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  • KarteliKarteli Providence, PAPosts: 2,646Member
    Originally posted by Sevenstar61
    Originally posted by gaou
    Originally posted by Jonoku
    that was fast, it is an improvement of making content asap but its not what I've been asking for a thousand times. out of curiosity wonder when makeb will come out, 1.6?

    doubt makeb will be in 1.6. it will likely be the new warzone:

     

    http://www.darthhater.com/articles/swtor-news/21321-gamescom-2012-interview-with-gabe-amatangelo

    He said it in an interview that there will be new content every six weeks is that something you think the team can stick to?

    Yeah, we’ve got a lot of stuff in the pipeline, and you know, at least, you can’t sit here and say a year from now, everything that’s lined up, but I can say with a pretty high level of confidence that definitely for the next foreseeable future, we’ve got a lot of stuff to release on a regular pattern. Six weeks in fact. So we’ll see the Terror from Beyond, and then shortly after, probably HK-51, or something in the Belsavis area, and then the new warzone, something along those lines.

     

    since they seemed to have both hk and the belsavis stuff in this upcoming patch, the war zone would likely be next

     

    i dont think we will see makeb this year. following 1.4, it was stated they they were planning on 3 more patches by the end of the year, so that would  get us to 1.7(assuming they can keep the schedule). my guess for 1.7 would be a new flashpoint that has been briefly hinted at(assuming 1.6 is the warzone)

     

    http://www.swtor.com/blog/welcome-game-update-1.4-terror-beyond

    This year has been exciting so far with three Game Updates. But before the end of the year, it’s our intention to have released another three Game Updates, starting with Terror From Beyond. This is in addition to moving to Free to Play. But I can say in all honesty, that our plans for 2013 are even bigger. Our team’s experience, improving tools and better production processes are allowing us to move faster in development than we ever have before. More exciting news to come!

    Most likely new Warzone will be next and then or at the same time F2P. I sort of think that F2p will be released before Xmas. They were talking about remaking Ilum in January... but dunno. Makeb might come first.

    Oh forgot about these space missions that were also leaked. It might be after Pvp warzone I guess.

    NEW SPACE MISSIONS
    http://www.torhead.com/missions/catg/9

    Ardis Outpost Fortification
    Baros Ambush
    Cha Raaba Assault
    Duma Strike
    Far Cradle Strike
    Hypori Escort
    Kabal Station Defense
    Kanz Minefield
    Lorta Escort
    New Cov Asteroid Field
    Operation Ardis Outpost Fortification
    Operation Baros Ambush
    Operation Cha Raaba Assault
    Operation Clean Sweep
    Operation Duma Strike
    Operation Far Cradle Strike
    Operation Foe-Smasher
    Operation Hypori Escort
    Operation Kabal Station Defense
    Operation Kanz Minefield
    Operation Lorta Escort
    Operation New Cov Asteroid Field
    Operation Regnant Station Assault
    Regnant Station Assault
    Space Combat: Ardis Outpost Fortification
    Space Combat: Baros Ambush
    Space Combat: Cha Raaba Assault
    Space Combat: Duma Strike
    Space Combat: Far Cradle Strike
    Space Combat: Hypori Escort
    Space Combat: Kabal Station Defense
    Space Combat: Kanz Minefield
    Space Combat: Lorta Escort
    Space Combat: New Cov Asteroid Field"
    Space Combat: Regnant Station Assault
    Space Combat: Thanium Disruption
    Thanium Disruption

    NEW VANITY PETS

    http://www.torhead.com/items/catg/4/subcatg/8/page/1

    Arctic Manka Lynx
    Black Womp Weasel
    Bloodhusk Lylek
    Blue-Speckled Gizka
    Brown Womp Weasel
    Desert Nekarr Cat
    Ebon-wing Flutterplume
    Fire-bellied Vrblet
    Flamehair Kowakian Monkey-lizard
    Forest Lizardbat
    Forest Nekarr Cat
    Gilded Flutterplume
    Golden Lizardbat
    Golden-skinned Vrblet
    Green-backed Vrblet
    Green-Spotted Gizka
    Ivory Mouse Horranth
    Jungle Manka Lynx
    Low Atmosphere Miniprobe
    Lunar Wriggler
    Lurker Blurrg
    Micro-Aggressor Droid
    Micro-Defender Droid
    Micro-Patroller Droid
    Mossy Mouse Horranth
    Mottled Blurrg
    Mountain Lizardbat
    Paradise Flutterplume
    Red-Backed Gizka
    Ruddyscale Kowakian Monkey-lizard
    Sablefur Kowakian Monkey-lizard
    Savanna Manka Lynx
    Shadow Nekarr Cat
    Slate Mouse Horranth
    Slateshard Lylek
    Speckled Blurrg
    Stellar Wriggler
    Sub-Zero Miniprobe
    Toxic Environment Miniprobe
    Tundra Nekarr Cat
    Venomcrest Lylek
    White Womp Weasel

    NEW MOUNTS
    http://www.torhead.com/items/catg/4/subcatg/0

    Ambassador's Meditation Hoverchair
    Avalanche Heavy Tank
    Desler Explorer
    Desler Nomad
    Diplomat's Meditation Hoverchair
    Dominator's Command Throne
    Overlord's Command Throne
    Praxon Aether
    Praxon Firaxa
    Praxon Trackmaster
    Shadow Hand's Command Throne
    Tirsa Champion
    Watchman's Meditation Hoverchair

     

    I really want to see how this Avalanche Heavy Tank will look. LOL

     

    Bizarre.  Did EA put this stuff in just to give hope to players?  I mean that many operations, as listed, is a 5-10 year plan....

