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Neverwinter: The Control Wizard

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  • DavisFlightDavisFlight Talahasee, FLPosts: 2,556Member

    I hate how I can't even tell what a game means when it claims to be an MMO anymore... the new Marvel game coming out I've heard that it both is, and isn't, an MMO.

     

    Is this game an MMO? A real MMO, not like, World of Tanks or SWTOR, but an actual MMO?

  • Methos12Methos12 Maladis 46Posts: 1,234Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by DavisFlight

    I hate how I can't even tell what a game means when it claims to be an MMO anymore... the new Marvel game coming out I've heard that it both is, and isn't, an MMO.

     

    Is this game an MMO? A real MMO, not like, World of Tanks or SWTOR, but an actual MMO?

    When Perfect World took over Cryptic they delayed the game and went from DDO-style approach to a proper MMO.

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  • Nemesis7884Nemesis7884 ZurichPosts: 880Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Vesavius

    So far this is looking a lot less appealling than TES to me... and that isn't actually sweeping me away either right now.

    The more of 'the future' I see the more I need FFXIV to actually work out tbh :/

    you mean regarding all the great gameply weve seen from teso so far?

  • KalafaxKalafax Gainesville, FLPosts: 522Member Uncommon
    While I hate the D&D 4.0 system compared to any of the previous D&D editions, I will keep my eye on this one and try to hold out some hope.

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  • ABRaquelABRaquel Minneapolis, MNPosts: 541Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Rimmersman

    I don't care what rule, it's looking very good indeed.

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pn7iU4EwTc

    Thank you for the link, that was actually a pretty good video.

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  • GolbezTheLionGolbezTheLion Los Angeles, CAPosts: 336Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Ozmodan

    What has happened to the old D&D names? Ok so some fruitcake at Wizards of the Coast came up with it, does not make the name any better.  Until I see how they are going to monitize this game I will relegate to the typical PW game and to avoid at all costs.

    There are some casters in DAoC that have more control in their pinky finger.

    You need to stop living in the past, times change.

  • shantidevashantideva bongholmPosts: 186Member
    Originally posted by Ozmodan
    Originally posted by Vannor
    Originally posted by Ozmodan
    Control Wizard?  Geez get someone with at least a little bit of imagination on your staff.  What a terrible name.  Is this an example of what the entire game is going to be about?  The more I read about this game the less I like.  

    What on earth are you going on about? The control wizard is a build option from the D&D 4.0 rulebook. The 'staff' have no control over the names given to classes because it's D&D and Wizards of the Coast that control that.

    What has happened to the old D&D names? Ok so some fruitcake at Wizards of the Coast came up with it, does not make the name any better.  Until I see how they are going to monitize this game I will relegate to the typical PW game and to avoid at all costs.

    There are some casters in DAoC that have more control in their pinky finger.

    Agree with you Oz, WotC are to D&D what Disney will be to SW..(yes George is a pusbag but 2 wrongs don't make 1 right)

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  • VirgoThreeVirgoThree Tarzana, CAPosts: 1,220Member
    Can't wait for this to come out. I've been waiting and waiting for a 4th edition based game. The more I play Pathfinder the more I wish I was playing 4th ed pnp. I used to play 3.5 a lot but dropped it for 4th in a heartbeat, but my current friends only play Pathfinder :(
  • k44mosk44mos BucharestPosts: 22Member

     I don't get why you are so upset with the devs at this particular moment in time.

     

     From what I was able to see in the vids so far, the combat will be fairly decent. Let's hope we get a decent gear system and it will be peachy.

     As I have given a chance to all the greedy sobs (yes EA, I'm looking at you), I'm giving a chance to this one too and, tbh, I can't wait for it to hit beta.

  • VannorVannor YorkshirePosts: 2,970Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by adam_nox
    Originally posted by Vannor
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Vannor
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Rimmersman
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    looks pretty good... any news on the beta? I pre-ordered TL2 pretty much just to get into NW beta but no word yet...

    Glad i pre-ordered Torchlight 2, it gave me a beta key to Neverwinter.

    Anyway Beta could start the end of Fall

    did you actually get a key? i just got a notice saying beta was coming soon but that was over a month ago

    I got a key for neverwinter with TL2. You need to contact PW support if you didn't get yours. Lots of people didn't get them by mistake.

    i did they told me i would get a key closer to beta.. hmm ill try again

    Even after applying the key you still have to wait for an invite.. and when you get invited isn't guaranteed anyway. The key doesn't mean you will get invited at the start of closed beta, just that you will get in the closed beta eventually (could be 2 days before closed ends, who knows?). It was a bit of a ripoff deal really.

    No, the key gets you in, but only once it starts.

    You should have read the fine print. I stand by what I said.

  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by Rimmersman
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Rimmersman
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    looks pretty good... any news on the beta? I pre-ordered TL2 pretty much just to get into NW beta but no word yet...

    Glad i pre-ordered Torchlight 2, it gave me a beta key to Neverwinter.

    Anyway Beta could start the end of Fall

    did you actually get a key? i just got a notice saying beta was coming soon but that was over a month ago

    Yes i entered it into the site and status is accepted, the beta sign changed to download  but you can't because it's greyed out.

    http://nw.perfectworld.com/download

    i just got an email back from them

    Hello 

    Your Neverwinter closed beta key will be sent out to your account's registered email address closer to Neverwinter's closed beta date, which is currently scheduled sometime early 2013. Please keep an eye on Neverwinter's news blog, linked below:

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  • OzmodanOzmodan Hilliard, OHPosts: 7,193Member Uncommon

    Many of you need to get your head on straight.  Number one, this game is being made by Cryptic to start with, name me one game they have made that is decent, oops, right, not one.  Secondly Cryptic is owned by PW which loves item shops where you have to gamble for powerups(ie, basically a game of chance).  Thirdly, this game with be f2p, hence an active item shop.  

