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3.3 / 10 on Metacritic.

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  • roo67roo67 londonPosts: 402Member
    Originally posted by halflife25
    Originally posted by roo67
    Originally posted by Axxar
    They should disable user scores on Metacritic to prevent this kind of crap.

    Plenty of people are aware of metacritic because Steam links to it .The thing is if you think about it theres 9 million WoW players that are just as likly to flame WoW and boost the scores as there are trolls to lower them .

    Could it be WoW players who would normally be flaming a WoW expansion are genuinly unhappy with MoP . I was there when the last patch came out people hated the new talent trees with a vengance . There was lot of critism level at that aspect of the patch around the chat in Ogrimar on the Outland sever I play on .

    There was nothing like the buzz and excitment of other WoW expansions in game either . People were looking forward to seeing what it was like but there was a lot of scepticsm over its content .

    I would think theres been quite a bit of trolling on metacritic but I think theres also be a lot of flaming as well so its alll balancing out .

    Perhaps the score is fair .

    There is only way to prove it. If the population drops signficantly after MOP release then we can give some credit to metacritic scores. However, i highly doubt that it is going to happen.

    I'm not so sure . If you look up my thread where industry analysts have forcast disapointing sales for MoP I would think the bounce Blizzard has got from returning players would be around 1/4 to half a million . The last official figures were around 9 million world wide but it wouldn't suprise me if they had dropped further since as they do in the months before an expansion .

    The relativly low number of High population servers on launch day and the days following ( eu english speaking high population servers 15-18 compared to 35+ at the release of Cata ) also are a further indication that MoP isn't selling as well as Blizzard would have hoped .

    What I think will happen is Blizzard will release subscription numbers very soon in month one after the release of expansion these will most like show them either maintaining 9 millions subs aproximatly with maybe a slight increase . The telling figures will be in 3 or 6 months down the line . My conservative estimate is that Blizzard will be down to 8.5 million subs in six months but I suspect the loses could be even higher than that .  

    It will be interesting to see how it plays out .

  • JoeyMMOJoeyMMO SomewherePosts: 1,326Member

    It's at 4.2 now, nothing stellar and a still lot of hate. It might even get to 5 some day. MoP has received a mixed welcome to say the least. Going purely on Xfire one might think that WoW lost about 20% of their players over MoP. From the players complaining about the Panda's but especially the oversimplification (dumbing down) of the skill system and the people giving it a 0 because they couldn't play on launch day.

    So direct sales probably make up the majority of sales, and it doesn't look like it killed itself but it looks like the game took a bit of a hit. Trying to appeal to the oriental market too much hasn't done them too many favors in the west. Still they're back at the number one spot after GW2 having taken it for about a month.

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  • NetspookNetspook OsloPosts: 1,503Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Eazydzzz

    http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/world-of-warcraft-mists-of-pandaria/user-reviews?sort-by=date&num_items=100

     

    Just thought I would share.

     

    A 3.3 seems a little high.  I am pretty angry about spending $40 on MoP!

     

    Score is now 4.2.

    Out of 464 scores, only 13 are mixed. Pretty much proves what others already said: it's either top scores, or zeroes, almost nothing in between. Metacritic is the worst trollsite on da interweb, and user scores should be removed. Neither haters nor fanboys are able to give fair reviews/scores, and that's pretty much the only types of ppl reviewing games at that site. Unfortunately, the "pros" aren't much better, most of them gives too high scores to just about anything.

    Btw, you're obviously among the haters. 3.3 too high? Yeah, right... Doubt you've even tried it.

  • PaladrinkPaladrink SantiagoPosts: 47Member
    Anything to be surprised about?

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  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Manchester, NHPosts: 2,926Member Uncommon
    All of those 0 scores have to be from people that didn't buy the game.  They just hate Blizzard.  Some hate them for DRM in D3, otehrs for changing WOW, others becasue they are popular.
  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordPosts: 7,207Member
    There I agree, never look at 0s and 10s on metacritic. Take an average of everything else.
  • ZorgoZorgo Deepintheheartof, TXPosts: 2,226Member

    As of my posting:

    There are 271 negative votes

    185 positive votes.

    13 mixed.

    Considering that WoW has 9+ million subscribers, get back to me when there is actually enough of a population sampling  for this score to actually mean something.

