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Will WoW ever get a graphics update? It needs one

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  • Methos12Methos12 Maladis 46Posts: 1,234Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Mothanos

    Thing is its a massive investment and costs endless hours of creating and testing, they do not have the manpower to make it.

    Nah, I'm pretty sure the problem is that they can't sell it to you which means its going into long-term patch delivery aka they can take their sweet time developing it. But hey, at least we KNOW they're working on and Dwarves are first, followed by Humans and Orcs while everything is, in best case scenario, expected to be out by the next expansion. At least it's not Dance Studio.

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  • DavisFlightDavisFlight Talahasee, FLPosts: 2,556Member
    Originally posted by nsignific

    I'm not realy sure what you're on about, WoW looks gorgeous for the most part, even by today's standards

    I disagree. WoW's art has always annoyed me on two fronts. First, how incredibly low pixel and low res everything was. Very mushy armor textures. No matter how colorful it was, having all armors just be a flat mesh with blurry edges was really annoying coming from a game like DAoC that had immaculate armor with depth and high resolution.

    The second thing is, I generally dislike the huge shoulderpad huge sword art style. I've never found it breathtaking. I thought it was outdated and crappy looking when it launched, and it looks even more so now. Glad they updated the water to be on par with DAoC's 2002 water.

     

    Now Wind Waker... that's a game that did stylized graphics right...

  • NadiaNadia Canonsburg, PAPosts: 11,866Member Common
    Originally posted by Johnie-Marz
    Originally posted by DavisFlight

    WoW doesn't have anything in it that isn't done better by another game.

    WoW does transmogrification better than any other game. They have so many armor sets that it works perfect for them and gives players a great reason to do the old raids.

    wow has a great variety of armor choices - true

    but the method of appearance gear  (transmogrification) is less intuitive than other mmos with that feature

    (EQ2, LOTRO, RIFT)

     

    in other mmos, you have appearance gear slots to determine your looks

    no need to visit some npc and/or pay a fee

  • AusareAusare adamstown, MDPosts: 850Member
    Originally posted by Nadia
    Originally posted by Johnie-Marz
    Originally posted by DavisFlight

    WoW doesn't have anything in it that isn't done better by another game.

    WoW does transmogrification better than any other game. They have so many armor sets that it works perfect for them and gives players a great reason to do the old raids.

    wow has a great variety of armor choices - true

    but the method of appearance gear  (transmogrification) is less intuitive than other mmos with that feature

    (EQ2, LOTRO, RIFT)

     

    in other mmos, you have appearance gear slots to determine your looks

    no need to visit some npc and/or pay a fee

    LotRO you have to buy a lot of the cosmetics with real cash and weapons can not be changed.  So each has it's trade off.

  • NadiaNadia Canonsburg, PAPosts: 11,866Member Common
    Originally posted by Ausare
    Originally posted by Nadia

    in other mmos, you have appearance gear slots to determine your looks

    no need to visit some npc and/or pay a fee

    LotRO you have to buy a lot of the cosmetics with real cash and weapons can not be changed.  So each has it's trade off.

     i dont think RIFT has any cosmetics on their store

  • XasapisXasapis VolosPosts: 5,561Member Uncommon

    WoW's graphics engine is so old it's beyond salvation. It has zero scalability too, so they'll need to remake everything. Everything is just paint on flat surfaces instead of high polygon high quality models. It suits their player model, you can play the game on a toaster and you probably won't need to upgrade a single piece of hardware until their die on their own.

     

    It's like those arcade games we were playing as kids, we were nostalgic of them but they really look shitty on any screen bigger than a smartphone. WoW on any screen bigger than 15" and it's fugly and painful to look at.

     

    Wish it had aged more gracefully (ie they had build some scalability into it), but it's more like it was left to rott.

  • AusareAusare adamstown, MDPosts: 850Member
    Originally posted by Nadia
    Originally posted by Ausare
    Originally posted by Nadia

    in other mmos, you have appearance gear slots to determine your looks

    no need to visit some npc and/or pay a fee

    LotRO you have to buy a lot of the cosmetics with real cash and weapons can not be changed.  So each has it's trade off.

     i dont think RIFT has any cosmetics on their store

    RIFT needed to do something....their models are crap.

  • Loke666Loke666 MalmöPosts: 18,020Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Zeus.CM
    Don't foget that engine is really old now, it is very limited today and don't expect wonders.

    Updating an old engine into a new one is far from impossible, many game engines have been severly updated with the years.

