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Corrupt panel of judges award SWTOR the overall winner of the Game Developers Choice Online Awards

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  • InFlamestwoInFlamestwo HindPosts: 662Member

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

    SWTOR is an ok game. I love the Star Wars universe but the PvE is horrible, combat is bad and quest system is old and boring, PvP is unbalanced.

    The things i like with SWTOR is the story of a few classes and the Legacy System.

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  • ignore_meignore_me Apple Valley, CAPosts: 1,987Member
    Originally posted by sleepr27
    Originally posted by Jenosyde
    Another reason why people think its OK to make terrible games. Still get rewarded for failures..

    SWTOR a terrible game? thanks for the laugh. Why can't people just say "It's a good game, just not my thing". I also don't like GW2, for me it's one of the most boring MMO's i've played. Yet i don't come here saying "this game is garbage".

    You want to know what's terrible?! I'll tell you, it's the MMO community. A bunch of spoiled brats who can't see anything improving or growing with time. 

    It's a terrible game. If SWTOR is not terrible then there is no such thing.

    Those people would be called customers. Theyre the ones who left the game by the hundreds of thousands because it's a vacuous experience.

    Also, If you think SWTOR will improve by some significant degree over time then you are falling for the same mechanism they have used for retention since launch ... baseless hope.

     

    This pat on the back by the industry amounts to giving a kid candy for bad grades in school.

    Developers feeding a schizm with the userbase do so at their peril.

    Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011

  • Sevenstar61Sevenstar61 Centreville, VAPosts: 1,690Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Karteli

    ref:

    http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/179174/Live_from_the_Game_Developers_Choice_Online_Awards.php

    Special thanks to Sevenstar61 in thread
    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/367031/page/1

    for revealing the award link.

    Among the most puzzling:

    Best New Online Game: Star Wars: The Old Republic (BioWare Austin)

    "It was a long journey to get there, and a lot of people. It's a huge game, the biggest thing I can imagine to do, this project. A lot of effort went into it." - Former executive producer Rich Vogel, who was, touchingly, brought on stage by the current team members in attendance to accept the award with them.

     

    The advisory board:

    http://www.gdconline.com/aboutgdc/advisoryboard.html

     

    A significant number of people on the board are either affiliated with EA or once were.  Rich Vogel was recently laid off from EA and dusting off his resume (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/174300/SWTORs_executive_producer_leaves_BioWare_amid_layoff_reports.php), and Gordon Walton is responsible for the alpha version of SWTOR's Hero Engine, which he said EA would finish it themselves (http://www.heroengine.com/2011/11/heroengine-meets-starwars/).  Mr. Walton left EA's subdivision BioWare in early 2011 (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/33051/BioWare_Austins_Walton_Leaves_To_Join_Playdom_Austin.php).

     

    Among the other questionable "voting" board members:


    Robert Zubek, former EA employee (http://arnetminer.org/person/robert-zubek-319979.html)

    Euguene Evans, VP & Studio GM of Mythic (EA) http://www.developconference.com/page.cfm/Action=Visitor/VisitorID=482)

    Chris Mayar, former Technical Director at EA  http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,217471/

    Min Kim, former Localization Direction at EA http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Kyung+min/Kim

    [I'll check others if I have time, gave up because 85% of them had an EA affiliation that was publicized]

     

    Others are still affiliated with EA, or were at one time.  It hardly seems fair, even though SWTOR wasn't up to par with expectations, that developers get to vote for themselves to advance their carrers, on a panel that has a significant proportion of EA influence.  Just to give themselves awards.  Journalists ran with this story, but none of which actually looked at the makeup of who was capable of the votes.

     

    What s sham to gamers.

     

    Good lesson for me to never post any links in this forum.

    I think I got enough of this forum for a long time.

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  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Arkham, VAPosts: 10,910Member

    It was an award for game developers, handed out by game developers. It like the awards for actors, handed out by actors. They're going to have a different set of criteria for what's 'good' and what's 'bad'.

    I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  • AG-VukAG-Vuk Phoenix, AZPosts: 823Member Uncommon
    Sad fact is that if you are a major player in the gaming industry , you've once worked with or for EA. Face it , it's a huge stable company that employes a lot of people on major projects. If you are any good and are noticed by them , they will hire you .  Most will rightly jump at a chance to pad their resumee's, as well as their pockets.

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  • AhnogAhnog Keller, TXPosts: 231Member Uncommon

    Your logic is flawed. You are assuming former members of EA have given up their integrity to EA. This is the worse kind of slander.