     

    Nothing was ever talked about, but I sure wish they would go in a different direction and put in stuff that just screams Star Wars or KotOR.  More instanced encounters is not what is wanted (at least not by me).  More story, minigames, social games, 3D space, and stuff that breaks the mold is needed.  Operations, more quests, more instances, more solo instanced space combat, and more instanced PVP  just says more of the same (boo).

     

    But thanks for the link, it is interesting.

    Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
    Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  • RefMinorRefMinor MyTownPosts: 3,452Member
    Originally posted by Sevenstar61
    Originally posted by Phry
    Originally posted by Sevenstar61

    Pretty excited that they push updates as promised:)

     

    Just found it today .

    SWTOR dominates Game Developers Choice Online Awards

     

    And the winners are.....

    Winners List:

    Best Social Game - Draw Something
    Best Online Game Design - Star Wars: The Old Republic, Bioware Austin
    Best Community Relations - League of Legends
    Best Audio for an Online Game - Diablo III, Blizzard
    Best Online Visual Arts: Star Wars: The Old Republic, BioWare Austin
    Online Innovation Award: Journey, thatgamecompany
    Audience Award: League of Legends, Riot
    Best Online Technology Award: Star Wars: The Old Republic, BioWare Austin
    Best Live Game Award: League of Legends, Riot
    Best New Online Game: Star Wars: The Old Republic, BioWare Austin

    With four wins, Star Wars: The Old Republic dominated the awards ceremony tonight, with League of Legends having three wins. Congratulations to all the winners, and all the nominees for being recognized for their hard work. It's not always easy trying to entertain the world, but these companies are obviously doing something right.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/swtor-dominates-game-developers-choice-online-awards

    http://gdconlineawards.com/

    It would probably have sounded better if it came from something people had actually heard of, or had some kind of legitimacy with the online gaming scene even.  i mean, game designers choice ?? seriously..  image

    It happened that developers were chosing awards :) I just mentioned it because I found it today. I guess developers appreciate what BioWare created, and I read this that way.  

     

    Edit: So developers who create games do not have any legitimacy with the online gaming?

    If the "best new" and "best design" winner is a game that went from the IP selling 2.4m boxes to the game losing 90% of the players and going Free to Play in less than year, then you really have to question the judges competence, they obviously feel the best game is one the consumers trampled each other to death to get out of.

  • tiefighter25tiefighter25 Winchester, MAPosts: 937Member
    Originally posted by smh_alot
    Originally posted by Zylaxx
    Originally posted by tiefighter25

    I'm happy for SWTOR's subscriber base that Bioware is finally begining to release new content.

    The fact that they have either been sitting or tinkering with the content since February is unsettling.

    http://www.torhead.com/guide/leak-1.3 Leaked Feb. 3rd 2012

    Pretty much this. I mean WoW releases a content patch on the average of 1 per every 9 months and if a struggling game like SWTOR cant even beat them, then its time to turn off the servers IMO.

     

    ? Lol. Besides it meaning that in your eyes the majority of MMO's can easily be turned off (there are enough that can't equal WoW in content updates, even if they're doing it laid back), iirc BW has released other content updates over the past 9 months as well. It isn't on the level of a WoW, but not nearly as struggling as some here hope/wish for it to be.

    What I was alluding to was that there was only one content patch before EA decided to switch to FTP (iirc patch 1.1 and 1.3 were not content patches) in the spring. (Announced ~August 1st). Prior to the descion to switch to FTP, Bioware has planned on combating lowered subscription rates by aggresively pumping out new content. (When they anounced they would be realeasing major content updates at a monthly rate.) The leaks for the content Bioware was working on, and are now just begining to find their way live, came out in early February of this year. What's more, the content that was previously slated to release in meaty patches that consisted of an operation, a flashpoint, and a warzone, etc.; are now being broken up into much smaller 6 week pieces. An operation in one patch, a companion in another patch, a warzaone in another patch, etc. As someone just posted, a lot of what they've been working on lately is vanity pets and speciality mounts. Guess where they will end up.

    I'm pointing out that this content (1.4, 1.5) has been worked on to near completion in the spring (the HK questline was in the beta) , and either EA has been sitting on and stockpiling  the content to coincide with the FTP launch, or EA's deep cuts to the development staff as prevented Bioware from being able to release the mostly finished content to the live servers.

    Either way, it doesn't seem very fair to their subscribers. In essence, SWTOR's sub base has been funding a conversion to FTP. I guess you could say it's one of the darker aspects of a game that converts to freemium post launch, especially a game with a much reduced staff.

  • SuperXero89SuperXero89 Amory, MSPosts: 2,544Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Karteli

     

    Nobody is asking for SWTOR to fail,

     

    Oh yes they are.  TES Online is kinda getting the same treatment right now as well.

  • tiefighter25tiefighter25 Winchester, MAPosts: 937Member
    Originally posted by Sevenstar61
    Originally posted by Phry
    Originally posted by Sevenstar61

    Pretty excited that they push updates as promised:)

     

    Just found it today .

    SWTOR dominates Game Developers Choice Online Awards

     

    And the winners are.....