    But as I see it is it more likely that Blizzard also will revamp the graphically updated game and cal it "WoW 2", it would also give them the chanse to change whatever they want with the game without upsetting people too much and mean they might get many old players that quit long ago to buy a new box and give the game a new chanse.

    It would of course cost more but I am sure they would earn a lot more as well with it.

  • AusareAusare adamstown, MDPosts: 850Member
    Originally posted by Xasapis

    WoW's graphics engine is so old it's beyond salvation. It has zero scalability too, so they'll need to remake everything. Everything is just paint on flat surfaces instead of high polygon high quality models. It suits their player model, you can play the game on a toaster and you probably won't need to upgrade a single piece of hardware until their die on their own.

     

    It's like those arcade games we were playing as kids, we were nostalgic of them but they really look shitty on any screen bigger than a smartphone. WoW on any screen bigger than 15" and it's fugly and painful to look at.

     

    Wish it had aged more gracefully (ie they had build some scalability into it), but it's more like it was left to rott.

    To each their own.  I think most of the "realistic" graphics look like crap.  Asian anime looking junk.  I rather have WoW with their graphics matching the Warcraft 3 so it looks like I step from one to the other.  I do not play a game to look for the realistic landscapes I go outside for that.  I play a game for the fun.

  • HurvartHurvart ystadPosts: 565Member

    They already have newer character models. Like the goblin. Even blood elf look better if you compare it to the first races that was part of vanilla.

    I believe the graphics are already improved enough to make more detailed less blocky character models possible. Higher quality and more detail can still continue to be the same original art style. IMO, they just need to do it.

  • Johnie-MarzJohnie-Marz La Puente, CAPosts: 865Member
    Originally posted by Nadia
    Originally posted by Johnie-Marz
    Originally posted by DavisFlight

    WoW doesn't have anything in it that isn't done better by another game.

    WoW does transmogrification better than any other game. They have so many armor sets that it works perfect for them and gives players a great reason to do the old raids.

    wow has a great variety of armor choices - true

    but the method of appearance gear  (transmogrification) is less intuitive than other mmos with that feature

    (EQ2, LOTRO, RIFT)

     

    in other mmos, you have appearance gear slots to determine your looks

    no need to visit some npc and/or pay a fee

    I disagree. Many WoW players had kept their old armor sets that they were very proud of in their storage. Transmogrification allows them to wear that armor that they worked hard to get.  

    I see several games with Apearance gear. You go to the vender or the ingame cash shop and buy it. But WoW is the only game with transmogrification. Where you can change the apearance of your current gear to look like the gear that you had to go into a dungeon or raid and aquire.

  • OG_ZorvanOG_Zorvan Fresno, CAPosts: 615Member
    Originally posted by Johnie-Marz
    Originally posted by Nadia
    Originally posted by Johnie-Marz
    Originally posted by DavisFlight

    WoW doesn't have anything in it that isn't done better by another game.

    WoW does transmogrification better than any other game. They have so many armor sets that it works perfect for them and gives players a great reason to do the old raids.

    wow has a great variety of armor choices - true

    but the method of appearance gear  (transmogrification) is less intuitive than other mmos with that feature

    (EQ2, LOTRO, RIFT)

     

    in other mmos, you have appearance gear slots to determine your looks

    no need to visit some npc and/or pay a fee

    I disagree. Many WoW players had kept their old armor sets that they were very proud of in their storage. Transmogrification allows them to wear that armor that they worked hard to get.  

    I see several games with Apearance gear. You go to the vender or the ingame cash shop and buy it. But WoW is the only game with transmogrification. Where you can change the apearance of your current gear to look like the gear that you had to go into a dungeon or raid and aquire.

    Anarchy Online, LotRO, EQ2, Rift, etc. make it very easy to look how you want with an appearance tab. Blizzard, ironically since they're the poster child for so-easy-a-child-could do-it-and-children-in-fact-do, had to make something simple a complicated chore.

    EA CEO John Riccitiello's on future microtransactions: "When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip, and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you're really not very price sensitive at that point in time...We're not gouging, but we're charging."

  • TheHavokTheHavok San Jose, CAPosts: 2,398Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Ausare
    Blizzard is more worried about fluid animations than gimmick personalizations.

    I agree with this for the most part.  WoW's controls are the smoothest of all mmorpgs with the third person/W,A,S,D type mechanics.  GW2 is definitely great, much better then swtor, warhammer, and Aion, but they are still not at the same level of WoW.