    Getting your hopes up for this game is not a good idea.  Better to be pleasently surprised if they actually make a playable game, than thinking this will be the next best thing.   Personally, I think there are a lot better games coming down the pike than this one.

  • MumboJumboMumboJumbo LondonPosts: 3,221Member
    Idk about the "instructor" voice: Sounds like doing an earthquake drill? Aside from that minor impression, game looks fairly playable.
  • AranisusAranisus BytomPosts: 30Member
    Hmm... look's like playing wizard in party will be really borring - left mouse button and afk.
  • b003b003 detroit, MIPosts: 51Member Uncommon
    Looks better than I thought.
  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,223Member Uncommon

    That looks interesting.  I love cc classes.  I hope there are useful summons for a wizard.  I would love to replicate the LotRO lore-master in D&D.

    Bah, I hope my download link unlocks soon.  I've been good and forgot about it and now I just had to check again.

  • VorthanionVorthanion Laguna Vista, TXPosts: 2,122Member Uncommon
    An area attack that punches icicles from the ground up and they call it Ice Storm?  Gotta say, that's the first time I've ever seen the term storm applied to something that has no atmospheric origin.  I also agree with Ozmodan, the nomenclature for the classes sound childish at best.

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  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,223Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Vorthanion
    An area attack that punches icicles from the ground up and they call it Ice Storm?  Gotta say, that's the first time I've ever seen the term storm applied to something that has no atmospheric origin.  I also agree with Ozmodan, the nomenclature for the classes sound childish at best.

    Are you beinig a bit nitpicky cranky?  Early D&D and AD&D had really simplistic class names as well.  Fighter, Cleric, Thief, Ranger, Druid.  They made fluffier names for later editions.  Were you looking for fluffy?  How is Control Wizard childish?  A bit mundane possibly, but childish?  It's not like you proably can't make up your own name for your style.  I did that for my RIFT builds.

  • an0maly33an0maly33 Creedmoor, NCPosts: 42Member
    Originally posted by Ozmodan

    Many of you need to get your head on straight.  Number one, this game is being made by Cryptic to start with, name me one game they have made that is decent, oops, right, not one.  Secondly Cryptic is owned by PW which loves item shops where you have to gamble for powerups(ie, basically a game of chance).  Thirdly, this game with be f2p, hence an active item shop.  

    Getting your hopes up for this game is not a good idea.  Better to be pleasently surprised if they actually make a playable game, than thinking this will be the next best thing.   Personally, I think there are a lot better games coming down the pike than this one.

    Actually, I'm one of the guys that actually likes STO.  I also have dabbled in Champions and don't really see a big problem with it.  Maybe they didn't live up to expectations at launch, but as for STO, it's actually an enjoyable game.  The cash shop isn't pay to win at all.  There's nothing in there that's game breaking.  The only thing that they do that could be considered a money sink is selling keys to open "mystery box" loot drops.  But, for being F2P I don't think that's outside the realm of acceptable.  From my perspective, it's you who needs to get your head on straight.  From my perspective Cryptic games aren't the garbage trolls make them out to be and PW didn't ruin anything when they bought Cryptic.  If anything, they gave them the cash for dev time they needed to start getting things right.

     
  • BloodyVikingBloodyViking TrondheimPosts: 132Member

    As suspected this game looks like a piece of crap in fine wrapping.

    Much like the last "class" video this looks like garbage. Looks like a console crossover mulitplayer rpg and not like an MMO.

    "Control Wizard" in D&D terms is ridiculous if it is a fixed class. Part of the charm of a wizard is that you could customize the playstyle as you wanted. If you wanted to be a "control" wizard you simply picked spells suitable for that purpose.

    Neverwinter is looking more and more like garbage and I see less and less reason to even try it out.

    I've been playing D&D pen and paper since the late 80s, and also Dungeons & Dragons Online for quite some time just to give some background to my judgement of this game.

     

    To me, this game embodies much of what is wrong with the MMO genre the last 8 years.

  • BloodyVikingBloodyViking TrondheimPosts: 132Member
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by Vorthanion
    An area attack that punches icicles from the ground up and they call it Ice Storm?  Gotta say, that's the first time I've ever seen the term storm applied to something that has no atmospheric origin.  I also agree with Ozmodan, the nomenclature for the classes sound childish at best.

    Are you beinig a bit nitpicky cranky?  Early D&D and AD&D had really simplistic class names as well.  Fighter, Cleric, Thief, Ranger, Druid.  They made fluffier names for later editions.  Were you looking for fluffy?  How is Control Wizard childish?  A bit mundane possibly, but childish?  It's not like you proably can't make up your own name for your style.  I did that for my RIFT builds.

    Are you trying to be funny? While the class names in old AD&D may sound simplistic they carry a lot more versatility then what this game is showing.

  • VolenibbletsVolenibblets London, LAPosts: 212Member Uncommon

    Anyone got any insider tips on how many classes there's going to be and what they are yet?

    There's at least one cleric class (as indicated by the pokket interview) other than that the slate appears blank.  

  • VolenibbletsVolenibblets London, LAPosts: 212Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Aranisus
    Hmm... look's like playing wizard in party will be really borring - left mouse button and afk.

    Nah no matter what the class it'll be a very mobile game. Ala GW2 if you stand still for too long and don't use your dodge or utility skills you get minced. Other than that, yes, it may just well be. 

  • dukemagusdukemagus GravataPosts: 8Member

    simple and straight to the point. it is something pretty intresting to see every now and then

     

    way better than something like "disciple of the metaspace arcanism" or something like that

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