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Too many MMOs with holiday events?

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  • tyfontyfon OSLOPosts: 238Member

    I don't really mind it as long as it fits the lore. Pumpkins belong in tsw, but in gw2 or wow it's really stupid to see them.

    I'm an atheist too. Ingame there might be gods, but not outside :)

  • grimm6thgrimm6th Overland Park, KSPosts: 973Member
    Originally posted by Saur0n
    What's funny about atheists is they claim to BELIEVE that there is no higher power.

    fixed for you.  And there probably shouldn't be a debate on religious views on these forums.

    Personally, I love holiday events.  They shake things up a bit, allow the developers to do fun things (like any good event does).  It makes my holidays feel even more special (and amkes me feel less guity that I am playing a game instead of spending all my time with my family).

     

    Finally, a thought on the title of the tread.  Given that most people play a limited number of MMOs at a time, why would it matter that most MMOs seem to have holiday events of some kind?  Maybe what you really want is for MMOs to have fewer holidays that have events...

     

    EDIT:  clearly Tyfon isn't a fan of Mad King Thorn (from Guild Wars)

    I used to TL;DR, but then I took a bullet point to the footnote.

  • gigatgigat Minneapolis, MNPosts: 604Member Uncommon

    I sense a new campaign for separation of Church and Fiction.  Although one could argue that church is fiction, I won't go there.

    I like it when MMOs celebrate the different holidays.  I can understand why someone might not like it, but I'm all for it.  I think it brings something familiar to the game world.  WOW does it best with Halloween.

     

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  • IfrianMMOIfrianMMO BarcelonaPosts: 212Member

    10/10

    You managed to troll hundreds.

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  • ZecktorinZecktorin Bloomingdale, MIPosts: 231Member

    OP no one if forcing you man. Besides its not "your" games its the devs they can do whatever they want. It's an American game so they follow american traditions. That is all it is bro. No reason to be offended. They are not peronally attacking you on purpose and there is not any hate meant in any of it.

    To all the " I hate Atheists thing". Just STFU. Everyone is entitled to their own belief. People who bitch and try to force religion on people is what makes us religious types look bad. Everyone is a human being and is entilted your obligation to treat them as such.

    Good day.

  • EsuarfeeeeEsuarfeeee cityofangelsPosts: 76Member

    Oh i know! let's make an MMO that has ATHEISTS elements in it. Seriously man, things like these should not be made of a big deal. I'm an atheist as well but i really don't care if they hold this kind of events, you just can't expect things to run in favor of what you like,what you feel or in what you believe in especially in games.

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  • PurutzilPurutzil East Stroudsburg, PAPosts: 2,927Member Uncommon

    Hi I'm athiest and I dislike people who are so elitist anything that can be celebrated is wrong attitude. Everyone is free to practice their own religion and having events that does coincide with a religion (or even if its not and just a day) isnt' bad. Theres plenty of ways to make the events work without having it 'break' the way the game acts. Events give a nice change up from the same old same old and most are quite optional to play through.

    Most games already do some way link a holiday to lore so complaining its 'similiar' is just silly. 

  • DraronDraron A town in, KYPosts: 993Member
    No. Most games I know that celebrate seasonal events make there own lore for the holiday anyways.
  • aphydorkaphydork Boring, ORPosts: 133Member

    It's easier to get people in the spirit when an in-game holiday coincides with a real world holiday. Developers can feed off the energy that the holidays bring to people.

    Otherwise, it's just a thing. You might feel that way about holidays you don't believe in and don't want to participate in as well. That feeling of ambivalence is how most people would feel about a non-holiday in-game holiday.

  • CaldrinCaldrin CwmbranPosts: 4,533Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by TheAncient

    There has been an awful trend of including holiday events in MMORPGs of late. I can see why some people might love them, but not everyone is into events which essentially are immersion breakers.

    I'm an athiest, a middle aged athiest at that, so the idea of a heavily commercialised Christian or Pagan events changing what is meant to be escapist fun is not only anathema but downright intrusive. Celebrating Independance Day or Thanksgiving simply has no meaning where I live and has no relevance to the games either.

    Why can we not have MMORPGs with unique holiday events tied to the lore of their particular worlds? That is something I could buy into and enjoy.

     

    You what?

     

    Now im a athiest as well but I love christmas and other holidays throughout the year.. not because they are linked to religion but because they help bring people togeather and anyone who rejects the good that comes from that needs to take a hard look in the mirror and ask whats wrong..

    Either way the fact the devs do events is games si a great thing and usually helps inject somthing new into a game for a few week and thats not a bad thing at all..

