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Too many MMOs with holiday events?

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  • SimphanaticSimphanatic Marion, IAPosts: 92Member
    Originally posted by aphydork

    Because everyone that doesn't think or believe the same way you do is dumb.

    And by you, I mean me. Or, well, I. But still me.

    A pack of wolves will kill a dog, not because they see the dog as food; rather, it's their nature to eliminate those they perceive as weak.

     

    I agree with you, unfortunately we don't stop at merely adjudicating someone as "dumb." Somewhere in our primordial depths, we also view those different than us, or with beliefs different than ours, as a threat. Given the means to "cull them from the pack" we will do so; indeed, have done so throughout History, usually under cover of religious belief.

  • MindTriggerMindTrigger La Quinta, CAPosts: 2,596Member
    Originally posted by Simphanatic
    Originally posted by aphydork

    Because everyone that doesn't think or believe the same way you do is dumb.

    And by you, I mean me. Or, well, I. But still me.

    A pack of wolves will kill a dog, not because they see the dog as food; rather, it's their nature to eliminate those they perceive as weak.

    I agree with you, unfortunately we don't stop at merely adjudicating someone as "dumb." Somewhere in our primordial depths, we also view those different than us, or with beliefs different than ours, as a threat. Given the means to "cull them from the pack" we will do so; indeed, have done so throughout History, usually under cover of religious belief.

    Human's have the ability for rational thinking, empathy, humility, tolerance, etc.   We are not wolves, though some people seem to have only one foot out of the cave, intellectually.

    A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.

  • SimphanaticSimphanatic Marion, IAPosts: 92Member
    Originally posted by MindTrigger

    Human's have the potential for rational thinking, empathy, humility, tolerance, etc.   We are not wolves, though some people seem to have only one foot out of the cave, intellectually.

    With the minor change, I can agree with you completely. The debate is when and how much that potential is exercised in the broadest sense. I identify with an Existentialist philosophy more than not, but man alone in the wilderness is notional only.

  • theAsnatheAsna AsnatownPosts: 321Member
    Originally posted by TheAncient

    There has been an awful trend of including holiday events in MMORPGs of late. I can see why some people might love them, but not everyone is into events which essentially are immersion breakers.

    I'm an athiest, a middle aged athiest at that, so the idea of a heavily commercialised Christian or Pagan events changing what is meant to be escapist fun is not only anathema but downright intrusive. Celebrating Independance Day or Thanksgiving simply has no meaning where I live and has no relevance to the games either.

    Why can we not have MMORPGs with unique holiday events tied to the lore of their particular worlds? That is something I could buy into and enjoy.

     

     

    I don't mind events in-game. What I have issues with is rather that you have a game world (e.g. fantasy themed, science fiction themed, etc.) with its own lore, history and people (NPCs) and then you implant some real world events into it. I'd rather expect the events revolving around in-game aspects (e.g. lore/history/NPCs).

    As an example: take some high fantasy themed MMORPG with a polyteistic background and then have some christmas event or easter event (e.g. easter egg hunt). If the game world resembled more the real world (on the inside as well as the outside) this wouldn't be such an immersion breaker. So I just get the feeling of contemporary humans in funny clothes.

    These kinds of seasonal events can be fun. The first time around. But that's it. Additionally I find myself not playing at these times of the year anyway (call it some kind of evolution) thus I miss them due to the timing (but I don't miss them events ,) ).

  • fenistilfenistil GliwicePosts: 3,005Member
    Yeah, kinda tired of it. Christmas, Halloween, Spring, Automuns, Summer, Winter festivals, etc     feel kinda generic to have holiday, etc events that don't fit games lore all the time.
  • loulakiloulaki PatrasPosts: 918Member
    Originally posted by TheAncient

    There has been an awful trend of including holiday events in MMORPGs of late. I can see why some people might love them, but not everyone is into events which essentially are immersion breakers.

    I'm an athiest, a middle aged athiest at that, so the idea of a heavily commercialised Christian or Pagan events changing what is meant to be escapist fun is not only anathema but downright intrusive. Celebrating Independance Day or Thanksgiving simply has no meaning where I live and has no relevance to the games either.

