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WoW retakes nr 1 spot on X-Fire

YamotaYamota LondonPosts: 6,620Member

Not surprisingly, after release of Mists of Pandaria, WoW is back at number 1 and GW 2 takes a 10% dip in number of players on XFire.

Will it last though? I was kind of expecting a bigger drop for GW 2 but the weekend is still ahead of us.

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  • YakkinYakkin irvine, CAPosts: 919Member
    And? It's not like the people who still play GW2 are going to leave because of a drop in something that isn't exactly reliable.
  • CalerxesCalerxes LondonPosts: 1,630Member Uncommon
    But but but but X-fire is irrelevant when our game is losing.

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  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Manchester, NHPosts: 2,933Member Uncommon

    Well second to LOL, but I assume you mean in the MMO genre.

     

    It was pretty obvious that MoP would overtake GW2.  I'm really curious how close they'll be in a month or two.

  • YamotaYamota LondonPosts: 6,620Member
    Originally posted by FrodoFragins

    Well second to LOL, but I assume you mean in the MMO genre.

     

    It was pretty obvious that MoP would overtake GW2.  I'm really curious how close they'll be in a month or two.

    Yes I wonder that too. WoW has proven that it can capture huge audience for a long time but GW 2 has not of yet. So the question is, will GW 2 go down the same route of SW:TOR, downward spiral towards F2P or will it grow like WoW once did?

  • GravargGravarg Harker Heights, TXPosts: 3,332Member Uncommon
    As I said back when people were talking about how xfire numbers showed GW2 as number one, Xfire numbers are highly unreliable.  The thing people need to remember is that since GW2 isn't a subscription game, players can come and go as they please.  It's not like a subscription game where after you pay your subscription, you're almost obliged to play it for that entire month.
  • YakkinYakkin irvine, CAPosts: 919Member
    Originally posted by Yamota
    Originally posted by FrodoFragins

    Well second to LOL, but I assume you mean in the MMO genre.

     

    It was pretty obvious that MoP would overtake GW2.  I'm really curious how close they'll be in a month or two.

    Yes I wonder that too. WoW has proven that it can capture huge audience for a long time but GW 2 has not of yet. So the question is, will GW 2 go down the same route of SW:TOR, downward spiral towards F2P or will it grow like WoW once did?

    First off, how can GW2 go F2P? You buy the box, and you play afterwards with no sub fee.

    Second, I get the feeling you're just looking for any reason to satiate your ego, and having GW2 fail is apparently the only way to do it. after all, I've seen your post history and the various arguments you have with people all around the forums on the subject matter.

  • CalerxesCalerxes LondonPosts: 1,630Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Yamota
    Originally posted by FrodoFragins

    Well second to LOL, but I assume you mean in the MMO genre.

     

    It was pretty obvious that MoP would overtake GW2.  I'm really curious how close they'll be in a month or two.

    Yes I wonder that too. WoW has proven that it can capture huge audience for a long time but GW 2 has not of yet. So the question is, will GW 2 go down the same route of SW:TOR, downward spiral towards F2P or will it grow like WoW once did?

    Yes, Fully 100% maybe, No

     

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  • Stx11Stx11 West Hills, CAPosts: 415Member
    Originally posted by Yamota
    Originally posted by FrodoFragins

    Well second to LOL, but I assume you mean in the MMO genre.

    It was pretty obvious that MoP would overtake GW2.  I'm really curious how close they'll be in a month or two.

    Yes I wonder that too. WoW has proven that it can capture huge audience for a long time but GW 2 has not of yet. So the question is, will GW 2 go down the same route of SW:TOR, downward spiral towards F2P or will it grow like WoW once did?

    If you're seriously interested in analysis, note that WoW has less than 1,000 more X-Fire players than GW2, even though WoW is in Launch Week and GW2 has been out for a month.

    Also, GW2 just passed MoP on Amazon's Bestsellers List which is honestly something I didn't expect to see happen... at least not the Friday after MoP came out.

    Although even cooler - EVE is #1 on Amazon right now!!! :O

  • CalerxesCalerxes LondonPosts: 1,630Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Enigmatus
    Originally posted by Yamota
    Originally posted by FrodoFragins

    Well second to LOL, but I assume you mean in the MMO genre.

     

    It was pretty obvious that MoP would overtake GW2.  I'm really curious how close they'll be in a month or two.

    Yes I wonder that too. WoW has proven that it can capture huge audience for a long time but GW 2 has not of yet. So the question is, will GW 2 go down the same route of SW:TOR, downward spiral towards F2P or will it grow like WoW once did?