  • SimphanaticSimphanatic Marion, IAPosts: 92Member
    Originally posted by TheAncient

    There has been an awful trend of including holiday events in MMORPGs of late. I can see why some people might love them, but not everyone is into events which essentially are immersion breakers.

    I'm an athiest, a middle aged athiest at that, so the idea of a heavily commercialised Christian or Pagan events changing what is meant to be escapist fun is not only anathema but downright intrusive. Celebrating Independance Day or Thanksgiving simply has no meaning where I live and has no relevance to the games either.

    Why can we not have MMORPGs with unique holiday events tied to the lore of their particular worlds? That is something I could buy into and enjoy.

    When I read this yesterday I had a serious reply, but I thought better of it.

     

    First, holiday events in MMORPGs aren't a recent phenomena; they've been included in one form or another since the genre was introduced.

     

    Second, I don't give a big rat's ass if you're an athiest. It's not something I need to know; and for the most part it's not even relevant to your gripe -- Independence Day and Thanksgiving are non secular observances.

     

    For many years I played an MMORPG that incorporated the Chinese New Year. Now, I don't happen to be of Chinese heritage, but I don't recall getting my panties all wadded, except to the extent that ignorant little twits were constantly shooting off game-provided fireworks making the game lag horribly, but that's another issue altogether.

     

    Back to the point of your atheism, even if I did give a shit, I'd remind you that there isn't one Judeo-Christian observance -- not one, nadda, none -- that isn't co-opted from some more archaic ritualistic or non secular observance. So, buy yourself a larger pair of briefs, and chill.

     

    Finally, and this is really the point of this rejoinder: despite the fact most MMO developers adhere to the tedious theme that each player is the hero, saves the world, or otherwise has some profound affect on game play, I've got a dirty little secret for you -- that's not really the case. So, please sally forth with the knowledge that you are not the center of the universe afterall, and if you don't like it, by all means go do something else.

  • IcewhiteIcewhite Elmhurst, ILPosts: 6,403Member

    Not many people in this thread have a very firm grasp of atheism.

    And the 'mock offended' troll?  I mean, dusting off a classic day?

     

    Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Stone Mountain, GAPosts: 13,680Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by OG_Zorvan

    Why have Easter egg hunts in a game world where Easter wouldn't exist?

    For the same reason that we have Easter eggs.

    Honestly stop and think about that one and you've answered your own question. :)

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  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Stone Mountain, GAPosts: 13,680Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Icewhite

    Not many people in this thread have a very firm grasp on atheism.

    I don't even think the OP does, as his issue is with real life traditions being celebrated in his virtual world, with several of his own examples completely unrelated to religion altogether.

     

    There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
    "Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre

  • SimphanaticSimphanatic Marion, IAPosts: 92Member
    Originally posted by Icewhite

    Not many people in this thread have a very firm grasp on atheism.

    When I drink too much I've been known to worship a porcelain god, no nevermind that that god is usually full of shit.

     

    Maybe, just maybe, we take ourselves too seriously; and I cannot contrive a worse venue for doing so than within the context of discussing a goddamned game.

  • aphydorkaphydork Boring, ORPosts: 133Member

    The only way someone would understand a religion outside of theirs is if they had a personal connection to a person of that faith or belief system.

    Otherwise, people of different faiths than you are simply "the Others."

    You think that I am not giving people enough credit. I am fine with this.

  • GaborikGaborik Roseville, MNPosts: 251Member
    Wow a middle age person made this post? Just sounds like a little kid throwing a temper tantrum to me. What is wrong with people? Because you as an athiest dont enjoy a certain aspect it should be removed? The athiest are all ready running rampant on our streets with their fake protest (fake cause they dont know what thay are even protesting) now we have to hear them whine about a video game? Come on really?
  • Vlhad77Vlhad77 Mountain Home, ARPosts: 139Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Vunak23

    People get worked up over the dumbest things.... no wonder this world sucks ass. 

    this comment right here gets to the point of it all.   /thumbsup

  • SimphanaticSimphanatic Marion, IAPosts: 92Member
    Originally posted by Vlhad7734
    Originally posted by Vunak23

    People get worked up over the dumbest things.... no wonder this world sucks ass. 

    this comment right here gets to the point of it all.   /thumbsup

    Here's the rub: it is totally within our nature to seek some deeper meaning, absent that we are dogs ... or aardvarks. The devil is in keeping our findings a private affair.