     

     

    Ahnog

    Hokey religions are no replacement for a good blaster at your side.

  • GrumpyMel2GrumpyMel2 Catskills, NYPosts: 1,832Member
    Bottom line...the only awards that REALLY matter are the ones that gamers decide to give out or withhold with thier wallets. Everything else is just smoke and noise.
  • DeeweDeewe Long Beach, CAPosts: 1,965Member
    Originally posted by lizardbones

    It was an award for game developers, handed out by game developers. It like the awards for actors, handed out by actors. They're going to have a different set of criteria for what's 'good' and what's 'bad'.

    To me the message sent isn't "the game is good" but, we developers (or should I say suits) have no clues of how to do better and are uaware (at least officially) of what games are better.

  • tiefighter25tiefighter25 Winchester, MAPosts: 937Member

    You missed Joe McDonagh of Pop Cap games, owned by EA.

    That asside, the competition was a very weak field, and included social media games.

    Most industry awards are pretty much a useless circle "something" and are only really noticed in the "arts" entertainment field. Video games are in a weird grey area between art and commerce, so it's easy to be bothered by their award choices or ignore them completely.

  • keithiankeithian Los Angeles, CAPosts: 3,042Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by sleepr27
    Originally posted by Jenosyde
    Another reason why people think its OK to make terrible games. Still get rewarded for failures..

    SWTOR a terrible game? thanks for the laugh. Why can't people just say "It's a good game, just not my thing". I also don't like GW2, for me it's one of the most boring MMO's i've played. Yet i don't come here saying "this game is garbage".

    You want to know what's terrible?! I'll tell you, it's the MMO community. A bunch of spoiled brats who can't see anything improving or growing with time. 

    +1 for the real truth.

    There Is Always Hope!

  • YizleYizle Atlanta, GAPosts: 517Member
    Originally posted by sleepr27
    Originally posted by Jenosyde
    Another reason why people think its OK to make terrible games. Still get rewarded for failures..

    SWTOR a terrible game? thanks for the laugh. Why can't people just say "It's a good game, just not my thing".

    Because we would be lying. Our original statement is correct.

  • RhoklawRhoklaw Ft. Bliss, TXPosts: 3,480Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by keithian
    Originally posted by sleepr27
    Originally posted by Jenosyde
    Another reason why people think its OK to make terrible games. Still get rewarded for failures..

    SWTOR a terrible game? thanks for the laugh. Why can't people just say "It's a good game, just not my thing". I also don't like GW2, for me it's one of the most boring MMO's i've played. Yet i don't come here saying "this game is garbage".

    You want to know what's terrible?! I'll tell you, it's the MMO community. A bunch of spoiled brats who can't see anything improving or growing with time. 

    +1 for the real truth.

    In the end we are all human with our own opinions, likes, dislikes and desires. No one MMO is going to win everyone's hearts. So theoretically every game will have fanbois and haters cause we all want something tailored to our own specific gaming fetishes.

    I for one enjoyed SWTOR during open beta but learned to hate it shortly after the first month of launch. I also endured the same disappointment with GW2 thinking it was going to replace my much missed DAoC. Honestly, I just wish game developers would make niche games instead of trying to please every single person and end up with a giant heap of crap for an MMO that no one likes.

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  • KakkzookaKakkzooka Waterbury, CTPosts: 591Member

    Where did 2/3rds of that $500 million budget go? Oh - now we now. Or, now we've been reminded.

     

    Imagine if they focused on putting that money into the game?

    Re: SWTOR

    "Remember, remember - Kakk says 'December.'"

  • starwarsnutstarwarsnut oceanside, CAPosts: 189Member

    peoples choice award

     

    Most incompetent dev of the year  gabe ametegelo!!

    Most arrogant know it all James ohlen!

    Worst priority decider james ohlen!

    Worst pvp team swtor!

    Biggest mmo failure of the year swtor!

    Mmo that lied to its customers the most this year? swtor!

    Biggest waste of a franchise IP swtor!

    biggest amount of layoffs publicized! swtor

    Fumbling of PR swtor!

    Worst server merges in history 2 times in a row swtor!

    who cares about game developers choice heres the peoples choice. I proudly give these awards it was well earned!

  • IfrianMMOIfrianMMO BarcelonaPosts: 212Member
    Words fail me.