    Winners List:

    Best Social Game - Draw Something
    Best Online Game Design - Star Wars: The Old Republic, Bioware Austin
    Best Community Relations - League of Legends
    Best Audio for an Online Game - Diablo III, Blizzard
    Best Online Visual Arts: Star Wars: The Old Republic, BioWare Austin
    Online Innovation Award: Journey, thatgamecompany
    Audience Award: League of Legends, Riot
    Best Online Technology Award: Star Wars: The Old Republic, BioWare Austin
    Best Live Game Award: League of Legends, Riot
    Best New Online Game: Star Wars: The Old Republic, BioWare Austin

    With four wins, Star Wars: The Old Republic dominated the awards ceremony tonight, with League of Legends having three wins. Congratulations to all the winners, and all the nominees for being recognized for their hard work. It's not always easy trying to entertain the world, but these companies are obviously doing something right.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/swtor-dominates-game-developers-choice-online-awards

    http://gdconlineawards.com/

    It would probably have sounded better if it came from something people had actually heard of, or had some kind of legitimacy with the online gaming scene even.  i mean, game designers choice ?? seriously..  image

    It happened that developers were chosing awards :) I just mentioned it because I found it today. I guess developers appreciate what BioWare created, and I read this that way.  

     

    Edit: So developers who create games do not have any legitimacy with the online gaming?

    Since people were wondering, the people who decide who wins the awards are as committee of the following individuals:

    http://gdconlineawards.com/advisory/index.html

    16 game developers, 3 of which who work for EA including Richard Vogel and Eugene Evans of Bioware.

    And no, they can't recuse themsleves.

    Then again, I was not elected to watch my people suffer and die while you discuss this invasion in a committee!

    Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck.

  • KarteliKarteli Providence, PAPosts: 2,646Member
    Originally posted by tiefighter25
    Originally posted by Sevenstar61
    Originally posted by Phry
    Originally posted by Sevenstar61

    Pretty excited that they push updates as promised:)

     

    Just found it today .

    SWTOR dominates Game Developers Choice Online Awards

     

    And the winners are.....

    Winners List:

    Best Social Game - Draw Something
    Best Online Game Design - Star Wars: The Old Republic, Bioware Austin
    Best Community Relations - League of Legends
    Best Audio for an Online Game - Diablo III, Blizzard
    Best Online Visual Arts: Star Wars: The Old Republic, BioWare Austin
    Online Innovation Award: Journey, thatgamecompany
    Audience Award: League of Legends, Riot
    Best Online Technology Award: Star Wars: The Old Republic, BioWare Austin
    Best Live Game Award: League of Legends, Riot
    Best New Online Game: Star Wars: The Old Republic, BioWare Austin

    With four wins, Star Wars: The Old Republic dominated the awards ceremony tonight, with League of Legends having three wins. Congratulations to all the winners, and all the nominees for being recognized for their hard work. It's not always easy trying to entertain the world, but these companies are obviously doing something right.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/swtor-dominates-game-developers-choice-online-awards

    http://gdconlineawards.com/

    It would probably have sounded better if it came from something people had actually heard of, or had some kind of legitimacy with the online gaming scene even.  i mean, game designers choice ?? seriously..  image

    It happened that developers were chosing awards :) I just mentioned it because I found it today. I guess developers appreciate what BioWare created, and I read this that way.  

     

    Edit: So developers who create games do not have any legitimacy with the online gaming?

    Since people were wondering, the people who decide who wins the awards are as committee of the following individuals:

    http://gdconlineawards.com/advisory/index.html

    16 game developers, 3 of which who work for EA including Richard Vogel and Eugene Evans of Bioware.

    And no, they can't recuse themsleves.

    Then again, I was not elected to watch my people suffer and die while you discuss this invasion in a committee!

    Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck.

    Rich Vogel is dusting off his resume, so I imagine an award like this would only benefit him..

     

    The other EA dev's would also vote for themselves, as it would benefit their careers.  What an insult to gamers.  Gaming journalists should be ashamed :/

     

    Gordon Walton is also in the list.  He is the one responsible for blessing everyone with the alpha version of the Hero Engine, which he said EA engineers could finish themselves.  Wow, what a corrupt panel of judges :P

     

    Heres a graphical representation of all on the board:

    http://www.gdconline.com/aboutgdc/advisoryboard.html

    Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
    Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  • Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by Sevenstar61
    Originally posted by gaou
    Originally posted by Jonoku
    that was fast, it is an improvement of making content asap but its not what I've been asking for a thousand times. out of curiosity wonder when makeb will come out, 1.6?

    doubt makeb will be in 1.6. it will likely be the new warzone:

     

    http://www.darthhater.com/articles/swtor-news/21321-gamescom-2012-interview-with-gabe-amatangelo

    He said it in an interview that there will be new content every six weeks is that something you think the team can stick to?

    Yeah, we’ve got a lot of stuff in the pipeline, and you know, at least, you can’t sit here and say a year from now, everything that’s lined up, but I can say with a pretty high level of confidence that definitely for the next foreseeable future, we’ve got a lot of stuff to release on a regular pattern. Six weeks in fact. So we’ll see the Terror from Beyond, and then shortly after, probably HK-51, or something in the Belsavis area, and then the new warzone, something along those lines.

