl play if not wow would have a meaning since wow sold 12 million copies and has a steady base of 7-8 million ppl playing. You cant ask this though for gw2 cause its a mediocre mmorpg with average sales.
Originally posted by Inf666 Dark Souls PC with the community patch and mouse fix. Its hard, its fun and its more RPG than GW2 ever will be. If you think GW2 has some level of difficulty then I would not advise you to play dark souls. I am pretty sure you wouldn't get through the tutorial.
I'm pretty sure MMO-centric gamers couldn't get through most RPG tutorials...
Currently playing Vindictus because it has supperior action combat with real physics. Envorinment as weapons, Breakable armor, and it is actually free.
Also Vindictus has large scale 24 man PvE raids with gear progression. Guild Wars 2 doesn't even offer raids as PvE end game. Without the better gear progression carrot there is really no reason to play a game like Guild Wars 2.
DayZ and Borderlands 2 atm.
Waiting for DF:UW
Originally posted by lifeordinary Do we really need another one of these? it is quite clear you have no intention of having a discussion and just want to vent your frustration because well not everybody is in love with GW2. Why insult intelligence of others by pretending that you actually care for their opinion? 'Please share us with your expert suggestion'. I think that gives away your intentions behind this topic. Nice attempt at baiting though.
You are AWESOME. I read the OP's post and thought the exact same thing, but my response wasn't going to be nearly awesome.
nothing and here is why:
The reason I won't touch another game by ncsoft is this:
http://www.l2guru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33758 - notice the post was made in mid 2006
*Note* you have to create an account to view this thread... it's free.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2316034.............Retired Gamer: all MMORPG's have been destroyed by big business, marketing of false promises, unprofessional game makers, and a generation of "I WIN and GIVE ME NOW".
Thanks for all the responses! Even though there have been a few people that feel my thread was inappropriate, the majority of posters gave me valuable feedback.
What I've learned.
The majority of posters who've quit GW2 feel that even though GW2 is not an "inferior" game to any notable extent, but chose to or ended up playing something else.
Some people played TERA. This is great news to me because I've thought about TERA with it's stunning character models and alternative approach to combat, as a game I might like to try once I've had my fill of GW2
Some people played Rift. This is good to know as well. I don't have any intention on playing Rift, but I think Trion deserves props for putting out a solid effort at keeping their community satisfied.
Some people play EVE and other sandbox games. This is more what I expected for answers, and I see there is a sizeable amount of sandboxers on this site.
Thanks again to those who participated. I appreciate those people that have shared the games they enjoy over GW2. They have proven to me that they are not trolls and I will continue to value their opinions as they share them in the future. These are people that I do not want to block, because even though their opinion may be contrary to mine, it's still valuable and honest.
All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.
I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.
I don't hate much, but I hate Apple© with a passion. If Steve Jobs was alive, I would punch him in the face.
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