  • IPolygonIPolygon ViennaPosts: 707Member Uncommon
    People gave GW2 zeroes and alike for having a messed up launch in Europe and some features bugged out due to latency issues or oversights. I am sure WoW: MoP suffers from the same early reviewers.
  • MikkelBMikkelB SteenwijkPosts: 240Member

    Originally posted by TheHavok

    Reading the reviews is actually pretty entertaining.

    demonlordcip writes: Kung fu pandas in Warcraft, pandas suck, the game has become a **** disneyland kid game. What a joke Blizzard. Those of you who rate 10 , your **** WoW addicts and Blizzard fanboys who eat every turd out of Blizzard's ass. Enjoy your retarded pandas and kung fu
     
    rating: 0
     
    PANDASARESOLAME writes: If you are an old WoW player from the Vanilla or BC days and are thinking of getting MoP, please do not. You will forever taint your good memories of WoW. It's sickening what this game has become. Do yourself a favor and pretend that the game you used to play was shut down completely, just like Tabula Rasa or AC2. If you have a small child who is interested in playing WoW, you should
     
    MathewT writes: Ignore the Blizzard employees and fanboys leaving 9s and 10s on here. This expansion is trash. I seriously feel sorry for anybody that thinks WoW is a good game now. If you have an ounce of intelligence in your brain you will not enjoy playing WoW in its current state.
     
    rating: 0


    manotaur writes: Just absolutely not. Blizzard had lost me after Diablo 3, which I still bought out of pure loyalty. I regret ever giving this company that chance. A terrible, money-grubbing company who make **** games.
     
    rating 0
     
    Diablo3sux writes: Blizzard really needs to re-learn how to make fun games. Nothing new, same old stuff with more ilvl, same old crafting materials, and questing is still boring.
     
    rating: 0
    Another fun one:
     
    RamboRomulousThe death of a giant. Same old same old. No new artwork, bad design, changing things that do not need changing. Voiceovers are bad. Once was a great MMO, now just a stale piece of junk. Blizzard needs to hire people who care about games, not those who just want to make money by insulting the customer.
     
    I just wish they would say what they don't like about the game, instead of going on a general rant against WoW, D3 or Blizzard/Activision. The section is called User Reviews, yet all I read is bitching, moaning and raging. Not that the 9's and 10's are much better, but most of them at least mention one or two points they like in MoP.

    Originally posted by FrodoFragins

    All of those 0 scores have to be from people that didn't buy the game.  They just hate Blizzard.  Some hate them for DRM in D3, otehrs for changing WOW, others becasue they are popular.

    Diablo 3 had some fun reviews and scores too at Metacritic. I'm not saying that the launchproblems from Diabl 3 are excusable, but to give a "0" rating to a game just because a shitty launch is laughable, to say the least.

    The same happened with Mass Effect 3. A lot of low scores, because people disregarded the complete game, because of the crappy ending. The original ending was (and after the free patch, still is), crappy, rushed and misplaced in my opinion. Mass Effect deserves a better ending. But if I had to score the game, I still wouldn't give it a "1" or a "0", because I enjoyed the 30 or so hours I put into the game.

    Lastly, some "reviewers" complain that MoP is the "same old" again. I just wonder what the hell they're expecting from an expansion? MoP changed enough things for me to feel fresh, which is what I expect from an expansion.

  • SouldrainerSouldrainer Elmer, NJPosts: 1,857Member
    Originally posted by MikkelB

    Originally posted by TheHavok

    Reading the reviews is actually pretty entertaining.

    demonlordcip writes: Kung fu pandas in Warcraft, pandas suck, the game has become a **** disneyland kid game. What a joke Blizzard. Those of you who rate 10 , your **** WoW addicts and Blizzard fanboys who eat every turd out of Blizzard's ass. Enjoy your retarded pandas and kung fu
     
    rating: 0
     
    PANDASARESOLAME writes: If you are an old WoW player from the Vanilla or BC days and are thinking of getting MoP, please do not. You will forever taint your good memories of WoW. It's sickening what this game has become. Do yourself a favor and pretend that the game you used to play was shut down completely, just like Tabula Rasa or AC2. If you have a small child who is interested in playing WoW, you should
     
    MathewT writes: Ignore the Blizzard employees and fanboys leaving 9s and 10s on here. This expansion is trash. I seriously feel sorry for anybody that thinks WoW is a good game now. If you have an ounce of intelligence in your brain you will not enjoy playing WoW in its current state.
     