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  • karmathkarmath Posts: 827Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by keithian
    Originally posted by sleepr27
    Originally posted by Jenosyde
    Another reason why people think its OK to make terrible games. Still get rewarded for failures..

    SWTOR a terrible game? thanks for the laugh. Why can't people just say "It's a good game, just not my thing". I also don't like GW2, for me it's one of the most boring MMO's i've played. Yet i don't come here saying "this game is garbage".

    You want to know what's terrible?! I'll tell you, it's the MMO community. A bunch of spoiled brats who can't see anything improving or growing with time. 

    +1 for the real truth.

    lol. I find it humorous that some people still blindly defend this game. Roughly 2 million people quit and is going FTP faster than 95% of any other MMO's released to date, pack that ontop of the 400 million budget, its just unfathomable how people cant get over their pride and admit they paid top dollar for a sub par, utter and complete shit game like an idiot.

  • JoeyMMOJoeyMMO SomewherePosts: 1,326Member
    So EA gives themselves a prize, who cares?

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  • zevni78zevni78 grimsbyPosts: 1,133Member Uncommon

    People seem keen to dismiss the other candidates, and though it is indeed in-keeping with Occ's razor to see them as the reason SWTOR won anything, one does have to ask questions about who gets to choose these other candidates; certainly the judges and EA's own reputation needs to be taken into account.

     

    Also last year Rift won many awards, a game many would say was mediocre, but there wasn’t much competition then either, and before that Star Trek Online was MMO of the year on various sites, so thin was the competition.

     

    One point I wish to make, for me at least Glitch disserved some recognition; it is a very nice little game and innovates far beyond any other mmo nominated.

  • dwarfhealerdwarfhealer Merced, CAPosts: 4Member

    I thought they gave it to the European Union...

  • timeraidertimeraider BredaPosts: 568Member Uncommon
    wait what... SWTOR isnt that bad as some people might suggest... but surely it isnt close to becoming prizeworthy..
    Main games: Heroes of the Storm, Starcraft 2, Brawlhalla
    Waiting for: Overwatch

  • RefMinorRefMinor MyTownPosts: 3,452Member
    Originally posted by starwarsnut

    peoples choice award

     

    Most incompetent dev of the year  gabe ametegelo!!

    Most arrogant know it all James ohlen!

    Worst priority decider james ohlen!

    Worst pvp team swtor!

    Biggest mmo failure of the year swtor!

    Mmo that lied to its customers the most this year? swtor!

    Biggest waste of a franchise IP swtor!

    biggest amount of layoffs publicized! swtor

    Fumbling of PR swtor!

    Worst server merges in history 2 times in a row swtor!

    who cares about game developers choice heres the peoples choice. I proudly give these awards it was well earned!

    LOL

  • timeraidertimeraider BredaPosts: 568Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by RefMinor
    Originally posted by starwarsnut

    peoples choice award

     

    Most incompetent dev of the year  gabe ametegelo!!

    Most arrogant know it all James ohlen!

    Worst priority decider james ohlen!

    Worst pvp team swtor!

    Biggest mmo failure of the year swtor!

    Mmo that lied to its customers the most this year? swtor!

    Biggest waste of a franchise IP swtor!

    biggest amount of layoffs publicized! swtor

    Fumbling of PR swtor!

    Worst server merges in history 2 times in a row swtor!

    who cares about game developers choice heres the peoples choice. I proudly give these awards it was well earned!

    LOL

    All the above for a third time :D

    Main games: Heroes of the Storm, Starcraft 2, Brawlhalla
    Waiting for: Overwatch

  • 3-4thElf3-4thElf Elftown, MEPosts: 489Member

    Maybe the catagory was mislabled?

    Best WoW-Clone with Voice Acting!

    I'd probably still pick Wizards 101.

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  • CujoSWAoACujoSWAoA Nooo, AKPosts: 1,781Member
    Originally posted by sleepr27
    Originally posted by Jenosyde
    Another reason why people think its OK to make terrible games. Still get rewarded for failures..

    SWTOR a terrible game? thanks for the laugh. Why can't people just say "It's a good game, just not my thing". I also don't like GW2, for me it's one of the most boring MMO's i've played. Yet i don't come here saying "this game is garbage".

    You want to know what's terrible?! I'll tell you, it's the MMO community. A bunch of spoiled brats who can't see anything improving or growing with time. 

    No, its a terrible game.

  • PilnkplonkPilnkplonk zagrebPosts: 1,532Member
    pathetic
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