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(Poll) Why I Prefer f2p

OrtwigOrtwig Cambridge, MAPosts: 1,159Member Uncommon
Just curious about folks who are asking for f2p games.  Maybe we can get an idea of the demographics here -- list your own preference (be honest!).  Those who prefer a sub need not take the poll -- it's really for folks who prefer f2p.
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  • KuppaKuppa Boulder, COPosts: 3,292Member Uncommon
    For me its a matter of the playing field. The only games I would pay a sub for would have to be really awesome. Right now there are so many good f2p options that I don't see a reason to pay a sub for any of the games that ask for one right now. BTW my issue is more with the sub than the purschase price.

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  • DauzqulDauzqul Detroit, MIPosts: 1,405Member Uncommon

    It's not about money. It's about equality.

    Once I purchase a game and my monthly fee, I should have access to everything in the game (if I do the work for it). These bullcrap cash shop items, convention items, CE items, pre-order items, and cross-promotion items have got to stop.

  • OrtwigOrtwig Cambridge, MAPosts: 1,159Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Kuppa
    For me its a matter of the playing field. The only games I would pay a sub for would have to be really awesome. Right now there are so many good f2p options that I don't see a reason to pay a sub for any of the games that ask for one right now. BTW my issue is more with the sub than the purschase price.

     

  • anemoanemo Posts: 762Member Uncommon
    I actually like nice little perks in a PvE game.   Spend a bit of cash get a once a day ability and similar.

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  • AmjocoAmjoco Layton, UTPosts: 4,779Member Uncommon
    Well now that GW2 is here I thought it would be fun to do 3 at once. B2P - GW2, F2P-Vanguard, P2P-WoW. :)

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  • TheocritusTheocritus Gary, INPosts: 3,750Member Uncommon
         I like f2p because I like to play games in short bursts and move around and try new ones...I have no interest in paying a box+sub (cash shop is no temptation) because I just dont have long term interest in most MMOs.....I also like to try MMOs for free before paying anything.
  • Ice-QueenIce-Queen USA, GAPosts: 2,451Member Uncommon
    I prefer subscription based mmos, myself.

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  • Crunchy222Crunchy222 new york, ILPosts: 386Member

    I like a f2p game as a quick side dish attraction. No attachment, i will not pay a dime for them, and ill get to why later.

    I will only get attached and play long term a P2P game.  I have a few reasons as to why.  First of all the goal of the developers is to keep player, yes not all do this successully, but theres more motive there with keeping player in game when their paycheck comes monthly from subs.

    Also, its about a level playfield and long term play.  A P2P game i know exactly what its going to cost me, i know that everyone i encounter has the same potenial, access, and advantages i have.  Its fair. 

    With a F2P game, the start is always fantastic, however there is always a designed tipping point where the cash shop becomes vital.  Its at this point that in order to play the game long term it becomes more expensive than a p2p.  Yes many bite the bullet and avoid it, and often games offer ways to buy CS items in game that requier unnatural amounts of grind.  Its just not fun or very expensive.  I wont pay for a f2p game because ill never play it long term, and any money spent is wasted in my eyes, since its optional and i wont be staying.  With a p2p game im paying for time played, its a different mindset.  I have no issue paying 50 cents a day for the option to play as long as i want ect.

     

    Also with all this "make every game free" movement that seems to be happening...once the game does go free, and in every game designed as a free game, the next complaint from these people is about the cash shop.  They just want a p2p game thats free, meaning all access and no advantages for paying...which is funny because i bet if you asked any of them to work for you for free they would laugh in your face.

     

    A side note, i dont count games as f2p where is pay per content.  A lot of p2p games took this route to get more players, endgame  typically remains a monthly fee, and its more like a trial, even GW2 is like this since youll be buying content at box price in the future.  Pay per content has its appeals, and i dont dislike it as much as item mall games, since i can just sub to it and avoid all the BS involved with restrictions.  Only works well if you dont sell cash shop advantages, then its just a bad deal.

     

    I know this topic has been beaten to death, and plenty of people out there have serious issues with paying for their entertainment, or dont have issues with a game with a never ending money sink as long as there is no standard fee...as strange as it all is to me, i dont care that free games exist, i just wish the followers of f2p would stop begging every p2p game to go free...because you sure dont see p2p gamers begging for all the many free games to go p2p.  Also i have a belief that if $15 a month is way too much to ask for a game then gaming should NOT be a priority or even an option...you have bigger issues in life that should be dealt with.

  • kalrhaelkalrhael Boston, MAPosts: 87Member

    Because its cheaper and I'm poor, in the last two years of playing LOTRO I spent a total of.....drum roll... 45$!!!! for one month sub and a expansion pack. 