    rating: 0


    manotaur writes: Just absolutely not. Blizzard had lost me after Diablo 3, which I still bought out of pure loyalty. I regret ever giving this company that chance. A terrible, money-grubbing company who make **** games.
     
    rating 0
     
    Diablo3sux writes: Blizzard really needs to re-learn how to make fun games. Nothing new, same old stuff with more ilvl, same old crafting materials, and questing is still boring.
     
    rating: 0
    Another fun one:
     
    RamboRomulousThe death of a giant. Same old same old. No new artwork, bad design, changing things that do not need changing. Voiceovers are bad. Once was a great MMO, now just a stale piece of junk. Blizzard needs to hire people who care about games, not those who just want to make money by insulting the customer.
     
    I just wish they would say what they don't like about the game, instead of going on a general rant against WoW, D3 or Blizzard/Activision. The section is called User Reviews, yet all I read is bitching, moaning and raging. Not that the 9's and 10's are much better, but most of them at least mention one or two points they like in MoP.

    Originally posted by FrodoFragins

    All of those 0 scores have to be from people that didn't buy the game.  They just hate Blizzard.  Some hate them for DRM in D3, otehrs for changing WOW, others becasue they are popular.

    Diablo 3 had some fun reviews and scores too at Metacritic. I'm not saying that the launchproblems from Diabl 3 are excusable, but to give a "0" rating to a game just because a shitty launch is laughable, to say the least.

    The same happened with Mass Effect 3. A lot of low scores, because people disregarded the complete game, because of the crappy ending. The original ending was (and after the free patch, still is), crappy, rushed and misplaced in my opinion. Mass Effect deserves a better ending. But if I had to score the game, I still wouldn't give it a "1" or a "0", because I enjoyed the 30 or so hours I put into the game.

    Lastly, some "reviewers" complain that MoP is the "same old" again. I just wonder what the hell they're expecting from an expansion? MoP changed enough things for me to feel fresh, which is what I expect from an expansion.

    Diablo 3 actually deserves a 0 IMO, because it's a thinly veiled RMT AH treadmill, not a real game.  Some people will think it's ridiculous to say that, but I stand by it.  I'd say 1 in 1000 games might deserve a 0.  Many deserve a bad score, but to actually call a game a 0, it really can't be a game at all.  I still agree that Diablo 3 is a 0/10.  Now, if they'd remove the RMT AH, the game goes up to a 1/10 for me.  If they also remove always online, it goes up to 4/10, and if they hire decent writers to re-write the whole story and scrap 100% of what they wrote, it goes up to a 7/10.

    ... but I digress.  Sometimes people are not at their writing peak when they are outraged, and I think that's what has happened here.  It's not that they are dumb or anything.  They are just blind with anger, as well they should be.  Blizzard used to be the #1 PC Gaming juggernaut, but not anymore.

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  • VolenibbletsVolenibblets London, LAPosts: 212Member Uncommon

    Fair barometer. I haven't heard even one positive from any of the large number wow-fiend mates that have played the new content, well, except my two little nephews who love it.

    The success of Blizzard is to a large extent due to market research. I think their market research department have been increasingly telling them that the only people on the planet who haven't played WOW to death are people who were in nappies when it was first released and they made a concious effort to steer the content towards the young'uns. No shame in that, it's all about corporate survival and keeping people in jobs in these difficult times. There's a game out there for everyone and for an increasingly large number of people this isn't it anymore.   

  • MikkelBMikkelB SteenwijkPosts: 240Member
    *SNIP*

    Diablo 3 actually deserves a 0 IMO, because it's a thinly veiled RMT AH treadmill, not a real game.  Some people will think it's ridiculous to say that, but I stand by it.  I'd say 1 in 1000 games might deserve a 0.  Many deserve a bad score, but to actually call a game a 0, it really can't be a game at all.  I still agree that Diablo 3 is a 0/10.  Now, if they'd remove the RMT AH, the game goes up to a 1/10 for me.  If they also remove always online, it goes up to 4/10, and if they hire decent writers to re-write the whole story and scrap 100% of what they wrote, it goes up to a 7/10.