     

    since they seemed to have both hk and the belsavis stuff in this upcoming patch, the war zone would likely be next

     

    i dont think we will see makeb this year. following 1.4, it was stated they they were planning on 3 more patches by the end of the year, so that would  get us to 1.7(assuming they can keep the schedule). my guess for 1.7 would be a new flashpoint that has been briefly hinted at(assuming 1.6 is the warzone)

     

    http://www.swtor.com/blog/welcome-game-update-1.4-terror-beyond

    This year has been exciting so far with three Game Updates. But before the end of the year, it’s our intention to have released another three Game Updates, starting with Terror From Beyond. This is in addition to moving to Free to Play. But I can say in all honesty, that our plans for 2013 are even bigger. Our team’s experience, improving tools and better production processes are allowing us to move faster in development than we ever have before. More exciting news to come!

    Most likely new Warzone will be next and then or at the same time F2P. I sort of think that F2p will be released before Xmas. They were talking about remaking Ilum in January... but dunno. Makeb might come first.

    Oh forgot about these space missions that were also leaked. It might be after Pvp warzone I guess.

    NEW SPACE MISSIONS
    http://www.torhead.com/missions/catg/9

    Ardis Outpost Fortification
    Baros Ambush
    Cha Raaba Assault
    Duma Strike
    Far Cradle Strike
    Hypori Escort
    Kabal Station Defense
    Kanz Minefield
    Lorta Escort
    New Cov Asteroid Field
    Operation Ardis Outpost Fortification
    Operation Baros Ambush
    Operation Cha Raaba Assault
    Operation Clean Sweep
    Operation Duma Strike
    Operation Far Cradle Strike
    Operation Foe-Smasher
    Operation Hypori Escort
    Operation Kabal Station Defense
    Operation Kanz Minefield
    Operation Lorta Escort
    Operation New Cov Asteroid Field
    Operation Regnant Station Assault
    Regnant Station Assault
    Space Combat: Ardis Outpost Fortification
    Space Combat: Baros Ambush
    Space Combat: Cha Raaba Assault
    Space Combat: Duma Strike
    Space Combat: Far Cradle Strike
    Space Combat: Hypori Escort
    Space Combat: Kabal Station Defense
    Space Combat: Kanz Minefield
    Space Combat: Lorta Escort
    Space Combat: New Cov Asteroid Field"
    Space Combat: Regnant Station Assault
    Space Combat: Thanium Disruption
    Thanium Disruption

     

     

    I really want to see how this Avalanche Heavy Tank will look. LOL

     

    Bizarre.  Did EA put this stuff in just to give hope to players?  I mean that many operations, as listed, is a 5-10 year plan....

     

    Nothing was ever talked about, but I sure wish they would go in a different direction and put in stuff that just screams Star Wars or KotOR.  More instanced encounters is not what is wanted (at least not by me).  More story, minigames, social games, 3D space, and stuff that breaks the mold is needed.  Operations, more quests, more instances, more solo instanced space combat, and more instanced PVP  just says more of the same (boo).

     

    But thanks for the link, it is interesting.

    those arent operations as in raids.  those are space mission quests that are repeatable weekly

     

    as for ilum, i don think it it is so much them remaking it as them having a plan for an event that is going to happen there

     

    Next one, very recent, yesterday The Grand Acquisition Race came online. Anything you can tell about world events? Are they coming more often or, just every few months, every year?

    Our long-term plan is to get the world events to be really frequent, and we’re going to continue to add them to the game. In the immediate future, we have this one, and then we’ve got another one that is actually going to be – so we’re going to have, what we want to do, is in January, what we’re targeting to do, this may or may not happen, so you can’t hold me to it. But what we’re targeting to do, is have a fun anniversary to the Ilum shenanigans that happened. An alien race might invade, and they might crash into Ilum and there might be some new activities that happen on the planet. We’re targeting that for, January is when we’d like to see it, but we’ll see when it happens, you can’t hold me to that! I know how everyone does, and then I’m going to have the Executive Producer on me saying “you said a date!” and it’s like “no, no” but that is our target, because that’s when we’d like to have it because of the spirit of, and just sort of laughing at what happened.

  • SendenSenden PrivatePosts: 593Member

    1.6: A Brand New World

     

    Instead of spending our time wasting resources in creating brand new shallow content nobody asked for, we finally decide after a good few years of the suggestion to focus on creating a more immersive world. No longer will you see NPCs standing around doing nothing but filling an empty space.

     

    -  NPCS now offer a broad range of different conversations, movement routes and ultimately come to life

    -  Soldier patrols in various different zones including random enagements between republic and imp forces

    - Active random real world events taking place everywhere that people can participate in

    -  random class specific dailies that can be located on every world  that lets smugglers smuggle, bhs hunt etc

    - All new pvp zones similar to illum that can be found on various different worlds that offer objective based pvp

     

    There, announce that EA/BW and you might actually have created new content worthy of people to give this game another look. Keep failing at the WoW clone rubbish though.

  • halflife25halflife25 Toronto, ONPosts: 737Member
    Originally posted by Karteli

    More missions, and instanced stuff.  HK51 didn't excite me even back to it's original announcement.  MMkay then, another patch of stuff that nobody was asking for in the many threads of how to improve SWTOR :/

     

    The people still playing would enjoy this, but population isn't high enough to continue to support this game, and the stuff that would bring players back is always somehow missing from patch notes ... Boo EA.

    i am glad that entire SWTOR community chose you to speak on their behalf. You must feel really important.

  • SendenSenden PrivatePosts: 593Member
    Originally posted by halflife25
    Originally posted by Karteli

    More missions, and instanced stuff.  HK51 didn't excite me even back to it's original announcement.  MMkay then, another patch of stuff that nobody was asking for in the many threads of how to improve SWTOR :/

     

    The people still playing would enjoy this, but population isn't high enough to continue to support this game, and the stuff that would bring players back is always somehow missing from patch notes ... Boo EA.

    i am glad that entire SWTOR community chose you to speak on their behalf. You must feel really important.