  • ZigZagsZigZags Modesto, CAPosts: 328Member
    f2p games are just gimmicks. There's always a catch to get you to pay. For that reason, f2p games are crap.

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  • QuirhidQuirhid TamperePosts: 5,969Member Common
    I don't prefer F2P but so far no P2P game has ever been so good to justify a subscription. It is not even a matter of cost/benefit because what you get from a F2P game is essentially the same what you get from a P2P game - likely for free or cheaper.

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  • aSynchroaSynchro azeaze, AKPosts: 176Member Uncommon
    Please don't forget to add some kind of "just show me the result" to your next poll ^^
  • WaterlilyWaterlily parisPosts: 2,973Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by ZigZags
    f2p games are just gimmicks. There's always a catch to get you to pay. For that reason, f2p games are crap.

    ^ this

    I like Street Gears, that was the only F2P game that didn't ask me for money. All the other F2P games keep trying to get money from you left and right, the game is a pure scam, it's not longer about the game, it's about who can spend the most money.

    I'm playing console games right now with my friend until they wisen up and drop their scamming.

  • QuirhidQuirhid TamperePosts: 5,969Member Common
    Originally posted by Waterlily

    I like Street Gears, that was the only F2P game that didn't ask me for money. All the other F2P games keep trying to get money from you left and right, the game is a pure scam, it's not longer about the game, it's about who can spend the most money.

    I'm playing console games right now with my friend until they wisen up and drop their scamming.

    Setting aside your gross exaggeration for a moment, you still make this assumption about games you haven't even played yet. How can anyone take a comment like that seriously?

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  • WaterlilyWaterlily parisPosts: 2,973Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Quirhid
    Originally posted by Waterlily

    I like Street Gears, that was the only F2P game that didn't ask me for money. All the other F2P games keep trying to get money from you left and right, the game is a pure scam, it's not longer about the game, it's about who can spend the most money.

    I'm playing console games right now with my friend until they wisen up and drop their scamming.

    Setting aside your gross exaggeration for a moment, you still make this assumption about games you haven't even played yet. How can anyone take a comment like that seriously?

     

    How about you let people have their opinion on F2P without trying to troll other people. I don't like F2P's business model, deal with it, if you like them fine, go play.

  • protodoxaprotodoxa Seattle, WAPosts: 14Member
    I put bargain hunting, which is a big draw in some f2p/freemium titles like LOTRO and DDO, and in both those games, and at least one other p2p game (Rift), subbing can be a bargain. As deals in some f2p titles chage over time, I get to be picky about how I spend my money. It's at least the illusion of control.
  • VhalnVhaln Chicago, ILPosts: 3,159Member
    Other: I don't like being bound to a game by a subscription.  I want to be able to come and go freely, without the hassle of needing to sign up again.  And again.  Or keep paying indefinately, even if I take a few months off.  Etc.

    When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  • TigerAeroTigerAero Fort Campbell, KYPosts: 127Member
    " I like the option of paying to get better gear or benefits"
  • CaldrinCaldrin CwmbranPosts: 4,533Member Uncommon

    f2p is a bane on the MMO industry.. it has messed up nearly every game out there...

    I am just glad there still a few companies doing monthly sub only and i hope they stick at it.

  • WhackoWhacko Denver, COPosts: 135Member

    You want to have everything in the game, just grab mommies credit card and there ya go.....

    Insta gratification for the masses.

    Cash shops always have been around in some form or another, now it's mainstream. 

    It's all physcological , if they bleed your wallet for dollars it's a hell of alot easier for them to do it Slowly for a tiny amount than rather waxing you for a large one-time fee.

    For me I can afford to do either.

  • QuirhidQuirhid TamperePosts: 5,969Member Common
    All the posts bashing F2P are off-topic. The topic is "Why I prefer F2P" and the question is directed towards people who play F2P games.

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  • KyleranKyleran Tampa, FLPosts: 19,996Member Uncommon
    I confess, I like when F2P games sell cash shop items that provide benefits not available to non-payers. Trick is to get the price point right, most blow it by overcharging for items or by renting things to you rather than outright sales.

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  • MadnessRealmMadnessRealm Montreal, QCPosts: 2,716Member Uncommon
    Voted for Other. I play F2Ps because I'm in need of a game and I've come across a few F2Ps that could keep me entertain more so than P2Ps because they offer more diversity. Money isn't an issue, and for F2Ps that I've played long enough I sometimes spend a certain amount of money (I might spend about the price of a boxed game per year), but that's just me. I could very well keep playing without paying.

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  • curacura WarsawPosts: 950Member Uncommon
    I would pay 30$ if the game was worth it but current games arent worth any monthly fee for me.
  • VengerVenger York, PAPosts: 1,318Member
    I don't want to pay when I play I want to pay for what I play.  Your option makes is sound like a hourly fee.
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