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Why AV hide DF UW so much ?

DarthRaidenDarthRaiden gdfgfPosts: 4,333Member

Few weeks left till DF UW.

So far some pictures, a short gameplay vid and no beta.

Is it they don't  want to scare peeps off by releasing more in game footage ?

The idea is simple, they better hide the state of DF UW till many pay for it ...profit.

I wouldn't buy / resub till people who played it give reviews / post videos.

 

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  • HancakesHancakes flint, MIPosts: 1,045Member
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden

    Few weeks left till DF UW.

    So far some pictures, a short gameplay vid and no beta.

    Is it they don't  want to scare peeps off by releasing more in game footage ?

    The idea is simple, they better hide the state of DF UW till many pay for it ...profit.

    I wouldn't buy / resub till people who played it give reviews / post videos.

     

    Yawn... I think many of the 150000+  from DF1 will try it at the cost of one months subsciption.  Anyway, they will easily have enough people to choke the two servers as is.

     

    WTF are you talking about no beta? I assure you theyve had a beta for UW. image

  • GinazGinaz Calgary, ABPosts: 1,731Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Hancakes
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden

    Few weeks left till DF UW.

    So far some pictures, a short gameplay vid and no beta.

    Is it they don't  want to scare peeps off by releasing more in game footage ?

    The idea is simple, they better hide the state of DF UW till many pay for it ...profit.

    I wouldn't buy / resub till people who played it give reviews / post videos.

     

    Yawn... I think many of the 150000+  from DF1 will try it at the cost of one months subsciption.  Anyway, they will easily have enough people to choke the two servers as is.

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  • zymurgeistzymurgeist Pittsville, VAPosts: 5,215Member Uncommon
    So they don't get crucified before the game even launches. They're dealing with a hostile environment to say the least.

    "Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause" ~Victor Hugo

  • HancakesHancakes flint, MIPosts: 1,045Member
    Originally posted by Ginaz
    Originally posted by Hancakes
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden

    Few weeks left till DF UW.

    So far some pictures, a short gameplay vid and no beta.

    Is it they don't  want to scare peeps off by releasing more in game footage ?

    The idea is simple, they better hide the state of DF UW till many pay for it ...profit.

    I wouldn't buy / resub till people who played it give reviews / post videos.

     

    Yawn... I think many of the 150000+  from DF1 will try it at the cost of one months subsciption.  Anyway, they will easily have enough people to choke the two servers as is.

    Whaaaat?image

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  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden gdfgfPosts: 4,333Member
    Originally posted by Hancakes
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden

    Few weeks left till DF UW.

    So far some pictures, a short gameplay vid and no beta.

    Is it they don't  want to scare peeps off by releasing more in game footage ?

    The idea is simple, they better hide the state of DF UW till many pay for it ...profit.

    I wouldn't buy / resub till people who played it give reviews / post videos.

     

    Yawn... I think many of the 150000+  from DF1 will try it at the cost of one months subsciption.  Anyway, they will easily have enough people to choke the two servers as is.

    My point is just that exactly,   they don't risk to show anything to to the public  to at least grab one months sub from everyone who tried DF1.

    Showing material is always a risk, many will probably find out that the game dodnt change that much and many will find that the reason they left is still not fixed, at least that is the risk.

    Is there any other explanation, why no beta and not much of  gameplay info ?

    and No there wasn't a public beta or they lied cause all they said is "is being tested inhouse" and thats not a public beta.

     

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    -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!

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  • jdlamson75jdlamson75 Jacksonville, FLPosts: 985Member Uncommon
    The initial launch of DF had only one server, and was quite packed.  AV seemingly isn't into making Darkfall WoW-size, and are probably content with the returning crowd (plus a few interested stragglers) at first. 
  • HancakesHancakes flint, MIPosts: 1,045Member
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden
    Originally posted by Hancakes
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden

    Few weeks left till DF UW.

    So far some pictures, a short gameplay vid and no beta.

