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Looking for Dwarf Fortress like game

TisLarsTisLars RotterdamPosts: 48Member

Hey,

Edited my first post that was here, because I did some searching and found out I want a genre like Dwarf Fortress. I liked MineCraft, but it's just not the full package.. Dwarf Fortress seems very complesx, but I can't get past the graphics.

 

What is a good alternative? I've seen Towns, is it somewhat compareable?

 

Greets

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  • Sk1ppeRSk1ppeR PlovdivPosts: 511Member

    Get a job and play a casual game

     

    You'll thank me later

  • TisLarsTisLars RotterdamPosts: 48Member

    Stay ontopic, I don't need comments as yours.

    Already following college and have a job in the weekends.

  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordPosts: 7,207Member
    Why is it important if other players have hacked their tl2 characters? How does it detract from your own achievements?
  • TisLarsTisLars RotterdamPosts: 48Member

    Because the majority does it. When you join a random internet game, the chances are big you come across someone that has immense stats and rushes through content.

    I know the game can be played singleplayer, but I prefer some multiplayer action.

  • PhaserlightPhaserlight Boca Raton, FLPosts: 867Member Uncommon

    Vendetta Online can be pretty Hard(tm) if you go looking for it.  I've heard it described as "hardcore" in a couple reviews, although from this gamer's perspective it feels just about right.

    Of the three examples you gave, it probably falls along the lines of "Quake" more than anything else.  Some of the alpha players used to refer to Vendetta as SpaceQuake, affectionately.  It requires twitch skills: moderate reflexes combined with applied knowledge of weaponry and spatial awareness.  Developing a proficiency in combat takes about a month, mastery takes years (kind of like a martial art).  However, the first few ships you go up against shouldn't be very difficult at all.

    There is a learning curve, and the game requires a subscription after the initial free download and trial (8 hours, accretionary, after leaving the training sector).  After that, the subscription rate is quite cheap... at the increments I buy in it costs me slightly less than 7 USD per month, it is 10 USD per month at its most expensive.  There is no cash shop.

    To give you an idea of how intense combat can get, here is a video of myself attempting the mission "Corvus System Reconnaissance".  I am very proud of finishing this with ~17% health.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smsnwW3S_ZI

    Check out the action after about the 6 minute or the 12 minute mark if you get anxious.  I am using a gamepad to control the ship.

    I recommend giving the free trial a shot... and say hi if you see me in game.

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  • KhaerosKhaeros Monroe, NYPosts: 452Member

    MMOs: RIFT is like WoW and has hard modes - if you enjoyed WoW, chances are that you'll like this game too.  It even gets 3-faction PVP if you're into that.

     

    Hack/slash: I strongly suggest sticking with TL2.  I agree that the whole console access thing can get a little crazy, but if you get friends to come in with you, you'll enjoy it a lot more.  You can always see if someone's willing to play with you on the runic games forum.  Diablo 3, IMO, still needs a lot of work (like the devs said).  TL2 is the first recent hack/slash that I actually got close to death quite a few times on.

     

    Shooters:  Most of the difficulty from a shooter comes from other players.  Counter-Strike is known to be a fairly competitive game that's also easy to pick up - but then again, Team Fortress 2 also has a competitive scene (usually 6v6, sometimes 9v9).  In a shooter, you'll want to pick a game that's popular and that has some sort of competitive scene.  If you're really, REALLY into the e-sports shooter thing, ShootMania is basically tailored for competitive e-sports - when it comes out sometime this year.

     

     

    If you wanted to put all the possibilities on the table, most games allow you to make your own difficulty depending on how many restrictions you put on yourself.

     

    I'm sure you're aware of the Ironman challenge in WoW.  There's others like it - DDO has a few 'hardcore' communities where they delete their characters after they die.

  • shadowmageshadowmage Duluth, GAPosts: 191Member Uncommon
    Have you thought of Borderlands 2? I heard the Play + play through is very hard if your not speced correctly. I have not heard of any mod being out for the game that might kill your joy of random games. It can fill you hack'en slash and FPS requirments (It is Diablo like loot drops and a Char you can spec for melee) I know me and m,y friends are enjoying it.

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  • KiljaedenasKiljaedenas New Westminster, BCPosts: 468Member

    You may want to consider Dead Island. It isn't an MMO per-se, but you can join with up to three other people to do stuff co-op. It has hack-slash, FPS and RPG elements, and if you aren't careful about what you're doing you could easily get mobbed and curb-stomped. Very atmospheric too. You'll need a bit of a beefy graphics card to play it on full detail though.

    As for a true MMO that is hard, ever tried Eve Online? Believe me, if you push yourself to get into the more difficult areas of that (such as Nullsec), you'll be in for a level of tactical and logistical challenge unlike anything else.

    Where's the any key?

  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordPosts: 7,207Member
    You might want to look at roguealikes, indie games that are rock rock hard, don't know if there's a multiplayer one though.
  • TisLarsTisLars RotterdamPosts: 48Member

    Bump

     

    Looking for a Dwarf Fortress alternative. Towns seems okay, but is it compareable?

