I hear a lot of complaints about how UO went downhill after the release of renaissance. personally ive been playing UO on and off since then and have been excited about every release up to the current High seas and have not been dissapointed. IMO the games requires updates and changes to survive 15 years. i guess my question is if your one of those people that think EA destoyed UO what would you have done differently to keep it fresh and exciting? or was it just purely Trammel that ruined it for you?