    And what percentage of that "community" make up the total number of people who bought the game?   Karteli is merely pointing out that once again, EA have failed to grasp and put resources into bringing in features that might entice old players back.

  • halflife25halflife25 Toronto, ONPosts: 737Member
    Originally posted by Senden
    Originally posted by halflife25
    Originally posted by Karteli

    More missions, and instanced stuff.  HK51 didn't excite me even back to it's original announcement.  MMkay then, another patch of stuff that nobody was asking for in the many threads of how to improve SWTOR :/

     

    The people still playing would enjoy this, but population isn't high enough to continue to support this game, and the stuff that would bring players back is always somehow missing from patch notes ... Boo EA.

    i am glad that entire SWTOR community chose you to speak on their behalf. You must feel really important.

    And what percentage of that "community" make up the total number of people who bought the game?   Karteli is merely pointing out that once again, EA have failed to grasp and put resources into bringing in features that might entice old players back.

    it is lways better to talk about your own experinces or expectations instead of trying to speak on behalf of others by using words like 'many' or 'no body'. it is a very old trick to give more weight to your opinion.

    But if that is how you want to play it.  

    This is another patch of stuff that 'everybody' was asking for in the many threads on how to improve the SWTOR. 

    Now i hope you support what i said too.

    *grins*

     

  • JobeArthurJobeArthur seattle, WAPosts: 38Member
    Originally posted by Sevenstar61

    Pretty excited that they push updates as promised:)

     

    Just found it today .

    SWTOR dominates Game Developers Choice Online Awards

     

    And the winners are.....

    Winners List:

    Best Social Game - Draw Something
    Best Online Game Design - Star Wars: The Old Republic, Bioware Austin
    Best Community Relations - League of Legends
    Best Audio for an Online Game - Diablo III, Blizzard
    Best Online Visual Arts: Star Wars: The Old Republic, BioWare Austin
    Online Innovation Award: Journey, thatgamecompany
    Audience Award: League of Legends, Riot
    Best Online Technology Award: Star Wars: The Old Republic, BioWare Austin
    Best Live Game Award: League of Legends, Riot
    Best New Online Game: Star Wars: The Old Republic, BioWare Austin

    With four wins, Star Wars: The Old Republic dominated the awards ceremony tonight, with League of Legends having three wins. Congratulations to all the winners, and all the nominees for being recognized for their hard work. It's not always easy trying to entertain the world, but these companies are obviously doing something right.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/swtor-dominates-game-developers-choice-online-awards

    http://gdconlineawards.com/

    Ill Just leave this here..

     

    Warhammer Online has received the following awards:[39]
    [edit]
    2008
    IGN PC: Best of E3 2008-Best MMO
    IGN PC: 2008 Best Persistent World Game
    IGN PC: 2008 Reader's Choice
    Game Focus – Best MMO Game/ Expansion
    GameSpy: Best of E3 2008
    GameSpy: Best Use of License
    GameSpy: Top 10 PC Games – Ranked #2
    GameStooge – Best Massively Multiplayer Roleplaying Game
    G4TV: Best of E3 – PC
    Massively – Favorite New MMO of 2008
    MMORPG.com – Reader's Choice Awards – Best New Game of 2008
    MMORPG.com – Reader's Choice Awards – Most Innovative Feature
    MSNBC – Best PC games of 2008
    Voodoo Extreme: E3 2008 – Best MMO
    Warcry's Editor's Choice: Most Anticipated of 2008
    X-Play: Best MMO
    [edit]
    2007
    Ten Ton Hammer: Best Fantasy MMOG
    Ten Ton Hammer: Best of Show
    Beckett Massive Online Game Reader's Choice Award: Most Anticipated MMO
    Warcry's Editor's Choice: 2007's Most Anticipated
    MMORPG.com Readers Choice: Most Anticipated
    [edit]
    E3 2006
    MMORPG.com: Best Use Of A License
    Game Amp: Best of Show
    Game Amp: Best Loot
    Game Daily Nod Award
    Voodoo Extreme: Best Massively Multiplayer Game
    GameSpot Editor's Choice: Best Stage Demo
    Ten Ton Hammer Editor's Choice Award

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_Online:_Age_of_Reckoning

     

     

    Its all nice that they won those awards and such but really it just doesn't matter.

    As for 1.5 being on the PTS, thats cool and everything and hope they can pull it off but they haven't even fixed a lot bugs from 1.4 yet. This could yet be another Bioware disaster in the making, bugs from 1.4 and soon 1.5 and the FTP conversion. I hope for the sake logic that 1.5 is on the PTS for extensive testing only, but giving Biowares track record i would be pretty nervous if i was a current player who is planning on staying after ftp.

     

  • DraronDraron A town in, KYPosts: 993Member
    Originally posted by Senkensha

    Sure, it's a themepark, does that make it like WoW?  If you expected a non-story driven game sandbox and you bought a Bioware title, you're just silly.

    This. When I read a post saying "This is what Star Wars fans want", I have to sigh. It's a Bioware game, of course it's going to be a directed story experience. For those that wanted something else, that's understandable, as is expecting features that would be reasonable in this type of MMO. But saying each patch isn't giving what you want when the game's foundation isn't what you want is like beating a head horse. 

    On topic, it's a nice patch if they're sticking to there 6 week update schedule. If they go months again without updating, then I have to say this would be a dissapointment. 