    Is it they don't  want to scare peeps off by releasing more in game footage ?

    The idea is simple, they better hide the state of DF UW till many pay for it ...profit.

    I wouldn't buy / resub till people who played it give reviews / post videos.

     

    Yawn... I think many of the 150000+  from DF1 will try it at the cost of one months subsciption.  Anyway, they will easily have enough people to choke the two servers as is.

    My point is just that exactly,   they don't risk to show anything to to the public  to at least grab one months sub from everyone who tried DF1.

    Showing material is always a risk, many will probably find out that the game dodnt change that much and many will find that the reason they left is still not fixed, at least that is the risk.

    Is there any other explanation, why no beta and not much of  gameplay info ?

    and No there wasn't a public beta. 

     

    Then dont play

     

    You are wrong concerning the beta. (among other things)

  • HancakesHancakes flint, MIPosts: 1,045Member
    Originally posted by jdlamson75
    The initial launch of DF had only one server, and was quite packed.  AV seemingly isn't into making Darkfall WoW-size, and are probably content with the returning crowd (plus a few interested stragglers) at first. 

    Exactly

     

     

    Theres enough hype with them doing nothing and they dont want to repeat the same mistakes from DF1s launch.  I'm sure there will be a lengthy delay before they even start selling the game again, people waited weeks the first time around.

  • FluteFlute WellingtonPosts: 434Member
    Originally posted by Hancakes
    Originally posted by jdlamson75
    The initial launch of DF had only one server, and was quite packed.  AV seemingly isn't into making Darkfall WoW-size, and are probably content with the returning crowd (plus a few interested stragglers) at first. 

    Exactly

     

     

    Theres enough hype with them doing nothing and they dont want to repeat the same mistakes from DF1s launch.  I'm sure there will be a lengthy delay before they even start selling the game again, people waited weeks the first time around.

     Guys, guys.

     

    It's Aventurine.  There is no clever plan.

     

    Will it be brilliant or will it be awful?  Who cares, it won't be WoW and it will only cost returning players $10 to have fun either playing the wonderful new game or playing the "slay the evil game" metagame.  Either way, cheaper than a night at the movies and almost guaranteed to be memorable. 

  • RaxeonRaxeon cedar falls, IAPosts: 2,090Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Flute
    Originally posted by Hancakes
    Originally posted by jdlamson75
    The initial launch of DF had only one server, and was quite packed.  AV seemingly isn't into making Darkfall WoW-size, and are probably content with the returning crowd (plus a few interested stragglers) at first. 

    Exactly

     

     

    Theres enough hype with them doing nothing and they dont want to repeat the same mistakes from DF1s launch.  I'm sure there will be a lengthy delay before they even start selling the game again, people waited weeks the first time around.

     Guys, guys.

     

    It's Aventurine.  There is no clever plan.

     

    Will it be brilliant or will it be awful?  Who cares, it won't be WoW and it will only cost returning players $10 to have fun either playing the wonderful new game or playing the "slay the evil game" metagame.  Either way, cheaper than a night at the movies and almost guaranteed to be memorable. 

     

    they havent said how much the sub fee will be for uw i would think the 15 again

  • tom_goretom_gore TamperePosts: 1,796Member Uncommon

    It's because UW is the same game as DF is today. With the same problems, with the same butt-ugly animations and with the same horrible UI.

  • RaxeonRaxeon cedar falls, IAPosts: 2,090Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by tom_gore

    It's because UW is the same game as DF is today. With the same problems, with the same butt-ugly animations and with the same horrible UI.

    HAHAHAHAHAHA no alot is the same but them things no it might have a few problems fromt he frist 1 but most of them should be ALOT better

  • kaiser3282kaiser3282 Phoenix, AZPosts: 2,660Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by tom_gore

    It's because UW is the same game as DF is today. With the same problems, with the same butt-ugly animations and with the same horrible UI.

