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Smedley: "EverQuest Next will be the world's largest sandbox-style MMO ever made"
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I will
A) probably play it, it would be the first EQ game I would enjoy
C) enjoy the irony that the founder of the themepark emerged as the saviour of sandbox
D) enjoy the irony that in just about every mmo I have betaed you got all these ex EQ players trying to make the game into a super grindy raid progression themepark with 0 pvp, then a new EQ comes along and does the opposite of what they try and make choose other mmos into.
Nah, as much as i like Pre- Luclin, i actually loved that expansion. My best and fondest memories come from my Val Shir beasty and Luclin. I'm hoping that Luclin has been remade the great city of Shar Vahl is shining in all it's glory.
I'm hoping that my first ever character in EQ is rerurned to it's original form..ie the Erudites. What SOE were thinking when they turned those regal black skinned masters of magic into alien freaks i will never know.
From this
to this wtf
Your dreaming if you think SOE and Smed would ever lose the feeling EQ and what made EQ the game it was.
EQ still has a vast following, it will be like coming home but coming home modern nday.
It will be a raid grinder with a few sandbox elements, anything else would be commercial suicide.
Don't forget features like lightstones or not being able to see shit on the darkside of Luclin unless you had a see in the dark slill or buff.
Imagine players in GW2 going into an zone and their screen being totally black, the crying would be heard across the interwebs.
they did say it would have raids but not rinse and repeat tier 800 gameplay.
"What we want is a dynamic world that gives all those other possibilities and doesn't just say OK, go to raid X with group composition of X, Y, Z, and kill the dragon for the 52nd time to get the tier 800 gear. It's this rinse-and-repeat gameplay that's got to change, and so we're changing it." smed
so what i get out of that is that there will be raids, but they will not be a mechanism of gear progression as in past games. If i had to place a bet i would say that raids will not be static and will be random. Cazic Thule might attack your city, and not wait for you to attack him.
Thats a lot of conjecture from that one sentence.
Mm. That's a shame. Back into my hole I go [Logs into EVE].
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not really. the key words are "rinse and repeat". The only way to actually get around rinse and repeat is to not make anything in the world static, which means that the chances of you scheduling raid x with xyz for epix9000 just went down dramatically.
I sure hope Smed doesn't try to do a sandbox EQ using Vanguard options or similar..
I personally would just enjoy an enhanced retooling of the orinal EQ.. If anything I would use some of the newer concepts that GW2 has been using such as dynamic events.. I love the escort type events, and the random spawned attacks and take overs.. One thing I would NOT carry over into EQ Next is the "heart" events.. Those are nothing more then breadcrumb trail questing that I avoid.. I want EQ Next to be about exploration and discovery.. I don't want the game to SHOW you were to go for better experience, but for you to find it on your own, or ask the community.. I further love scaling events.. Rather you are a solo player or teaming up in a group, I want people to work together when the situation allows.. I also like that some events are just group manditory and not soloable..
I don't want EQ Next to be a pure sandbox, but I do want it to be a sandbox hybrid favoring freedom, not hand holding themepark.. I would like to see LESS loot gear chasing, and more resourse crafing loot..
Or they could go the route of Warhammer Online and players drop loot and cash like mobs do, with no loss to the player who gets killed. I found it a win / win, especially as someone who isn't a hardcore fan of PvP.
I think all the information we have at hand points to a healthy combo of sandbox and a original EQ-style themepark experience
I am not understanding why raids automatically make a game themepark.
How is "kill 1 easy gnoll by yourself" a "sandbox experience" while "kill 5 really difficult gnoll with 25 friends" a "themepark experience".
The difficulty of encounters and group size required to defeat them have nothing to do with making a game sandbox. If you get a raid of 25 players to kill a giant alien ship for phat lewt in EVE, it doesn't suddenly become a themepark game. If you get 25 players to kill a krayt dragon for phat lewt in SWG, it doesn't suddenly become a themepark game.
You can have a perfectly good sandbox game that still embraces many of popular playstyles and activities. As a matter of fact, the more different playstyles and activities you have in the game, the bigger the potential for emergent gameplay that comes from these preset activities interacting with each other.
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The semantics of the underlined part.
So EVE isn't a sandbox either then, since you progress and make larger ships and upgrade your ship in predefined stages.
Which game is a sandbox that doesn't have progression, name one.
Emphasis on 'End Game'
EVE has endgame too, what's your point.
Your definition of endgame is highly debatable.
What do you consider to be the 'endgame' of EVE?
Just like every other game, when the content and challenge runs out.
Which, in a true sandbox, never happens. Sandboxes contain player created content. Player created content never runs out.
Then EQ is a sandbox too, because you can keep gathering AA points, point rewards and expendables until eternity. What's so special about that.
That would depend entirely on the opinions of the playerbase, whether or not they consider it content.
Addendum Edit: That's the problem with our terms. They rely heavily on opinion, which varies too greatly, yet many of us clutch these varied definitions as fact.