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Originally posted by Aerowyn Originally posted by grimal Originally posted by Aerowyn Originally posted by grimal My sub has not technically run out yet, so I can honestly say I never really left. I am interested to know who is coming back when it does go F2P next month. I am currently playing GW2 but plan to play TOR again with the incoming change.
curious what type of game you consider swtor.. i couldn't imagine you consider it a mmorpg... played like a co-op srpg to me when I played personally
as for the OP if they add actual space combat i'd consider it but till then probably not.
I do consider it an MMORPG.
interesting considering this is what you have to say about gw2 not being a mmorpg
" All your dialogue is pretty much scripted already with little input aside from the occasional faction or strategy choice (from what I have seen). What if I don't like those choices my character said? Too bad. What if I don't like the skills that have been assigned to me? Too bad. See, there is very little choice in what you can do to customize your character.
This is all fine and dandy but there are a lot of people who are saying they feel this same detachment from the game and their character. I am not alone. I think this is one of the big reasons why. Open your eyes a little. I know you have invested almost five thousand posts into this game, but maybe, just maybe others see it different."
swtor you are given 3 dialouge options all of which have pre-determined outcomes and many which don't even match what you actually picked. You have no choice in where and when you go to places as you follow your personal story because your choices do not change this.. just odd because while I didn't find the stories in swtor bad i felt more detached in this instance from my character than say gw2. Interesting standard you have there
Forgot to mention the talent tree/skill system in swtor is much more restrictive than the trait system of gw2 for example one IA only has a couple playstyles they can play.. in gw2 each class has a ton of playstyles depending on trait setup, utility skills setup, gear loadout, rune/sigil setup
It's a limited linear themepark, but I do find it still containing enough RPG elements to consider it as such.
A lot of people have criticisms that the game feels too much like an SRPG and I can understand those complaints. This particular game requires a rather large population to keep that MMO feel, otherwise it can seem lonely at times.
Why are you doing a SWTOR vs. GW2 debate here? I am just asking who is coming back. If you want that kind of thread, make one (although it might be against the rules of conduct as it will just encourage flaming).
Edit: I already stated in numerous threads I think GW2 is a great game. I enjoy it. I still play it. Can't I enjoy it as is? Or is that not enough? Must I be utterly in-love with it and abandon all other MMOs to satisfy some here?
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Originally posted by grimal Originally posted by Aerowyn Originally posted by grimal Originally posted by Aerowyn Originally posted by grimal My sub has not technically run out yet, so I can honestly say I never really left. I am interested to know who is coming back when it does go F2P next month. I am currently playing GW2 but plan to play TOR again with the incoming change.
wasn't trying to start any debate.. ill make another thread if it's really worth one:)
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I honestly never got a chanc to play this game. I was burried in work when SWTOR released. I bought the game but never got enough time..i think i played it for a week or so in total.
So i will surely give it a try.
Originally posted by Sevenstar61 Played SWTOR from early access and I will continue to play for a long time. For me $12.99 a month is a very low price for what I get every day from this game. I am playing every day for few hours and I am never bored. I live lives of my characters though. I am one with them LOL. This game is amazing in this aspect . Actually, it is amazing how it affected my creativity, as I started even to write some fan fiction LOL, I even posted one of my stories on fan fiction forum. English is my second language so it made me work double hard LOL. In other words... this game gave me more then just play time, it actually makes me better in many other ways... Kudos for Bioware writers .
That awesome, I really love the stories in this game too! The experience is fantastic and I love the different twists and turns, the drama is great. Good to hear how its inspired you and good luck with your future fiction!
Originally posted by Aerowyn Originally posted by stevebmbsqd Originally posted by Aerowyn Originally posted by grimal My sub has not technically run out yet, so I can honestly say I never really left. I am interested to know who is coming back when it does go F2P next month. I am currently playing GW2 but plan to play TOR again with the incoming change.
I am curious why you feel that way. I also feel the same way about this game as well as GW2. I have given my reasons on GW2 and SWTOR. I am curious what your reasons are.
for swtor it was many reasons but here are my tops ones.
1. Center focus of the game imho is the srpg story
2. Most Planets felt very linear and confined
3. Companion system for everybody
4. Gated off areas for story quests
5. By the time I hit Balmorra i frequenty had less than 10 people on the entire planet.
6. Only place I saw a lot of people was fleet giving it more of a lobby game feel.
again obviously all my opinion and experience but this was from launch to about 3 weeks in
Originally posted by aphydork If you want the best experience, you really need to be with the competitive leveling curve when a game launches. After a month, interest drops dramatically, and you start seeing sparse areas. I honestly believe that will be the case for all but the absolute best games. GW2 is a relatively beloved favorite, and even then... SWTOR as well. Enjoy the first week of F2P SWTOR. I'm sure there will be a lot of interest the first week, at least.
