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Mass Exodus for MoP... or not?
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They DID add in a command to give you the location of your corpse. See, I played it OLD SCHOOL, before Turbine had to put in such commands to hold your hand.
I saw someone range it at between 2-4g, depending on the market.
Dude, no way, you're a total liar. Stop spreading lies around.
I joke, I joke.
Played-Everything
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We all know xfire doesnt mean much....but clicking on that link right now shows wow more than double GW2....stop quoting pre expansion lol
It's a good game.
Here is a comparison on abilities my WoW Warlock and my GW2 necro
http://www.wowhead.com/class=9#abilities
Warlock = 142 abilities across 3 specializations Affliction, Demonolgy, Destruction
Necro = 67 abilities 25 main abilities, 14 water abilites, 20 utilities, 8 down state (4/water, 4 land)
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/List_of_necromancer_skills
Take away the necro's the 18 water abilities, since 95% of the time you wont be able to use them The necro is left with about 50 abilities. OOOF which only 15 at a time can be used.
Well it's not like one would ever use all 142 abilities that a Warlock has in WoW, since there is an optimal build and all. From my past experience in WoW, i've only ever needed to use about 5 - 10 abilities max, maybe about 5 more depending on whether it's PVP or PVE.
Also, what does this response have to do with the increase in the population of WoW servers?
Well, you're comparing a game with a game + 4 expansions.
And you might want do the math again, since you're counting on specializations you might throw traits in there too.
That tends to be a subjective. Some people are most comfortable with the old form of quest. Something vague like "Something in the world needs doing, go do it" ^^ Others are not at all amused, or entertained by such. The rise of clue sites on the internet, has demonstrated that reality.
The phrase "hand holding" tends to be used by the "challenge" brigade, to look down on anyone who doesn't agree with their lofty definitions. Its an all too human trait, to insist on pulling others down, to build oneself up.
At least part of the hatred directed at WoW is due to some peoples need to do that, and their rose colored memories of games gone past. I started these games with UO, so I've seen their evolution as they have gone main stream.
This is true but it's way too early. Don't forget: It's a marathon, not a 100 m sprint. Give it 2-3 weeks before we can analyze the results.
What amaizes me is the people that dont discount the folks bragging about GW2 being higher right before MoP launched...but then attack someone who points out that its not the case anymore....;)
But just to delve into your point for a moment, GW2 is the only high profile MMO to launch during a big down time in WoW. SWTOR sold as many copied as GW2, but launched at the same time as Dragon Soul. GW2 launched when there hadn't been new content released in wow for 10 months.
He takes any opportunity to point out GW2's shortcomings. It's a welcome attitude, but most of the time he comes off as simply trying too hard. This skillset comparison is an example: making a "by-the-numbers" comparison of a vanilla and a 4-expansion game. He also didn't count traits from GW2.
Didn't RIFT do something similar? Release during Cata when the game took an arrow to the kneecap of their playerbase?
7 full 15 high 2 med....
What's interesting is that its past midnight
those figures would be reliable if everyone used xfire.....which they don't.
I'm gonna release a client named Y-fire....2000 out of what 6-7b? on this ball might use it......1 plays WOW...rest plays SWTOR.....does that make SWTOR the best MMO in the world?
"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"
We are talking purely useless xfire numbers here. Fanboys decided to point out that GW2 had higher numbers than WoW before MoP launched, then jumped on me when i pointed out that WoW was now more than double GW2 on xfire. That in turn was met with the statement of GW2 completing some impossible feat of overtaking wow before MoP launched. I then had to point out that had SWTOR launched the exact same time instead of GW2, it prob would have as well. Rift did not overtake WoW in xfire because Rift launched during the heart of WoW tier11, even though it sold similer number of coppies as GW2.
GW2 Launced during one of the biggest content down times in WoW's history (second only to ICC's 1year+ run, in which no high profile MMO launched), when many players wernt even logging in anymore (not necessarly cancelled their subs).
We literally went from GW2 fanboys thumipng their chests about xFire, to now creating Xfire doesnt matter threads left and right now that WoW has again dwarfed all other MMOs in tracked hours played.
All I am pointing out is how amusing it is :-)
This ^
I seriously don't think they are aiming for the same demographic. GW2 is for people who never cared for or are simply tired of WoW style game design. It is obvious that Arenanet is not trying to out WoW Blizzard when they declined to make yet another gear oriented raid centric end game.
People that enjoy that style game would not like GW2 and people who are tired of it will love GW2. It ain't rocket science folks. Now people that do like thta style game will have plenty to choose from, LoTRO, SWToR, WoW, EQII etc and those of us who are tired of it and are ready for something different have a option also. I plan to never do a raid again, GW2's dungeons are a perfect fit for me as well as it's PvE and Pv. Maybe in a year or two there may be some other choices along the line of GW2's design but for now I would rather chew razor blades than go back to a quest hub gear grind raid end game style MMO. I have been playing those for ten years now and SWToR was my last.
Oh and for the record at 1:15 PM on a Friday afternoon, N America 5 servers at full, 17 at high. 2 at medium. Not much of a exodus if you ask me
I miss DAoC
Based on the latest X-Fire figures we have, WoW has close to (but not more than) double the number of hours but less than 1,000 more players.
X-Fire numbers are pretty silly to look at, but will you come back and comment in a month if WoW's number of hours plummet again (as seems likely, since people simply don't play 10+ hours/day after the first few days)?
WoW's numbers will surely drop. The question is, will gw2 bounce back? I don't think it will unless they release a miracle patch, since it was in a steady decline even before MoP.
The Hours Played for GW2 are in decline, number of players has been holding up pretty well.
GW2 doesn't need a "miracle patch" as the Servers were overcrowded at launch and are pretty healthy right now.
Roughly 9,000 players playing an average of 4 hours a day for X-Fire extrapolates very well for GW2. Like I've already posted, unlike SWTOR you aren't seeing any posts about empty servers or the inability to get groups. Instead you are still seeing people complaining about WvW Queues. For now, things are quite good and I know for sure it will get a population boost next month as ANet is pretty famous for their Holiday Events (and Mad King looks awesome!)
You could've stopped right there. We all sit here endlessly arguing about which is better and what's total fail and it comes down to the simple reality that we're all attracted to different things.