Originally posted by Fearmeirl I've sent them to AV and local police (i know, lol, it wont do anything since they reside in EU), because I want it legally documentated incase a full case has to be filled in the future.
Perhaps you should contact INTERPOL and tell them about the mean nasty mods?
Originally posted by FearmeirlBecause it was deleted. Every attempt to talk about the game in any negative light or constructive criticism is immediately deleted and the users are suspended or banned. Its amazes me how people have dealt with it so long, thank GOD the darkfall forum mods have no real power in DF. I've emailed AV directly multiple times and sent a complaint to the BBB since AV refuses to act on their own maybe they will respond to outside pressure.It also goes beyond censorship, I and others have actually been personally attacked by AV's forum mods via PM's and emails including one instance of a real life threat from one of the "lead moderators". Since I believe posting them here would be against the ToS, if anyone wants a copy PM me. I've sent them to AV and local police (i know, lol, it wont do anything since they reside in EU), because I want it legally documentated incase a full case has to be filled in the future.This is just a basic warning to anyone who uses DF Forums, be ready for angry hate tells from AV staff if you disagree with anything they say or do.
Abusive tyrannical Moderators do not try to censor negative posters by threatening them in pms or emails -they just ban or suspend. Their problem solved.
From this and the flood of posters describing just the opposite of what you described, Im calling this a failed attempt to fling poo.
We need to start thinking of MMO's as we do music or literature or the movies. There is not one MMO or one game that will be universally satisfactory to everyone's taste. MMO's don't come in one genre just as books or music doesn't come in one genre. Change and innovation is a good thing in the MMO industry just as it is in literature and music, but every MMO doesn't need to push the envelope or be cutting edge to be "good" or fun. It just needs to be good. The same is true for music. The same is true for books or for movies. Music evolves. MMO's evolve. Storytelling evolves. And in doing so, it doesn't make obsolete or not enjoyable everything that's been done before.
I haven't heard of anythign like this. I have read plenty of really negative posts and haven't seen on post closed/deleted unless it was already being discussed or postings a way to cheat.
Sure sure, all the criticism is getting stomped on by the mods. I'm sure anyone who goes to actually look will find nothing but good comments on the official forums. They are also being one sided and are not locking threads that go against said criticism like this one.
What a load of BS. If anything, Darkfall forums can be accused for a complete lack of moderation.
Here's an example, this is my post, in a thread started by AV staff, so it's not some obscure thread that they don't read, these are DIRECT responses to AV employees.
What would have been a cooler story if you didn't RP like a faggot and provided some real info about races and thinking that went behind them, and *gasp* post a video too! Fuck, even a screenshot of all the races next to one another!
After all, you are 4 weeks away from launching, god damn.
Stop mocking us. You know what, screw off until you have something useful to say. All the shit you've just said we've been doing just fine for the past 2+ years on our own. So bugger off and don't pretend like you give a damn now, especially when you didn't even have a decency to "FACILITATE" (look it up, I'm sure that's an unknown vocabulary to you) a proper "The End Of Darkfall" event(s). You are such a pathetic company when it comes to your playerbase.
Sincerely disappointed, Your random pissed off subscriber since March, 2009.
no infraction, no post deletion. What do you know. If you were on Darkfall forums, this would be the section of the post where I call you number of "x"-words and point out your shortcomings IRL.
What a load of BS. If anything, Darkfall forums can be accused for a complete lack of moderation.
Here's an example, this is my post, in a thread started by AV staff, so it's not some obscure thread that they don't read, these are DIRECT responses to AV employees.
What would have been a cooler story if you didn't RP like a faggot and provided some real info about races and thinking that went behind them, and *gasp* post a video too! Fuck, even a screenshot of all the races next to one another!
After all, you are 4 weeks away from launching, god damn.
Stop mocking us. You know what, screw off until you have something useful to say. All the shit you've just said we've been doing just fine for the past 2+ years on our own. So bugger off and don't pretend like you give a damn now, especially when you didn't even have a decency to "FACILITATE" (look it up, I'm sure that's an unknown vocabulary to you) a proper "The End Of Darkfall" event(s). You are such a pathetic company when it comes to your playerbase.
Sincerely disappointed, Your random pissed off subscriber since March, 2009.
no infraction, no post deletion. What do you know. If you were on Darkfall forums, this would be the section of the post where I call you number of "x"-words and point out your shortcomings IRL.
I posted a thread that got deleted. IT had no foul language in it. It basically just said I wish there was a stomp animation or they change the name... and the explosive arrow should be a fire explosion, not green gas.
THE THREAD WAS TAME...
But it got deleted.