  • KarteliKarteli Providence, PAPosts: 2,646Member
    Originally posted by Draron
    Originally posted by Senkensha

    Sure, it's a themepark, does that make it like WoW?  If you expected a non-story driven game sandbox and you bought a Bioware title, you're just silly.

    This. When I read a post saying "This is what Star Wars fans want", I have to sigh. It's a Bioware game, of course it's going to be a directed story experience. For those that wanted something else, that's understandable, as is expecting features that would be reasonable in this type of MMO. But saying each patch isn't giving what you want when the game's foundation isn't what you want is like beating a head horse. 

    On topic, it's a nice patch if they're sticking to there 6 week update schedule. If they go months again without updating, then I have to say this would be a dissapointment. 

    Nobody around here is saying they want SWTOR to be like WoW?  Or did I miss something..

     

    The poster, Senkensha, made a general (arguably irrational & without cause to the quoted reference) statement that people somehow wanted WoW.  I don't think they did, hence why so many left, when they found out SWTOR was too much like WoW.

     

    So .. This isn't what SW fans wanted, it's just someones accusations, without justification.  Don't sweat it.

     

    6 week schedule is definitely positive.  Although 1.5 will be the first in the cycle, so I'll believe it when I see it .. yet I wonder if EA can keep it up, once all the previously developed content gets released (with what was known about way before vs. what is coming).

     

    Space flight, minigames?  Next year .. maybe?  Was development started?

    Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
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    Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  • DraronDraron A town in, KYPosts: 993Member
    Originally posted by Karteli

    Nobody around here is saying they want SWTOR to be like WoW?  Or did I miss something..

    By this, I meant:

    Originally posted by Senkensha                                                                                                    If you expected a non-story driven game sandbox and you bought a Bioware title, you're just silly.
    Those requesting heavy sandbox elements are always going to be dissapointed, it's just not that type of game.
  • KarteliKarteli Providence, PAPosts: 2,646Member
    Originally posted by Draron
    Originally posted by Karteli

    Nobody around here is saying they want SWTOR to be like WoW?  Or did I miss something..

    By this, I meant the 

     

    Originally posted by Senkensha
      If you expected a non-story driven game sandbox and you bought a Bioware title, you're just silly.

    (In Red.)  Which appears to be a random comment (or the poster didn't bother reading).   Did anyone actually expect a non-story driven game?  Not in this thread.  SWTOR is, after all, a BioWare game, even if owned by EA.

     

    Originally it was just someones random venting without cause or citation.  Quoting it is pointless, as the quote never pertained to any portion of the conversation in this thread, and quoting it only serves to derail a thread.

     

    Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
    Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  • DraronDraron A town in, KYPosts: 993Member
    Originally posted by Karteli

    (In Red.)  Which appears to be a random comment (or the poster didn't bother reading).   Did anyone actually expect a non-story driven game?  Not in this thread.  SWTOR is, after all, a BioWare game, even if owned by EA.

     

    Originally it was just someones random venting without cause or citation.  Quoting it is pointless, as the quote never pertained to any portion of the conversation in this thread, and quoting it only serves to derail a thread.

    Not random, far from it. It was mostly rose up from just reading the comments in this article. A lot of people excpect them to toss in SWG like features when it wouldn't fit.

  • KarteliKarteli Providence, PAPosts: 2,646Member
    Originally posted by Draron
    Originally posted by Karteli

    (In Red.)  Which appears to be a random comment (or the poster didn't bother reading).   Did anyone actually expect a non-story driven game?  Not in this thread.  SWTOR is, after all, a BioWare game, even if owned by EA.

     

    Originally it was just someones random venting without cause or citation.  Quoting it is pointless, as the quote never pertained to any portion of the conversation in this thread, and quoting it only serves to derail a thread.

    Not random, far from it. It was mostly rose up from just reading the comments in this article. A lot of people excpect them to toss in SWG like features when it wouldn't fit.

    So if this thread was about guild halls, and someone interjects, saying, "Space combat sucks".  Then that wasn't random either, right?  Because it's talked about in another thread.

     

    Brilliant, sir!

     

    Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
    Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  • DraronDraron A town in, KYPosts: 993Member
    Originally posted by Karteli

    So if this thread was about guild halls, and someone interjects, saying, "Space combat sucks".  Then that wasn't random either, right?  Because it's talked about in another thread.

     

    Brilliant, sir!

    Of course not. You must've missed this part of my post:

    Originally posted by Draron

    On topic, it's a nice patch if they're sticking to there 6 week update schedule. If they go months again without updating, then I have to say this would be a dissapointment. 

    Surely I can go off topic part of my post and agree with a poster mentioning they shouldn't expect a non-story driven game from Bioware, can't I? Just as you went off topic with this conversation and most of your other posts above replying to off topic subjects the same as I did, no? 

    You're trying too hard.

  • KarteliKarteli Providence, PAPosts: 2,646Member
    Originally posted by Draron
    Originally posted by Karteli

    So if this thread was about guild halls, and someone interjects, saying, "Space combat sucks".  Then that wasn't random either, right?  Because it's talked about in another thread.

     

    Brilliant, sir!

    Of course not. You must've missed this part of my post:

    Originally posted by Draron

    On topic, it's a nice patch if they're sticking to there 6 week update schedule. If they go months again without updating, then I have to say this would be a dissapointment. 