    Or perhaps someone has a very basic guide for Dwarf Fortress, but I find it hard to get along with the graphics :)

  • Creslin321Creslin321 Baltimore, MDPosts: 5,359Member

    DF will never have "great" graphics, but there are plenty of texture packs that can bring it to like 8-bit NES level.  Check these out: 

    http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/v0.31:Graphics_set_repository

    Also, there is a great program called Dwarf Therapist that is like the ultimate UI enhancement for DF.  It lets you see what all your dwarves are doing, what they want, etc. etc.  Here it is:

    http://code.google.com/p/dwarftherapist/

    Finally...I don't know how into graphics you are, but if you want a deep strategy game with lots of options to explore, there is Dominions 3.  It isn't good graphics, it's like 8-bit level as well:

    http://www.shrapnelgames.com/Illwinter/DOM3/DOM3_page.html

    Finally, you may want to give either Minecraft with mods (I know you didn't like vanilla, but mods can do a lot for the game) or Terrarria.

    Enjoy!

    Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?

  • IchmenIchmen Winnipeg, MBPosts: 1,228Member

    if you want a dwarffortress game there are 2 that i have tried (they are single player buy now games with trials)

    www.townsgame.com  and www.gnomoria.com

    gnomoria is more of a DF style then towns, but towns is alot more advanced along patch wise so a tad more balanced/stable. both are indie games and fairly cheap. 

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  • TisLarsTisLars RotterdamPosts: 48Member
    Thanks for both replies.

    Creslin321: If I can get past the graphics, I [u]know[/u] it's a amazing game. I already installed the Phoebus graphics pack, but it doesn't get better than that, it will stay a tile game.

    I'm now searching for a good video tutorial to follow, but not many are DF 0.34.11 (most up to date version).
  • joojoo1975joojoo1975 centralia, ILPosts: 274Member Common
    Originally posted by TisLars

    Hey,

    Edited my first post that was here, because I did some searching and found out I want a genre like Dwarf Fortress. I liked MineCraft, but it's just not the full package.. Dwarf Fortress seems very complesx, but I can't get past the graphics.

     

    What is a good alternative? I've seen Towns, is it somewhat compareable?

     

    Greets

    hmm have you looked into the forums for D-Fortress?  there are graphic enhancements that make it kinda make it look like a nintendo-ish game.

     

    http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php#c3

     

    and the wiki?

    http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Main_Page

     

    (EdiT:  sorry, just saw the current replies, nevermind then, nothing to see here)

     

    :)

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  • Mr_WolfxMr_Wolfx Columbus, TXPosts: 176Member

    If you're looking for a good up-to-date tutorial for DF, there's a book out called "Getting Started with Dwarf Fortress". I honestly couldn't get more then an hour into playing without losing track of everything, but just got the book and haven't stopped playing in a good while. The book pretty much covers every little aspect of the game from hospitals to how to raise an army of war dogs.. Either way it's like $8 or you could just go online and get it a bit cheaper>.>

    There's also Gnomoria, which is pretty much DF with better UI and controls. Just gotta wait for it to update to a point where it's not completely unplayable.

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  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordPosts: 7,207Member
    Theres this game called "a game of dwarves" coming out, although its more dungeon keeper than df

    Towns and terraria as mentioned

    Also a game in development called starbound, which has some of the terraria team on it, procedural generated terraria like planets, within a procedural generated universe, (they even procedural generate weapons and stuff)
  • SharpKrisSharpKris haifaPosts: 17Member
    i might just try gnomoria to see if its any good. 
    DF is really not something that has anything to do with an mmo
    lol i spent close to 2 months watching guides and playing (mostly horribely dying) to get a hang of this monster of a game
  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordPosts: 7,207Member
    Check out maia game
  • GrayImpactGrayImpact NetherlandsPosts: 983Member Uncommon

    I see you already know about Towns, and Gnomoria has been suggested.

    Besides that you could look into "A Game of Dwarves"

    It should release in about 2 weeks by Paradox, i think i heard It'll be around 10$

     

    It might not be as complex, I'm assuming it won't be, but It'll probably be a similar genre.

  • zimboy69zimboy69 chicargo, FLPosts: 372Member Uncommon

    i did search for a game  like dwarf fortress  as i was very intrested in it  but  just couldnt get past the graphics

     

    i did find  prison architech   in alpha  atm   and is  quite good but  needs more    also  a game of dwarves   i havent  bought this  but appears to be  some  managment  game  with  dungeon  building    but not  sure what it has but  could be worth chacking out 

     

     

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  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordPosts: 7,207Member
    Game of dwarves is more of a dungeon keeper type game.

    Maia is more of a df in space, with much better graphics.
  • GothikaboyGothikaboy SödertäljePosts: 119Member
    Try Dungeons of Dredmor.

    Please do not hype any gam.. oh wait, nevermind... forgot what forum I was on.

  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordPosts: 7,207Member
    That's a roguelike not a management / dom game
  • CaldrinCaldrin CwmbranPosts: 4,533Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Ichmen

    if you want a dwarffortress game there are 2 that i have tried (they are single player buy now games with trials)

    www.townsgame.com  and www.gnomoria.com

    gnomoria is more of a DF style then towns, but towns is alot more advanced along patch wise so a tad more balanced/stable. both are indie games and fairly cheap. 

    these are what i would have suggested...

     

     

    Gnomoria is great fun... i have not tried towns yet but it  also looks similar.

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