    Why can we not have MMORPGs with unique holiday events tied to the lore of their particular worlds? That is something I could buy into and enjoy.

     

    hey mr.TheAncient, i dont give a shit too about gods and fantasy stories, just having fun doing something different from the usuall, if something is annoying i just avoid it, but ok i didnt found anything annoying, f.e. i live in Greece and nobody has the mood of Halloween, we have something similar at the end of February but not this kid-based mostly for adults.. but its not bad getting some bonuses or some extra kewl skins ^^

     

    ok Christmas mood is the worst :P

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  • Sora2810Sora2810 New Columbia, PAPosts: 567Member

    I find seasonal events awesome. I love when games do them! You don't have to have a religion to enjoy halloween. In japan, 'christmas' is also celebrated, yet the majority of japanese are buddhists. 

    Played - M59, EQOA, EQ, EQ2, PS, SWG[Favorite], DAoC, UO, RS, MXO, CoH/CoV, TR, FFXI, FoM, WoW, Eve, Rift, SWTOR, TSW.
    Playing - PS2, AoW, GW2

  • aphydorkaphydork Boring, ORPosts: 133Member
    Originally posted by MindTrigger

    Human's have the ability for rational thinking, empathy, humility, tolerance, etc.   We are not wolves, though some people seem to have only one foot out of the cave, intellectually.

    Keywords: have the ability

    As for "we are not wolves?" False.

  • DibdabsDibdabs FelvershamPosts: 2,604Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by TheAncient

    There has been an awful trend of including holiday events in MMORPGs of late. I can see why some people might love them, but not everyone is into events which essentially are immersion breakers.

    I'm an athiest, a middle aged athiest at that, so the idea of a heavily commercialised Christian or Pagan events changing what is meant to be escapist fun is not only anathema but downright intrusive. Celebrating Independance Day or Thanksgiving simply has no meaning where I live and has no relevance to the games either.

    See, I'm an atheist too, probably older than you, and people like you really get on my tits.  If something harmless falls outside my beliefs it doesn't mean it's inherently wrong - it's a big, big world out there, and I live in it.  I think you should stay silent, if the sight of other people enjoying themselves so upsets you, and instead try to grow into a mature, balanced person who demonstrates the admirable attitude of "live and let live."  Your objections to other people's fun are petty.

    Thanksgiving means nothing to me, but it doesn't kill me to enjoy the enjoyment of others.  Christmas, Eid, Passover - it's all the same to me... it's just people from another culture sharing a happy time at the same time I happen to be around.  Obviously you hate that, since it's "anathema" to you (ironic, since that's religious terminology) but it does you no harm to go along with it.  Stop being a misery guts, and act like an adult.  Oh, and it's Atheist, not Athiest - fancy being a proud, middle-aged Atheist all this time and not actually being able to spell it. 

    As for being "shoehorned" into MMOs, so what?  How many other topics have I seen over the years in game chat which have no relevance to the game itself?  Politics, sport, films, music, whatever... Seasonal events are a means of bonding a community through a bit of harmless fun, and if you have an issue with your delicate sense of immersion being broken, log out and don't play for the duration.

  • jayartejayarte LancasterPosts: 450Member
    Originally posted by Vunak23

    People get worked up over the dumbest things.... no wonder this world sucks ass. 

    That's the first time today I've laughed out loud.  Thanks ^^  

     

    p.s.  I'm not being sarcastic, I genuinely found what you said, and the way you said it, hilarious.  Not saying I disagree, either, or at least, not entirely :p

  • dave6660dave6660 New York, NYPosts: 2,543Member Uncommon
    I just wanted to say hello to this thread before it gets locked.

    “There are certain queer times and occasions in this strange mixed affair we call life when a man takes this whole universe for a vast practical joke, though the wit thereof he but dimly discerns, and more than suspects that the joke is at nobody's expense but his own.”
    -- Herman Melville

  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Manchester, NHPosts: 2,926Member Uncommon
    A majority of people play one MMO at a time and so they may be missing out if theirs skips holidays.  I think holiday events are a great idea in all but the most serious of MMOs.
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