  • cybertruckercybertrucker Pensacola, FLPosts: 1,119Member

    To the OP - BOO FRIGGEN HOO.. Get over it already. Its funny how Aethiests go thru life thinking that their choice of not having anything to celebrate should outweigh the rights and choice of those who do celebrate.

    I could care less if its not considered Politcally Correct. But your rights and choices should not EVER impede those of others. PERIOD end of friggen story.

    You dont like the Festivities going on in games dont take part in them. Go sit your unhappy butt in a dungeon somewhere, and grind.

  • VesaviusVesavius BristolPosts: 7,647Member Uncommon

    Never 'too many', but it does boher me that they are always just based on RL holidays... I find that a bit cheesy and uninspiring tbh

    I would rather see the true game's lore reflected in the events, rather than being twisted to fit some version of Halloween.

  • MindTriggerMindTrigger La Quinta, CAPosts: 2,596Member
    Originally posted by TheAncient

    There has been an awful trend of including holiday events in MMORPGs of late. I can see why some people might love them, but not everyone is into events which essentially are immersion breakers.

    I'm an athiest, a middle aged athiest at that, so the idea of a heavily commercialised Christian or Pagan events changing what is meant to be escapist fun is not only anathema but downright intrusive. Celebrating Independance Day or Thanksgiving simply has no meaning where I live and has no relevance to the games either.

    Why can we not have MMORPGs with unique holiday events tied to the lore of their particular worlds? That is something I could buy into and enjoy.

     

    Well then. I suppose all developers should contact you before making  their games so they can make sure any holiday events they want to put in will match up with your beliefs.  

    Tolerance or toleration a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward those whose opinions, practices, race, religion, nationality, etc., differ from one's own; freedom from bigotry.

    These holiday events are meant to be a fun break from the norm in these games, and as a place for people to socialize.  People largely enjoy and appreciate them, and they are opt-in.  No one is forcing you to partake.  Frankly, I don't even know how you can get emmersed in these boring themepark games enough for anything to break it, but good for you for being able to do so.

    I'd also like to add that atheism seems to have become its own religion lately, especially with Reddit-dwelling psuedo-intellectual hipsters.  I'm non-religious myself (and I dig Reddit), but I don't undertand why everyone can't be allowed to do their own thing.

    A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.

  • aphydorkaphydork Boring, ORPosts: 133Member

    Because everyone that doesn't think or believe the same way you do is dumb.

    And by you, I mean me. Or, well, I. But still me.

  • GhavriggGhavrigg Halifax, NSPosts: 778Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by TheAncient

    There has been an awful trend of including holiday events in MMORPGs of late. I can see why some people might love them, but not everyone is into events which essentially are immersion breakers.

    I'm an athiest, a middle aged athiest at that, so the idea of a heavily commercialised Christian or Pagan events changing what is meant to be escapist fun is not only anathema but downright intrusive. Celebrating Independance Day or Thanksgiving simply has no meaning where I live and has no relevance to the games either.

    Why can we not have MMORPGs with unique holiday events tied to the lore of their particular worlds? That is something I could buy into and enjoy.

     

    Way to stir the pot.

    This forum should start a holiday themed around all the complainers who like to complain for no reason. Most holidays stopped being about religion a long time ago, anyway. How about stop being so cynical and just enjoy these events for what they're meant to be: fun little things to do on the side.

    By the way, it's "Atheist."

  • MindTriggerMindTrigger La Quinta, CAPosts: 2,596Member
    Originally posted by Aviggin
    Originally posted by TheAncient

    There has been an awful trend of including holiday events in MMORPGs of late. I can see why some people might love them, but not everyone is into events which essentially are immersion breakers.

    I'm an athiest, a middle aged athiest at that, so the idea of a heavily commercialised Christian or Pagan events changing what is meant to be escapist fun is not only anathema but downright intrusive. Celebrating Independance Day or Thanksgiving simply has no meaning where I live and has no relevance to the games either.

    Why can we not have MMORPGs with unique holiday events tied to the lore of their particular worlds? That is something I could buy into and enjoy.

     

    Way to stir the pot.

    This forum should start a holiday themed around all the complainers who like to complain for no reason. Most holidays stopped being about religion a long time ago, anyway. How about stop being so cynical and just enjoy these events for what they're meant to be: fun little things to do on the side.

    By the way, it's "Atheist".

    The funny part about it is these games are full of all kinds of mythology and religious overtones, witchcraft/magics, etc. and he's not complaining about that.  He's just complaining because some real-world spiritual beliefs and holidays are found in some games.  A true atheist would see them all the same, since they don't believe in any of it.  This is just hipster atheism that he wants to put on display.

    A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.

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