    ... but I digress.  Sometimes people are not at their writing peak when they are outraged, and I think that's what has happened here.  It's not that they are dumb or anything.  They are just blind with anger, as well they should be.  Blizzard used to be the #1 PC Gaming juggernaut, but not anymore.

    Personally I've put in around 80 hours or so in Diablo 3. My Hardcore Wizard is finished Hell, which was my original goal with DIablo 3. Playing on Hardcore means that I had no access to the RMT. Some people I've played with are sludging their way through Inferno, so I know for certain that your don't need the RMT to finish Inferno. Two of my friends are nearly done with Inferno on Softcore, but haven't used the RMT out of principle. Sure, it might be slower, but you certaintly don't need the RMT. I know it's your opinion, but I disagree with you saying that the whole game revolves about the RMT. The blackmarket already excisted in Diablo 2, Blizzard now regulates it and that's just it.

    Like I said, if you don't like the game, fine. The thing that "bothers" me a bit, is that people throw around "0" ratings, while having around 20-40 hours invested in a game. If you look at some of the Metacritic reviews about Diablo 3 you see this. That's stupid. That's also why I prefer the professional reviews. Even if they're on the payroll of the publishers, they at least give some pro's and con's about the games, from which I can conclude if the game is for me or not. Reviews that are just rants aren't helpful at all.

  • RazperilRazperil Lewiston, MEPosts: 289Member
    Originally posted by fixif
    Originally posted by Sukiyaki
    Originally posted by Eazydzzz

    http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/world-of-warcraft-mists-of-pandaria/user-reviews?sort-by=date&num_items=100

     

    Just thought I would share.

     

    A 3.3 seems a little high.  I am pretty angry about spending $40 on MoP!

    It was amusing to read the thread on mmo-champion, where dozen of WoW fans "optimistically" expected WoW to lose half a million subscriber due to MOP and the average of almost a hundred mostly WoW player guessed about 1-2 million subs lost. Must be WoW fanbois with their many alts pushing to rating up.

    But dont worry next week MOP will release in China and many active accounts... I mean "subscriptions" will apear and fill those empty server ...somewhere else... temporary ...for a few days. But hey 30 days grace time for PR buzz!!!

    What do you want more than a low/medium pop server called medium/high now thanks to recently downwards adjusted server pop ratings and milions of co-player on paper, after you finally got your long delayed regular contentpatches accumulated into a paid expansionpack to make it appear at least decently sized.

    You amuse me. Your signature especially. If anyone, anywhere reads any of your posts and knows at least a little about MMOs, knows your "arguments" are empty words driven by obvious hatred to WoW. I've been encountering your posts on the whole forum and you are a angry and bitter man. What did WoW ever do to you? Did it kill your family? Or are you just aggravated knowing that your favorite MMO won't ever fly so high as WoW once did.

    I was not a fan of MoP, but now when it's released, I am really enjoying it. This expansion has all the things previous expansion had + a lot more. Those are the facts. Nothing more.

    If you care about those things, and you obviously do, MoP will outsell GW in 1 day.  You can argue why but that doesn't really matter now, does it?

    I can literally bury each and every one of your "claims" and consipracy theories to the ground but that won't make you change your mind. I assume you are one of those people who when confronted with hard evidence, just shrug it off and continue believing in your own distorted theories. If you can even call them that.

    What will happen if MoP eventually manages to boost Blizzard back to 10 million?  Will you shut up then? Or if it doesn't? What if WoW stabilizes at 8 million? What then? Will you start yelling all over the forums "I told you so" eventho WoW will still after a decade be the biggest MMO?

    Please, get your arguments straight or just stop posting. For everyones sake.

    You should take your own advice :)

  • macrowowmacrowow Olathe, KSPosts: 26Member
    The first zone was ok, the second I was starting to wonder if I had outgrown the game or something it was so childish. However, KL summit and beyond was really cool. I only got bored leveling around 89.5 or so and it wasn't anything some bg's (the new one rocks) and dungeons couldn't fix.

    The heroics are way too easy tho and I'm really worried they are going to make the same mistakes again - not enough content.

    I don't understand their strategy sometimes because if 10% of the content they put out with this xpansion was put out 5 months ago, they wouldn't have so many people leave.
    I think what they are doing is like previous posters have said, going after the Asian market and the young kid market.

    Regardless, it isn't a 3/10 it's a 7/10 IMHO
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