    So..... youre basing this on the fact that you know absolutely nothing whatsoever? Even a complete simpleton can see the UI is very different from the few screens and videos shown.

    - New UI

    - Role system

    - removal of rays

    - new skills / spells

    - changes to alignment system

    - entire world overhauled

    - improved graphics

    - reduced grind

    - improved siege system

    - enhancements to customizing bases / holdings

    - various changes to crafting

    - momentum system

    - crosshair wobble

    - removal of surging

    - changes to attacking in NPC cities

    - new mount possession  / theft system

    - fall damage implementation to prevent / reduce bunny hopping

    I could go on, but yes. Clearly youre correct. The game is EXACTLY the same......

  • SysFailSysFail LondonPosts: 375Member
    Originally posted by Hancakes

    Anyway, they will easily have enough people to choke the two servers as is.

    I wouldn't be too sure about that.

     

  • bunnyhopperbunnyhopper LondonPosts: 2,751Member
    Originally posted by tom_gore

    It's because UW is the same game as DF is today. With the same problems, with the same butt-ugly animations and with the same horrible UI.

    wait wut....

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  • AquitisAquitis Mesa, AZPosts: 24Member
    I wouldn't bet against Advertine.  They have a habbit of providing no information then delivering on their promises. 
  • wrekognizewrekognize salt lake city, UTPosts: 384Member

    The less people who play DFUW when it launches the better for AV. It will go smoother.

     

    Heavily promote the game after it's released.

     

     

    ...

  • YamotaYamota LondonPosts: 6,620Member
    Originally posted by tom_gore

    It's because UW is the same game as DF is today. With the same problems, with the same butt-ugly animations and with the same horrible UI.

    This is what I suspect and unless I get some proof showing otherwise, they are not getting a cent from me.

  • YamotaYamota LondonPosts: 6,620Member
    Originally posted by kaiser3282
    Originally posted by tom_gore

    It's because UW is the same game as DF is today. With the same problems, with the same butt-ugly animations and with the same horrible UI.

    So..... youre basing this on the fact that you know absolutely nothing whatsoever? Even a complete simpleton can see the UI is very different from the few screens and videos shown.

    - New UI

    - Role system

    - removal of rays

    - new skills / spells

    - changes to alignment system

    - entire world overhauled

    - improved graphics

    - reduced grind

    - improved siege system

    - enhancements to customizing bases / holdings

    - various changes to crafting

    - momentum system

    - crosshair wobble

    - removal of surging

    - changes to attacking in NPC cities

    - new mount possession  / theft system

    - fall damage implementation to prevent / reduce bunny hopping

    I could go on, but yes. Clearly youre correct. The game is EXACTLY the same......

    Screenshots/vids or it didnt happen. The one's I have seen shows no UI and only marginally better looking gfx/animations.

  • tom_goretom_gore TamperePosts: 1,796Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by kaiser3282
    Originally posted by tom_gore

    It's because UW is the same game as DF is today. With the same problems, with the same butt-ugly animations and with the same horrible UI.

    So..... youre basing this on the fact that you know absolutely nothing whatsoever? Even a complete simpleton can see the UI is very different from the few screens and videos shown.

    - New UI

    - Role system

    - removal of rays

    - new skills / spells

    - changes to alignment system

    - entire world overhauled

    - improved graphics

    - reduced grind

    - improved siege system

    - enhancements to customizing bases / holdings

    - various changes to crafting

    - momentum system

    - crosshair wobble

    - removal of surging

    - changes to attacking in NPC cities

    - new mount possession  / theft system

    - fall damage implementation to prevent / reduce bunny hopping

    I could go on, but yes. Clearly youre correct. The game is EXACTLY the same......

     

    So it will have a new horrible UI and a lot of changes that they could have done in the original game, yet they chose to launch a completely new title?

    I see you have bought 100% into what AV is telling you. Me... well I've learned the hard way and am waiting until the game is out and I can see what's it worth from a more reliable source than Tasos.