Maybe they just had system issues or something and it got lost.
I DON'T KNOW.
But I made a thread, and it is no longer there, which is odd considering the vulgar language used in every other thread.
I've actually seen a few threads deleted off of their forums for random stuff, Not all of it was even that negative or offensive .. It just has to offend the right person and its gone. even the part about recieving threats or personal attack pms doesn't shock me that much given that i've had a few myself in past games. Thats just internet tough guy syndrom , Nobody is ever safe from it.
Cellar Dwellers these days are just so quick to scream " Troll "
Because it was deleted. Every attempt to talk about the game in any negative light or constructive criticism is immediately deleted and the users are suspended or banned. Its amazes me how people have dealt with it so long, thank GOD the darkfall forum mods have no real power in DF. I've emailed AV directly multiple times and sent a complaint to the BBB since AV refuses to act on their own maybe they will respond to outside pressure.
It also goes beyond censorship, I and others have actually been personally attacked by AV's forum mods via PM's and emails including one instance of a real life threat from one of the "lead moderators". Since I believe posting them here would be against the ToS, if anyone wants a copy PM me. I've sent them to AV and local police (i know, lol, it wont do anything since they reside in EU), because I want it legally documentated incase a full case has to be filled in the future.
This is just a basic warning to anyone who uses DF Forums, be ready for angry hate tells from AV staff if you disagree with anything they say or do.
The mods here should delete your post because obviously you have never posted on forumfall. I've been posting on forumfall for over a decade and they never ever take down anything said negatively about the game.
The one thing they do delete is reposting the same issue over and over. If there's a thread for it than post in that thread. If you're too stupid to find a thread with your concerns then perhaps you shouldn't be posting at all.
Just want you all to know, I contacted CNN about this! If the FBI won't do anything, we'll take it to the court of public opinion! They assured me they would devote a special 2 hour segment to this fiasco.
You all may be contacted for live interviews. Don't worry they will fly you out.
This post got deleted and the user got infractions :
"Why they would want to scare peeps off by releasing more in game footage ?
They better hide the state till many pay for it ...profit."
for all those who claim OP lies etc.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Because it was deleted. Every attempt to talk about the game in any negative light or constructive criticism is immediately deleted and the users are suspended or banned. Its amazes me how people have dealt with it so long, thank GOD the darkfall forum mods have no real power in DF. I've emailed AV directly multiple times and sent a complaint to the BBB since AV refuses to act on their own maybe they will respond to outside pressure.
It also goes beyond censorship, I and others have actually been personally attacked by AV's forum mods via PM's and emails including one instance of a real life threat from one of the "lead moderators". Since I believe posting them here would be against the ToS, if anyone wants a copy PM me. I've sent them to AV and local police (i know, lol, it wont do anything since they reside in EU), because I want it legally documentated incase a full case has to be filled in the future.
This is just a basic warning to anyone who uses DF Forums, be ready for angry hate tells from AV staff if you disagree with anything they say or do.
You are kidding right i have taken the piss and at some point complained about most info they have released over the last few months..
not once have i been banned or had a post deleted.. I am pretty happy that i can post about nearly anything within reason on the darkfall forums and not have my post deleted or get warned..
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
This post got deleted and the user got infractions :
"Why they would want to scare peeps off by releasing more in game footage ?
They better hide the state till many pay for it ...profit."
for all those who claim OP lies etc.
Seems like trolling to me, I can see why they might delete it.
(accusing them of hiding the state of the game in order to "fool" people into paying for it.)
If you don't have proof, don't make unfounded accusations.
Plue its not like youre entitled to "free speech" on a forum, try reading the TOS next time
being that sensitive about such a harmless post just shows that the poster was on the right track.
if there was nothing to hide and if they are "generous" over there like so many claim why the harsh reaction ?
it just show a nerve got hit.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
This post got deleted and the user got infractions :
"Why they would want to scare peeps off by releasing more in game footage ?
They better hide the state till many pay for it ...profit."
for all those who claim OP lies etc.
I don't see this as constructive criticism. Here's a rephrased version
"What problems would arise if they release more in game footage?"
/end
You will learn that official forums are not the best place for 'opinion' threads especially if they are negative. If I post this game is great; they ignore it. Nothing needs changed if I post that. However if I post this game is bad and give no reason behind why, the delete it or move it. If I post with a different title that's less offensive than 'this is bad' and leave a nice introduction along with the points I want to make in a non-biased fashion--they flag it and show it to the devs.
Originally posted by Fendel84M
Just want you all to know, I contacted CNN about this! If the FBI won't do anything, we'll take it to the court of public opinion! They assured me they would devote a special 2 hour segment to this fiasco.