    Surely I can go off topic part of my post and agree with a poster mentioning they shouldn't expect a non-story driven game from Bioware, can't I? Just as you went off topic with this conversation and most of your other posts above replying to off topic subjects the same as I did, no? 

    Your trying too hard.

    Well, I see what you mean, it's cool.  You simply did not fully read the responses in the thread and just responded to the one about people wanting WoW.  You picked the most contentious topic though, lol. Good job :-)

     

    I can only hope that was not your intent..:P

    Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
    Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  • DraronDraron A town in, KYPosts: 993Member
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by Draron
    Originally posted by Karteli

    So if this thread was about guild halls, and someone interjects, saying, "Space combat sucks".  Then that wasn't random either, right?  Because it's talked about in another thread.

     

    Brilliant, sir!

    Of course not. You must've missed this part of my post:

    Originally posted by Draron

    On topic, it's a nice patch if they're sticking to there 6 week update schedule. If they go months again without updating, then I have to say this would be a dissapointment. 

    Surely I can go off topic part of my post and agree with a poster mentioning they shouldn't expect a non-story driven game from Bioware, can't I? Just as you went off topic with this conversation and most of your other posts above replying to off topic subjects the same as I did, no? 

    Your trying too hard.

    Well, I see what you mean, it's cool.  You simply did not fully read the responses in the thread and just responded to the one about people wanting WoW.  You picked the most contentious topic though, lol. Good job :-)

     

    I can only hope that was not your intent..:P

    I didn't respond to the WoW comment. I had that part of the quote in there, yes, but my comment was entirely about some wanting sandbox features in SWTOR and was the opposite of if people wanted WoW in SWTOR. That should've hinted rather bluntly at what I was implying. Of course, you can nitpick, but it reduces you to grasping at straws so to speak.

  • KarteliKarteli Providence, PAPosts: 2,646Member
    Originally posted by Draron
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by Draron
    Originally posted by Karteli

    So if this thread was about guild halls, and someone interjects, saying, "Space combat sucks".  Then that wasn't random either, right?  Because it's talked about in another thread.

     

    Brilliant, sir!

    Of course not. You must've missed this part of my post:

    Originally posted by Draron

    On topic, it's a nice patch if they're sticking to there 6 week update schedule. If they go months again without updating, then I have to say this would be a dissapointment. 

    Surely I can go off topic part of my post and agree with a poster mentioning they shouldn't expect a non-story driven game from Bioware, can't I? Just as you went off topic with this conversation and most of your other posts above replying to off topic subjects the same as I did, no? 

    Your trying too hard.

    Well, I see what you mean, it's cool.  You simply did not fully read the responses in the thread and just responded to the one about people wanting WoW.  You picked the most contentious topic though, lol. Good job :-)

     

    I can only hope that was not your intent..:P

    I didn't respond to the WoW comment. I had that part of the quote in there, yes, but my comment was entirely about some wanting sandbox features in SWTOR and was the opposite of if people wanted WoW in SWTOR. That should've hinted rather bluntly at what I was implying. Of course, you can nitpick, but it reduces you to grasping at straws so to speak.

     

    Yes, you did respond to the WoW comment.  Here was your original post:

     

    Originally posted by Draron
    Originally posted by Senkensha

    Sure, it's a themepark, does that make it like WoW?  If you expected a non-story driven game sandbox and you bought a Bioware title, you're just silly.

    This. When I read a post saying "This is what Star Wars fans want", I have to sigh. It's a Bioware game, of course it's going to be a directed story experience. For those that wanted something else, that's understandable, as is expecting features that would be reasonable in this type of MMO. But saying each patch isn't giving what you want when the game's foundation isn't what you want is like beating a head horse. 

    On topic, it's a nice patch if they're sticking to there 6 week update schedule. If they go months again without updating, then I have to say this would be a dissapointment. 

    The Original post in ORANGE, and your post in GREEN.

    Perhaps we're on the same page though, eh?  We wan't a Star Wars MMO game.  My point was only that people generally did not want a WoW clone.  The OP (Senkensha) instigated the idea and you jumped on it.  There is no grasping for straws, as this is what it is.  Good enough?

    Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
    Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  • DraronDraron A town in, KYPosts: 993Member
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by Draron
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by Draron
    Originally posted by Karteli

    So if this thread was about guild halls, and someone interjects, saying, "Space combat sucks".  Then that wasn't random either, right?  Because it's talked about in another thread.

     

    Brilliant, sir!

    Of course not. You must've missed this part of my post:

    Originally posted by Draron

    On topic, it's a nice patch if they're sticking to there 6 week update schedule. If they go months again without updating, then I have to say this would be a dissapointment. 

    Surely I can go off topic part of my post and agree with a poster mentioning they shouldn't expect a non-story driven game from Bioware, can't I? Just as you went off topic with this conversation and most of your other posts above replying to off topic subjects the same as I did, no? 

    Your trying too hard.

    Well, I see what you mean, it's cool.  You simply did not fully read the responses in the thread and just responded to the one about people wanting WoW.  You picked the most contentious topic though, lol. Good job :-)

     

    I can only hope that was not your intent..:P

    I didn't respond to the WoW comment. I had that part of the quote in there, yes, but my comment was entirely about some wanting sandbox features in SWTOR and was the opposite of if people wanted WoW in SWTOR. That should've hinted rather bluntly at what I was implying. Of course, you can nitpick, but it reduces you to grasping at straws so to speak.