    First off, how can GW2 go F2P? You buy the box, and you play afterwards with no sub fee.

    Second, I get the feeling you're just looking for any reason to satiate your ego, and having GW2 fail is apparently the only way to do it. after all, I've seen your post history and the various arguments you have with people all around the forums on the subject matter.

     

    If they give the client away its F2P and not B2P, simple really.

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  • Stx11Stx11 West Hills, CAPosts: 415Member
    Originally posted by Calerxes

    If they give the client away its F2P and not B2P, simple really.

    Not going to happen.

  • kitaradkitarad RomePosts: 1,747Member Uncommon
    Didn't a large number of  X-Fire clients not work with Mists when they did the initial patches before the launch and is it not possible that many of the WoW players have not bothered to update their X-Fire client.

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  • Stx11Stx11 West Hills, CAPosts: 415Member
    Originally posted by kitarad
    Didn't a large number of  X-Fire clients not work with Mists when they did the initial patches before the launch and is it not possible that many of the WoW players have not bothered to update their X-Fire client.

    Um this seems to be the "official excuse" whenever any game comes out - GW2, WoW, SWTOR, TSW all had fans/supporters claiming this.

    It's a great reason for why X-Fire numbers are silly and meaningless, but a lousy one for justifying why a specific game isn't "performing" on the service.

  • XeoMatrix00XeoMatrix00 Boynton Beach, FLPosts: 39Member

    Dude do you really think subs matter GW2 has none. Also, Xfire numbers have no real meening is not worthy to use to be considered real.

    I play both WoW and GW2 guess what i installed Xfire and unsintalled the next day is not worth it. So you really think this numbers matter. 

    Give me more accurate evidence than Xfire plz, im tired of ppl using this info whithout nothing else to back it up. Xfire numbers dont mean a lot.  

    You want better info you have to wait the first month of the game for WoW and GW2 when both of them have matured more you will see better feedback.

    Ppl will leave MOP and go back to GW2 and ppl will GW2 and go to MoP. Or anyother game of course. I have a sense of a WoW fanboy here. You want better feedback you have to wait more. I myself i play both games but playing GW2 more just go back to wow on certains times is doesnt matter how we see it we have to admint that wow numbers are getting lower for every new mmo that come in. Will be hard for new mmo to take millions of users in less than a month but each new mmo is taking a  chunk out of wow so give it time.  Myself hope Titan will be good replacement, will be very shameful if Titan doesnt capture the millions of subs from wow.

    PS. Im using GW2 as an example because i play both. Thats another benefit of having one sub and 2 mmo games. :)

     

  • thexratedthexrated OuluPosts: 1,368Member Common
    Originally posted by XeoMatrix00

    Dude do you really think subs matter GW2 has none. Also, Xfire numbers have no real meening is not worthy to use to be considered real.

    Like it or not. GW2 is going to same direction in X-fire as most recent themeparks have done. X-fire does give a trend, but it does not represent whole MMO population or even a given population in that game. However, it has been fairly accurate predicting the trend that a game is going.

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  • JointmastaJointmasta Santa Cruz, CAPosts: 7Member
    you can put WOW number one on every list in the world and i still wont play it. i gave it 6 strait hours once and i have no desire to play it again.
  • korent1991korent1991 CakovecPosts: 1,390Member
    Originally posted by Calerxes
    Originally posted by Yamota
    Originally posted by FrodoFragins

    Well second to LOL, but I assume you mean in the MMO genre.

     

    It was pretty obvious that MoP would overtake GW2.  I'm really curious how close they'll be in a month or two.

    Yes I wonder that too. WoW has proven that it can capture huge audience for a long time but GW 2 has not of yet. So the question is, will GW 2 go down the same route of SW:TOR, downward spiral towards F2P or will it grow like WoW once did?

    Yes, Fully 100% maybe, No

     

    Right, can I borrow your crystal globe?

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  • saurus123saurus123 nonePosts: 570Member Uncommon

    xfire numbers

     

    MoP realesed wow jumped to 66364 hours

    after a day it droped to 61675 hours

    now MoP have only 58682 hours

     

     

    for me its a drop of 8k hours in few days

  • ohpowerohpower ParisPosts: 72Member

    Hum... since OP has looked at the number of players, he might also have seen that GW2 is played by 9063 players (after 1month) and MOP 9952 (after... 2 days, you know when GW2 had like 35000 players after day 2).