  • Johnie-MarzJohnie-Marz La Puente, CAPosts: 865Member
    Originally posted by OG_Zorvan
    Originally posted by Johnie-Marz
    Originally posted by Nadia
    Originally posted by Johnie-Marz
    Originally posted by DavisFlight

    WoW doesn't have anything in it that isn't done better by another game.

    WoW does transmogrification better than any other game. They have so many armor sets that it works perfect for them and gives players a great reason to do the old raids.

    wow has a great variety of armor choices - true

    but the method of appearance gear  (transmogrification) is less intuitive than other mmos with that feature

    (EQ2, LOTRO, RIFT)

     

    in other mmos, you have appearance gear slots to determine your looks

    no need to visit some npc and/or pay a fee

    I disagree. Many WoW players had kept their old armor sets that they were very proud of in their storage. Transmogrification allows them to wear that armor that they worked hard to get.  

    I see several games with Apearance gear. You go to the vender or the ingame cash shop and buy it. But WoW is the only game with transmogrification. Where you can change the apearance of your current gear to look like the gear that you had to go into a dungeon or raid and aquire.

    Anarchy Online, LotRO, EQ2, Rift, etc. make it very easy to look how you want with an appearance tab. Blizzard, ironically since they're the poster child for so-easy-a-child-could do-it-and-children-in-fact-do, had to make something simple a complicated chore.

    Appearance gear is you paying money in a cash shop or to a vender and buy gear.

    Appearance gear may be great for other games but Transmogrification is perfect for WoW. Way to many players had their old armor sets in their banks collecting dusts and Transmogrification rewards them with the ability to wear that gear again with the stats of their current gear.

  • NadiaNadia Canonsburg, PAPosts: 11,866Member Common
    Originally posted by Johnie-Marz
    Appearance gear is you paying money in a cash shop or to a vender and buy gear.

    Appearance gear may be great for other games but Transmogrification is perfect for WoW. Way to many players had their old armor sets in their banks collecting dusts and Transmogrification rewards them with the ability to wear that gear again with the stats of their current gear.

    same applies for other mmos

    Appearance slots allows you to wear whatever gear you like

     - including old armor sets, old quest gear

     

    as i mentioned earlier, RIFT has no cash shop

    i was constantly reviewing my quest rewards for "looks"

    to decide if i wanted the quest gear shown on my character or not

  • sumfoolsumfool tweedPosts: 13Member

    wow looks so fugly lol

    its funny people pay for that crap when games like tera online and secret world are around looking so much nicer 

  • InFlamestwoInFlamestwo HindPosts: 662Member
    It can be done but that would require alot of work to their engine. I think they'd like to spend that time on their new mmoprg "Titan".

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  • GrayImpactGrayImpact NetherlandsPosts: 985Member Uncommon

    I quit Wow after my first 85 because i was just bored of it, but i still think it looks good til this day :/ stop worrying about graphics and enjoy the well done aesthetics and gameplay.

     

    If it bugs you that much, move on, the games old...

  • OG_ZorvanOG_Zorvan Fresno, CAPosts: 615Member
    Originally posted by Johnie-Marz
    Originally posted by OG_Zorvan
    Originally posted by Johnie-Marz
    Originally posted by Nadia
    Originally posted by Johnie-Marz
    Originally posted by DavisFlight

    WoW doesn't have anything in it that isn't done better by another game.

    WoW does transmogrification better than any other game. They have so many armor sets that it works perfect for them and gives players a great reason to do the old raids.

    wow has a great variety of armor choices - true

    but the method of appearance gear  (transmogrification) is less intuitive than other mmos with that feature

    (EQ2, LOTRO, RIFT)

     

    in other mmos, you have appearance gear slots to determine your looks

    no need to visit some npc and/or pay a fee

    I disagree. Many WoW players had kept their old armor sets that they were very proud of in their storage. Transmogrification allows them to wear that armor that they worked hard to get.  

    I see several games with Apearance gear. You go to the vender or the ingame cash shop and buy it. But WoW is the only game with transmogrification. Where you can change the apearance of your current gear to look like the gear that you had to go into a dungeon or raid and aquire.

    Anarchy Online, LotRO, EQ2, Rift, etc. make it very easy to look how you want with an appearance tab. Blizzard, ironically since they're the poster child for so-easy-a-child-could do-it-and-children-in-fact-do, had to make something simple a complicated chore.

    Appearance gear is you paying money in a cash shop or to a vender and buy gear.

    Appearance gear may be great for other games but Transmogrification is perfect for WoW. Way to many players had their old armor sets in their banks collecting dusts and Transmogrification rewards them with the ability to wear that gear again with the stats of their current gear.