     

    Yes, you did respond to the WoW comment.  Here was your original post:

     

    Originally posted by Draron
    Originally posted by Senkensha

    Sure, it's a themepark, does that make it like WoW?  If you expected a non-story driven game sandbox and you bought a Bioware title, you're just silly.

    This. When I read a post saying "This is what Star Wars fans want", I have to sigh. It's a Bioware game, of course it's going to be a directed story experience. For those that wanted something else, that's understandable, as is expecting features that would be reasonable in this type of MMO. But saying each patch isn't giving what you want when the game's foundation isn't what you want is like beating a head horse. 

    On topic, it's a nice patch if they're sticking to there 6 week update schedule. If they go months again without updating, then I have to say this would be a dissapointment. 

    The Original post in ORANGE, and your post in GREEN.

    Perhaps we're on the same page though, eh?  We wan't a Star Wars MMO game.  My point was only that people generally did not want a WoW clone.  The OP (Senkensha) instigated the idea and you jumped on it.  There is no grasping for straws, as this is what it is.  Good enough?

    You don't get it do you? By responding, I meant agreeing with that part of the post. My post obviously shows I'm agreeing with the "If you expected a non-story driven game sandbox and you bought a Bioware title, you're just silly." part. I mentioned nothing about the WoW part because I obviously wasn't responding to it. Again, you let a part of a post I quoted infer I jumped on it when I didn't even mention it AT ALL in my post. That's grasping at straws. There's no need to clarify where we stand, as your making something out of nothing. 

  • KarteliKarteli Providence, PAPosts: 2,646Member
    Originally posted by Draron
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by Draron
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by Draron
    Originally posted by Karteli

    So if this thread was about guild halls, and someone interjects, saying, "Space combat sucks".  Then that wasn't random either, right?  Because it's talked about in another thread.

     

    Brilliant, sir!

    Of course not. You must've missed this part of my post:

    Originally posted by Draron

    On topic, it's a nice patch if they're sticking to there 6 week update schedule. If they go months again without updating, then I have to say this would be a dissapointment. 

    Surely I can go off topic part of my post and agree with a poster mentioning they shouldn't expect a non-story driven game from Bioware, can't I? Just as you went off topic with this conversation and most of your other posts above replying to off topic subjects the same as I did, no? 

    Your trying too hard.

    Well, I see what you mean, it's cool.  You simply did not fully read the responses in the thread and just responded to the one about people wanting WoW.  You picked the most contentious topic though, lol. Good job :-)

     

    I can only hope that was not your intent..:P

    I didn't respond to the WoW comment. I had that part of the quote in there, yes, but my comment was entirely about some wanting sandbox features in SWTOR and was the opposite of if people wanted WoW in SWTOR. That should've hinted rather bluntly at what I was implying. Of course, you can nitpick, but it reduces you to grasping at straws so to speak.

     

    Yes, you did respond to the WoW comment.  Here was your original post:

     

    Originally posted by Draron
    Originally posted by Senkensha

    Sure, it's a themepark, does that make it like WoW?  If you expected a non-story driven game sandbox and you bought a Bioware title, you're just silly.

    This. When I read a post saying "This is what Star Wars fans want", I have to sigh. It's a Bioware game, of course it's going to be a directed story experience. For those that wanted something else, that's understandable, as is expecting features that would be reasonable in this type of MMO. But saying each patch isn't giving what you want when the game's foundation isn't what you want is like beating a head horse. 

    On topic, it's a nice patch if they're sticking to there 6 week update schedule. If they go months again without updating, then I have to say this would be a dissapointment. 

    The Original post in ORANGE, and your post in GREEN.

    Perhaps we're on the same page though, eh?  We wan't a Star Wars MMO game.  My point was only that people generally did not want a WoW clone.  The OP (Senkensha) instigated the idea and you jumped on it.  There is no grasping for straws, as this is what it is.  Good enough?

    You don't get it do you? By responding, I meant agreeing with that part of the post. My post obviously shows I'm agreeing with the "If you expected a non-story driven game sandbox and you bought a Bioware title, you're just silly." part. Again, grasping at straws. There's no need to clarify where we stand, as your making something out of nothing. 

    Funny, you never mention sandbox, eh?  You do mention BioWare story driven games, which are entirely THEMEPARK.  Your post is in RED now, so it can be clearly highlighted.

     

    You seem to be flipping to whichever side suits your argument.  BioWare is not known for sandbox games.  Maybe you meant something else? :P

    Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
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  • DraronDraron A town in, KYPosts: 993Member
    Originally posted by Karteli

    Funny, you never mention sandbox, eh?  You do mention BioWare story driven games, which are entirely THEMEPARK.  Your post is in RED now, so it can be clearly highlighted.

     

    You seem to be flipping to whichever side suits your argument.  BioWare is not known for sandbox games.  Maybe you meant something else? :P

    What? Can we get a 3rd party in here to make sure I or Karteli isn't reading this wrong, because I'm literally confused. 

    I quoted something that mentioned people wanting WoW in the post, but I mentioned nothing about it because I didn't agree with it. I only agreed with the part that said if someone expected a game that was non-story driven (sandbox features in the article I linked earlier) from Bioware was silly. You said I was off topic and it was random, which it obviously wasn't as someone brought it up in this thread and I responded in one of my on topic posts as you did several times already. I never implied people wanted SWTOR to be WoW in my post. What's not to understand?

    Edit: Nevermind, your just nitpicking about a single word now when it obviously was meant as non-story driven. When it comes down to that, I know to end it and not drag it out any longer. I'll save this thread from further de-railment.

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