That's funny. I pre-ordered he CE while in closed beta, played through Early Access, and for the first 45 days after launch ( leaving 45 days of paid time wasted as I just couldn't take it any more ). You know what I experienced? Exactly what Aerowyn described above you. Their craptastic instancing system made the frigging game feel like a ghost town from Day 1. No "competitive learning curve" is going to fix broken and/or horribly implemented systems.
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Jung Ma server was my home too for a short time, then i bounced between that and Lord Artass ( lord lard ass )
the RP community had events, but was still doing in house stuff - some times it was fun, other times , some groups would have you pass a friggin DNA test to see if your a "elite pvp hacking jerk" or not..... just after a while of jumping through hoops and being diplomatic - my care meter ran bone dry, and got more fun just solo.
but even soloing in SWTOR has its limits, and not very rewarding ones either.
So, stories first..then..maybe.....Maybe abit of RP if i run into something that grabs my interest.
Originally posted by Psychow Originally posted by Istavaan Not even if you paid me.
/cancels $700 / hour contract offer to Istavaan...
I'm more easily bought and will offer to play for a mere $75/hour.
Yay, another poorly thought out poll with results that will mean absolutely nothing.
You need to have fewer options, no idiotic joke and backhanded GW2 options, and options for those who never played. Making a poll seems to be a tricky thing as so few have any substance to them.
Anyway, I don't plan on playing the game. The Freemium model of the west sucks. I have EQ2 if I want to wrangle with that type Freemium system. My brother just got a computer and told me he is interested in the game and I would play if he wanted to, but that's the only reason I would install it.
The game looks so generic and shallow and so very very NOT Star Wars. Star Wars to me is about huge action, a nearly hopeless struggle against the pervasive and powerful forces of evil, and awesome space battles. Star Was has a larger than life feel about it. TOR doesn't have any of that Star Wars look or feel. It looks more like a bad Syfy SW ripoff clone, just plastic and generic.
I would really like to return to finish my character's story, which I was really enjoying. However, I'm a healer on my main and I heard they were nerfed pretty badly, and I wonder about having good enough gear to finish my story too, but.....like the poll said, I'll return and "see how it goes." I doubt that I'll be inspired to do it on a pay to play basis though, so just free to play for now. We'll see if it's possible to do what I want on free to play. If not.....no great loss, I still have GW2.
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Originally posted by grimal
lol i don't know why people thnk I care what game they like or hate just so many inconsistancies and biases between games.. anyways i digress.. just found it odd you think swtor is a mmorpg yet your reasoning to call others non-rpgs is very present in this game.. anyways moving on
oh back to the OP i actually MAY jump in to finish my story but not sure we will se.. the star wars lover in me says I need to but the gamer in me just can't.
Originally posted by Aerowyn oh back to the OP i actually MAY jump in to finish my story but not sure we will se.. the star wars lover in me says I need to but the gamer in me just can't.
The completionist in me needs to, but... I feel like I would be headdesking my entire way through.
Did they change a lot? Or is it just slightly more polished with more content patches?
I will most likely log in and stare at my Jedi toon.
Then I'll remember how boring the game actually is and log out.
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SWTOR needs way too much work to ever draw me back to it.
I was never so excited to play a new game and SWTOR completely let me down. I will never again get that fired up for a new game.
Originally posted by Aerowyn Originally posted by grimal
If you think my reasoning is the same, then you haven't read or understood my points very well.
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I have to go with 'I hate everything it stands for.'
I managed to get my Bounty Hunter to max level, almost fully PvP gear'd (which was terrible btw with their horrid RNG for PvP gear), and through the Bounty Hunter's most god-awful story line I've ever went through in an RPG. I really didn't want to spacebar through the story, as I'm usually not a watch the cutscene and read the quest type of player, but by the end of it I really wish I had.
The only thing I ended up doing was queuing for battlegrounds in the end. I believe F2P you can play only 3 BG's per week? If so, definately no reason for me to even redownload it. Hell they even scrapped the little open world PvP zone they had didn't they?
Rift's PvP has always been terribly unbalanced but I'd much rather resub to it and play their new expansion than return F2P to SWTOR. Or even better, I'll just load up League of Legends. As all these new MMORPG's are nothing but glorified lobby games anymore anyways, MOBA > MMORPG PvP for me. Now if it was actually open world PvP, immersive, that could be a different story... (I'm not talkin hardcore full lootz, just in the actual damn world not some BG instance or even PvP only zone to throw us in).
Originally posted by bakabröd still playing and having a blast.
i bet u play a jc or si