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EQNext to be largest Sandbox game ever!

SacfedSacfed Victoria, BCPosts: 212Member
Smedley just said it! What do you think?
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  • RobokappRobokapp Dublin, OHPosts: 5,205Member Uncommon
    is it out yet?

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  • drakaenadrakaena Posts: 488Member Uncommon
    In-game video or it didn't happen
  • SacfedSacfed Victoria, BCPosts: 212Member
    It definitly just happend. Will have more info at next SOE Live, will be able to touch it then.
  • hyrulezhyrulez Naples, FLPosts: 31Member

    i feel like this is the rise of sanboxes FINALLY........tired of the copy and and paste theme parks.

    go away mr. boar.....i gotta stick this axe in someone's face!

  • SacfedSacfed Victoria, BCPosts: 212Member
    He sounded like they scraped EQ3 because of all the recent failures with <insert game>. Gonna work out something new for us maybe x-fingers.
  • KumaponKumapon Vancouver, BCPosts: 702Member Uncommon
  • SacfedSacfed Victoria, BCPosts: 212Member
    Well, do we hop on the hype wagon or is it too early :)
  • GolbezTheLionGolbezTheLion Los Angeles, CAPosts: 331Member Uncommon
    Norrath is perfect for a sandbox, if they don't screw this up they will have something truly special here.
  • KhalathwyrKhalathwyr Denton, TXPosts: 3,138Member
    Originally posted by Sacfed
    Smedley just said it! What do you think?

    Like the cake, it's a lie.

    Sorry, that's just what I feel about Smedley.

    That said, and seeing what their idea of a sandbox is, if it includes the original SWG crafting system, I'll think about lifting the business decision ban of SOE (Sony) products from my home.

     

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  • DavisFlightDavisFlight Talahasee, FLPosts: 2,556Member
    Originally posted by hyrulez

    i feel like this is the rise of sanboxes FINALLY........tired of the copy and and paste theme parks.

    go away mr. boar.....i gotta stick this axe in someone's face!

    I kind of expected this. Over the last few years Smed has been VERY vocal about social emergent experiences, and how they're the way forward. He's explained again and again that he regrets what SoE did to SWG.

    In almost every interview and several times during the Reddit Q&A he mentioned how sandboxes are the way forward for the industry and that EQNext will be extremely community and social oriented.

    Smed is a rare breed in that... he's one of the few original MMO devs around that still have a ton of money and influence behind them. He's been around long enough to see that themeparks just don't pan out and he's ready to go back to the style of games that he found fascinating all those years ago when he was trying to recreate his D&D experience.

     

    That's just my opinion anyway, from the interviews I've seen. Most modern day CEOs are publisher shills who aren't interested in games or MMOs. And it shows.

  • Params7Params7 Runnemede, NJPosts: 204Member
    Originally posted by hyrulez

    i feel like this is the rise of sanboxes FINALLY........tired of the copy and and paste theme parks.

    go away mr. boar.....i gotta stick this axe in someone's face!

     

    Yeah...this is really good to see. MMO's went through a depressing casual phase last 5-10 years and basically lost its entire appeal as a genre of gaming. Hopefully with games like Darkfall, Archeage and soon hopefully EQ Next, we might get to relive the golden ages of true mmo's again. Lets not forget EVE Online has been keeping up the good fight and become successfull. Screw themeparks.

  • OG_ZorvanOG_Zorvan Fresno, CAPosts: 615Member

    Who would have ever thought SOE ( "Noone wants to be Uncle Owen!" ) would be the ones to throw EQ into the sandbox fire?

    Could be interesting.

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  • DavisFlightDavisFlight Talahasee, FLPosts: 2,556Member
    Originally posted by Params7
    Originally posted by hyrulez

    i feel like this is the rise of sanboxes FINALLY........tired of the copy and and paste theme parks.

    go away mr. boar.....i gotta stick this axe in someone's face!

     

    Yeah...this is really good to see. MMO's went through a depressing casual phase last 5-10 years and basically lost its entire appeal as a genre of gaming. Hopefully with games like Darkfall, Archeage and soon hopefully EQ Next, we might get to relive the golden ages of true mmo's again. Lets not forget EVE Online has been keeping up the good fight and become successfull. Screw themeparks.

    If you look at games like Eve and Darkfall, it seems that the only MMOs that are even doing slightly well are the non themeparks. The ones that focus on a specific play style, and develop for it with a passion. All the MMOs that shot for the moon by cloning WoW fell like Charlie Brown trying to kick a football.

    And you know what, that makes sense, because older MMOs did what Darkfalll and Eve did. Almost all of them were vastly distinct from one another, with far more differences than similarities. They aimed for a specific type of fan and held onto them.

    EverQuest locked down PvE and raiding. Dark Age of Camelot locked down concentual PvP. SWG locked down the sandbox/scifi audience. Asheron's Call locked down the fantasy sandbox/slightly themepark audience.

    They were all different and they all focused on something.

    The MMo sphere back then was a wealth of choice. And now your only choice is between indie MMOs and WoW clones.

    Perhaps we can have an MMO Silver Age/Renaissance after this long LONG Dark Age.

  • senadinsenadin Markham, ABPosts: 228Member

    Let the Hype begins!

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  • KarteliKarteli Providence, PAPosts: 2,646Member
    Originally posted by Kumapon

    It's been posted over at massivley...

    http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/10/18/soe-live-2012-keynote-announcements/

    I wonder what "sandbox-style" means?  My grocery store sells "cheese-style" burritos and they are called that because they are not made with real cheese .. :/

     

    EverQuest Next has been redone from scratch so that it's not EverQuest III. Smedley promises it's going to be the "world's largest sandbox-style MMO ever made." It'll be playable at the next Fan Faire.