You all may be contacted for live interviews. Don't worry they will fly you out.
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haha
"Have you seen this forum moderator?" flyers. Too funny.
"Warning! Forum moderator will be mean to you! Protect your children."
Perhaps you should contact INTERPOL and tell them about the mean nasty mods?
Have you seen this guy?
Wanted for :
12 counts of murder in the first degree
14 counts of armed theft of Federation property
22 counts of piracy in high space
18 counts of fraud
37 counts of .....
Abusive tyrannical Moderators do not try to censor negative posters by threatening them in pms or emails -they just ban or suspend. Their problem solved.
From this and the flood of posters describing just the opposite of what you described, Im calling this a failed attempt to fling poo.
I haven't heard of anythign like this. I have read plenty of really negative posts and haven't seen on post closed/deleted unless it was already being discussed or postings a way to cheat.
May I ask which mod or mods did this?
This is an out right lie.
I don't understand why, it wasn't that bad.
What a load of BS. If anything, Darkfall forums can be accused for a complete lack of moderation.
Here's an example, this is my post, in a thread started by AV staff, so it's not some obscure thread that they don't read, these are DIRECT responses to AV employees.
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=330069&page=8&p=5571238
(I'm actually afraid I will get infraction here on MMORPG just for quoting these)
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=329629&page=3&p=5569501
no infraction, no post deletion. What do you know. If you were on Darkfall forums, this would be the section of the post where I call you number of "x"-words and point out your shortcomings IRL.
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I posted a thread that got deleted. IT had no foul language in it. It basically just said I wish there was a stomp animation or they change the name... and the explosive arrow should be a fire explosion, not green gas.
THE THREAD WAS TAME...
But it got deleted.
Maybe they just had system issues or something and it got lost.
I DON'T KNOW.
But I made a thread, and it is no longer there, which is odd considering the vulgar language used in every other thread.
Ah, well that explains it. Because there are 10+ threads on that already. You could have posted it in one of those.
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I just did?
I'm not the OP.
I've actually seen a few threads deleted off of their forums for random stuff, Not all of it was even that negative or offensive .. It just has to offend the right person and its gone. even the part about recieving threats or personal attack pms doesn't shock me that much given that i've had a few myself in past games. Thats just internet tough guy syndrom , Nobody is ever safe from it.
Cellar Dwellers these days are just so quick to scream " Troll "
The mods here should delete your post because obviously you have never posted on forumfall. I've been posting on forumfall for over a decade and they never ever take down anything said negatively about the game.
The one thing they do delete is reposting the same issue over and over. If there's a thread for it than post in that thread. If you're too stupid to find a thread with your concerns then perhaps you shouldn't be posting at all.
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Assist
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Your feelings got hurt or something?
thread is a lie.
mods att forumfall allow alot more than they do here for example.
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I have nothing clever to say.
Just want you all to know, I contacted CNN about this! If the FBI won't do anything, we'll take it to the court of public opinion! They assured me they would devote a special 2 hour segment to this fiasco.
You all may be contacted for live interviews. Don't worry they will fly you out.
This post got deleted and the user got infractions :
for all those who claim OP lies etc.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
You are kidding right i have taken the piss and at some point complained about most info they have released over the last few months..
not once have i been banned or had a post deleted.. I am pretty happy that i can post about nearly anything within reason on the darkfall forums and not have my post deleted or get warned..
I can only think that you stepped over the line..
Seems like trolling to me, I can see why they might delete it.
(accusing them of hiding the state of the game in order to "fool" people into paying for it.)
If you don't have proof, don't make unfounded accusations.
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
being that sensitive about such a harmless post just shows that the poster was on the right track.
if there was nothing to hide and if they are "generous" over there like so many claim why the harsh reaction ?
it just show a nerve got hit.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
I don't see this as constructive criticism. Here's a rephrased version
"What problems would arise if they release more in game footage?"
/end
You will learn that official forums are not the best place for 'opinion' threads especially if they are negative. If I post this game is great; they ignore it. Nothing needs changed if I post that. However if I post this game is bad and give no reason behind why, the delete it or move it. If I post with a different title that's less offensive than 'this is bad' and leave a nice introduction along with the points I want to make in a non-biased fashion--they flag it and show it to the devs.
Oh--it's that kind of thread. Okay, I'll bow out.
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Doubt you'll get him to post his forum name/ingame name.
What happens when you log off your characters????.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFQhfhnjYMk
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That post is clearly inflammatory
The only thing it shows is inablitity to post without sounding like a troll. Perhaps its a language issue?