     

  • RoxtarrRoxtarr Freeland, MI, MIPosts: 1,122Member
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden

    Few weeks left till DF UW.

    So far some pictures, a short gameplay vid and no beta.

    Is it they don't  want to scare peeps off by releasing more in game footage ?

    The idea is simple, they better hide the state of DF UW till many pay for it ...profit.

    I wouldn't buy / resub till people who played it give reviews / post videos.

     

    Silly. The game isn't ready.  I've seen this gamer bait and switch before: 

    GAMER: OMG U taking too long, open the beta nao!

    DEV: Ok, here's the game - keep in mind it's in beta so it's not complete yet.

    GAMER: OMG DIS GAME SO BUGGY, IT SUX. I TOLD U DFUW WOULD FAIL.

    If in 1982 we played with the current mentality, we would have burned down all the pac man games since the red ghost was clearly OP. Instead we just got better at the game.
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  • bunnyhopperbunnyhopper LondonPosts: 2,751Member
    Originally posted by tom_gore
    Originally posted by kaiser3282
    Originally posted by tom_gore

     

     

    So it will have a new horrible UI and a lot of changes that they could have done in the original game, yet they chose to launch a completely new title?

    I see you have bought 100% into what AV is telling you. Me... well I've learned the hard way and am waiting until the game is out and I can see what's it worth from a more reliable source than Tasos.

     

    So you are going to "wait to see" if anything has changed because you have no idea. But in the mean time you are going to slag everything off, from a position of having no idea.

     

    Cool.

    "Come and have a look at what you could have won."

  • tom_goretom_gore TamperePosts: 1,796Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by bunnyhopper

     

    So it will have a new horrible UI and a lot of changes that they could have done in the original game, yet they chose to launch a completely new title?

    I see you have bought 100% into what AV is telling you. Me... well I've learned the hard way and am waiting until the game is out and I can see what's it worth from a more reliable source than Tasos.

     

    So you are going to "wait to see" if anything has changed because you have no idea. But in the mean time you are going to slag everything off, from a position of having no idea.

     

    Cool.

    You can try this approach yourself.

    Place an opened milk bottle in the fridge so it falls off when the door is opened. Close the door, wait for your gf/spouse/wife to open it and watch the drama to unfold.

    Do it again the next day and the day after that. Eventually your gf/spouse/wife will learn that if she opens the fridge casually she's going to get the milk bottle fall over on her and open the door more carefully.

     

    I've opened this fridge enough times to learn to be cautious.

     

  • OnigodOnigod Noord-HollandPosts: 688Member

    Knowing AV expect everything to be out in the open a couple of days before launch.

    If you are waiting for revieuws you wont be playing this game. Darkfall is a different game for a different crowd then any other mmorpg on this website.  Knowing this forum there will be horrible revieuws about the game because someone lost their gear and starts to be mad and feel like bashing the game to the ground.  These *rather stupid* players had no idea what game they were buying.

     

  • YamotaYamota LondonPosts: 6,620Member
    Originally posted by bunnyhopper
    Originally posted by tom_gore
    Originally posted by kaiser3282
    Originally posted by tom_gore

     

     

    So it will have a new horrible UI and a lot of changes that they could have done in the original game, yet they chose to launch a completely new title?

    I see you have bought 100% into what AV is telling you. Me... well I've learned the hard way and am waiting until the game is out and I can see what's it worth from a more reliable source than Tasos.

     

    So you are going to "wait to see" if anything has changed because you have no idea. But in the mean time you are going to slag everything off, from a position of having no idea.

     

    Cool.

    Yes, based on Aventurine's past where DF was promised to have all kinds of features yet it went to launch, with a sliver of those features, and full of bugs, ugly UI and both ugly and poor performing GFX.

    So it is just common sense that anything else they do after that be met with a healthy degree of scepticism and for me that means they need to show me actual game play footage before I believe anything they say.

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