    You need to play more mmos.

    Anarchy Online - have ingame armor or clothing you like the look of and don't want to change because you found something better? Two seconds to put the armor you like in your appearance slot and go.

    EQ2? Same thing.

    No vendor, no cash shop, no having to run to the nearest transmog station, or anything else needed.

    And now you have the appearance of your old gear with the stats of the new.

    Oh, and loot a really nice looking piece of armor with the wrong stats? In every other game, just slap it in appearance slot and go. New armor look with old stats. In WoW? Port back to a city, run to the transmog, go through the whole process, etc.

    Blizzard took something that is normally kindergarten simple, and complicated it for no other reason than to call a simple everyday feature a "new gameplay mechanic".

    Complication for the sake of complication is stupid.

    EA CEO John Riccitiello's on future microtransactions: "When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip, and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you're really not very price sensitive at that point in time...We're not gouging, but we're charging."

  • OG_ZorvanOG_Zorvan Fresno, CAPosts: 615Member
    Originally posted by sumfool

    wow looks so fugly lol

    its funny people pay for that crap when games like tera online and secret world are around looking so much nicer 

    I find it funny people outside of Korea or China would play a game with graphics like Tera, so I guess we're both stymied.

    Especially since the graphics in neither of those games make up for the lack of gameplay. I'll take WoW's cartoon look with good gameplay over Tera or TSW's graphics with lackluster and boring gameplay.

    EA CEO John Riccitiello's on future microtransactions: "When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip, and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you're really not very price sensitive at that point in time...We're not gouging, but we're charging."

  • mark2123mark2123 LondonPosts: 308Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by azrael466

    There are rumors going around that they're going to give all the races a model update to match the increased polygon count that pandarian models have.

    Not sure if its been confirmed, but there's that. Full game graphical update? don't count on it.

    Why you still waiting for The Secret World? It's been out months?

  • SukiyakiSukiyaki GreenwichPosts: 1,398Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Johnie-Marz
    Originally posted by Nadia
    Originally posted by Johnie-Marz
    Originally posted by DavisFlight

    WoW doesn't have anything in it that isn't done better by another game.

    WoW does transmogrification better than any other game. They have so many armor sets that it works perfect for them and gives players a great reason to do the old raids.

    wow has a great variety of armor choices - true

    but the method of appearance gear  (transmogrification) is less intuitive than other mmos with that feature

    (EQ2, LOTRO, RIFT)

     

    in other mmos, you have appearance gear slots to determine your looks

    no need to visit some npc and/or pay a fee

    I disagree. Many WoW players had kept their old armor sets that they were very proud of in their storage. Transmogrification allows them to wear that armor that they worked hard to get.  

    I see several games with Apearance gear. You go to the vender or the ingame cash shop and buy it. But WoW is the only game with transmogrification. Where you can change the apearance of your current gear to look like the gear that you had to go into a dungeon or raid and aquire.

    Welcome to MMORPGs young one. You have much to learn.

    Bliizard just copied a common feature existent with exactly the same options in dozen of MMORPGs for months and years and hyped it under a new name as usual. WoW may be the only one who calls it transmogification for marketing purposes (like fooling newbs to believe its actually something they invented or did first and didnt just copy and paste like the remaining 98% of WoW "features" so often promoted under freshly made up terms or as if its was just thought up) but isnt the the only and certainly not the first one to offer this.

    Appearance tabs or exclusive appearance gear is just another type of reskinning. What WoW copied was the most generic and basic item reskin principle available even in every second Chinese noname grinder.  For years.

    The only difference between  what you call "transmog" and the dozen other MMORPGs like Aion who had this item reskinning feature long before WoW copied it (probably even ripped it off from Aion, wouldnt be the first time), is just a new name. Nothing else. WoW did not introduce ANYTHING new about item reskinning, WoW did NOT "improve" anything about it at, all leave alone does it "better than anyone" since its exactly the same as it was in other games minus a new name.

     

  • azrael466azrael466 hillsboro, ORPosts: 365Member
    Originally posted by mark2123
    Originally posted by azrael466

    There are rumors going around that they're going to give all the races a model update to match the increased polygon count that pandarian models have.

    Not sure if its been confirmed, but there's that. Full game graphical update? don't count on it.

    Why you still waiting for The Secret World? It's been out months?

    simply put? too lazy to change my  signature.

    Playing
    Nothing
    waiting for
    The secret world
    Played
    WoW, DCU online, star wars: the old republic, city of heroes, city of villains, everquest, plenty more I'm probably forgetting or aren't worth noting.

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