     

    I'll be waiting for more announcements, SOE!   /cross-fingers

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  • GolbezTheLionGolbezTheLion Los Angeles, CAPosts: 331Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by OG_Zorvan

    Who would have ever thought SOE ( "Noone wants to be Uncle Owen!" ) would be the ones to throw EQ into the sandbox fire?

    Could be interesting.

    7 years worth of constant criticism from ex-customers about the fact that you made a mistake tends to get people's attention.

  • NadiaNadia Canonsburg, PAPosts: 11,866Member Common
    Originally posted by OG_Zorvan

    Who would have ever thought SOE ( "Noone wants to be Uncle Owen!" ) would be the ones to throw EQ into the sandbox fire?

    Could be interesting.

    that quote was from LucasArts - not SOE

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/10/arts/10star.html?_r=0

    "We really just needed to make the game a lot more accessible to a much broader player base," said Nancy MacIntyre, the game's senior director at LucasArts. "There was lots of reading, much too much, in the game. There was a lot of wandering around learning about different abilities. We really needed to give people the experience of being Han Solo or Luke Skywalker rather than being Uncle Owen, the moisture farmer. We wanted more instant gratification: kill, get treasure, repeat. We needed to give people more of an opportunity to be a part of what they have seen in the movies rather than something they had created themselves."

     

  • DavisFlightDavisFlight Talahasee, FLPosts: 2,556Member

    My only hope is that it has decent PvP. I love PvE sandboxes but its so much more satisfying when you're bettering yourself to fight other people as well as baddies.

    But if they focus solely on PvE and make it the best PvE game ever, I'm cool with that too.

  • strangiato2112strangiato2112 Richmond, VAPosts: 1,538Member Common
    Originally posted by OG_Zorvan

    Who would have ever thought SOE ( "Noone wants to be Uncle Owen!" ) would be the ones to throw EQ into the sandbox fire?

    Could be interesting.

    SoE was easily the most likely MMO developer by far to make a sandbox, and really this announcement isnt a surprise at all IMO,  but its nice to hear still.

     

    The uncle owen comment was by Lucas Arts, certainly not SoE.  I dont think SoE wanted to dump the sand out of the box at all, and even NGE still had a large amount of sandbox gameplay left in it.

  • ZylaxxZylaxx Erlanger, KYPosts: 2,574Member

    LOL EQ.

     

    EQ gave rise to themepark games, I'll believe it when I see it.

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  • KhalathwyrKhalathwyr Denton, TXPosts: 3,138Member
    Originally posted by OG_Zorvan

    Who would have ever thought SOE ( "Noone wants to be Uncle Owen!" ) would be the ones to throw EQ into the sandbox fire?

    Could be interesting.

    I know, right! Apparently "research" has shown thereare more uncle owens out there than they previously thought.

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  • HokieHokie Vancouver Wa.Posts: 1,063Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by GolbezTheLion
    Originally posted by OG_Zorvan

    Who would have ever thought SOE ( "Noone wants to be Uncle Owen!" ) would be the ones to throw EQ into the sandbox fire?

    Could be interesting.

    7 years worth of constant criticism from ex-customers about the fact that you made a mistake tends to get people's attention.

    I'd say its more like 7 years of mediocre success in the MMO market has had more to do with it.

    But either way lets hope they put forth 100% effort into makeing it great, instead of half-assing it.

     

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  • strangiato2112strangiato2112 Richmond, VAPosts: 1,538Member Common
    Originally posted by Zylaxx

    LOL EQ.

     

    EQ gave rise to themepark games, I'll believe it when I see it.

    The company did EQ.  after that it did:

    a console MMO (EQOA)

    an MMOFPS (PS)

    a themepark (EQ2)

    a sandbox (SWG)

    a kid oriented MMO (FreeRealms)

    an action oriented cross platform super hero MMO (DCUO)

     

    The only pure themepark SoE ever did was EQ2.  EQ and EQOA were pre-themepark games.  Level based, but not quest hub based at all and MUCH more open ended in nature.

     

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  • OG_ZorvanOG_Zorvan Fresno, CAPosts: 615Member
    Originally posted by Nadia
    Originally posted by OG_Zorvan

    Who would have ever thought SOE ( "Noone wants to be Uncle Owen!" ) would be the ones to throw EQ into the sandbox fire?

    Could be interesting.

    that quote was from LucasArts - not SOE

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/10/arts/10star.html?_r=0

    "We really just needed to make the game a lot more accessible to a much broader player base," said Nancy MacIntyre, the game's senior director at LucasArts. "There was lots of reading, much too much, in the game. There was a lot of wandering around learning about different abilities. We really needed to give people the experience of being Han Solo or Luke Skywalker rather than being Uncle Owen, the moisture farmer. We wanted more instant gratification: kill, get treasure, repeat. We needed to give people more of an opportunity to be a part of what they have seen in the movies rather than something they had created themselves."

     

     

    Originally posted by strangiato2112
    Originally posted by OG_Zorvan

    Who would have ever thought SOE ( "Noone wants to be Uncle Owen!" ) would be the ones to throw EQ into the sandbox fire?

    Could be interesting.

    SoE was easily the most likely MMO developer by far to make a sandbox, and really this announcement isnt a surprise at all IMO,  but its nice to hear still.

     

    The uncle owen comment was by Lucas Arts, certainly not SoE.  I dont think SoE wanted to dump the sand out of the box at all, and even NGE still had a large amount of sandbox gameplay left in it.

     

    Yeah guys, I know it was Nancy "Oh look, I make Leapfrogs now!" Mcintyre.

    But up until very recently, that outlook has been supported by SOE in everything they've done.

     

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