    As always, numbers on Xfire are to be handled with caution, but we can certainly be sure that 10000 players isn't much... since it's the population the "ailing" GW2 has :p (the Anet people must be thinking: "as many players as WoW MoP on Xfire guys: we're dead! We have to give the game for free now!")

  • Stx11Stx11 West Hills, CAPosts: 415Member
    Originally posted by thexrated
    Originally posted by XeoMatrix00

    Dude do you really think subs matter GW2 has none. Also, Xfire numbers have no real meening is not worthy to use to be considered real.

    Like it or not. GW2 is going to same direction in X-fire as most recent themeparks have done. X-fire does give a trend, but it does not represent whole MMO population or even a given population in that game. However, it has been fairly accurate predicting the trend that a game is going.

    X-Fire could struggle with GW2. Unlike past MMOs GW2 is riding a wave of new people playing even as others leave. X-Fire honestly seems a horrible service for tracking that.

    GW2 just overtook MoP on Amazon Sales so people are still buying and just starting to play the game. How many of those people are X-Fire Users? Probably a very, very small number (X-Fire is a pretty niche and more "hardcore" gaming service).

    X-Fire can't account for them, and will only be able to track any X-Fire users that return to the game and considering how much GW2 caters to a more "casual" rather than "hardcore" (aka Progression-Based Raiding) playerbase I can see the disconnect between X-Fire and "reality" just growing and growing over time.

  • CalerxesCalerxes LondonPosts: 1,630Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by korent1991
    Originally posted by Calerxes
    Originally posted by Yamota
    Originally posted by FrodoFragins

    Well second to LOL, but I assume you mean in the MMO genre.

     

    It was pretty obvious that MoP would overtake GW2.  I'm really curious how close they'll be in a month or two.

    Yes I wonder that too. WoW has proven that it can capture huge audience for a long time but GW 2 has not of yet. So the question is, will GW 2 go down the same route of SW:TOR, downward spiral towards F2P or will it grow like WoW once did?

    Yes, Fully 100% maybe, No

     

    Right, can I borrow your crystal globe?

     

    Of course you can just get in line, but as ever you can quote me and throw it back in my face if I'm wrong at a future date, I'm a big boy I can take being wrong.

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  • CalerxesCalerxes LondonPosts: 1,630Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Stx11
    Originally posted by Calerxes

    If they give the client away its F2P and not B2P, simple really.

    Not going to happen.

     

    Can I quote you on that?

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  • DraemosDraemos Antartica, AKPosts: 1,469Member
    Originally posted by FrodoFragins

    Well second to LOL, but I assume you mean in the MMO genre.

     

    It was pretty obvious that MoP would overtake GW2.  I'm really curious how close they'll be in a month or two.

     

    If history is any indication, WoW will maintain it's population and GW2 will fall off

  • Pratt2112Pratt2112 Posts: 1,538Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Calerxes
    But but but but X-fire is irrelevant when our game is losing.

    lol! I was thinking the same thing.

    "Hmm.. XFire being used to show something not favorable to GW2... the responses will be about how irrelevant XFire is".

    To be fair, though, it's not only GW2 where that happens. It's the same with any MMO on this site (and elsewhere I imagine).

    Basically:

    XFire stats are favorable to "your game" = Xfire is relevant

    XFire stats are unfavorable to "your game" = Xfire is irrelevant

    Best part is when you see the same people switching arguments to fit the scenario.

     

     

  • Stx11Stx11 West Hills, CAPosts: 415Member
    Originally posted by Calerxes
    Originally posted by Stx11
    Originally posted by Calerxes

    If they give the client away its F2P and not B2P, simple really.

    Not going to happen.

    Can I quote you on that?

    Sure thing - I'm 100% confident on this based on ANet and GW1.

    The game wasn't designed for F2P nor will it ever be. They have other ways to make money.

  • CalerxesCalerxes LondonPosts: 1,630Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by TangentPoint
    Originally posted by Calerxes
    But but but but X-fire is irrelevant when our game is losing.

    lol! I was thinking the same thing.

    "Hmm.. XFire being used to show something not favorable to GW2... the responses will be about how irrelevant XFire is".

    To be fair, though, it's not only GW2 where that happens. It's the same with any MMO on this site (and elsewhere I imagine).

    Basically:

    XFire stats are favorable to "your game" = Xfire is relevant

    XFire stats are unfavorable to "your game" = Xfire is irrelevant

    Best part is when you see the same people switching arguments to fit the scenario.

     

     

     

    So true and adds the overall entertainment of this forum, I think the saying "rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic" is relevant here.

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