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Originally posted by alexmino Bitter people angry that it's selling better than GW2.
not really, if MOP < GW2 then the kungfu pandabois would be running rampant in GW2!
WoW has the community it deserves, let's hope they stay there.
Although I loved WOW players who entered EVE Online till they went to the cloning office. ^^
"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"
I give this thread a 0 out of 10 , what is it worth to you, nothing.
Same as meta critics of games.... Its people opinion, let it be professional or not... it will be based upon what they want and feel like saying at the time their fingers hit a keyboard.
Make your own Reviews, Be your own Judge.
I dont play WoW , I personally dont like the direction they took since WoTK , I dont scream it up high that they ruined everything, etc.
3.3 on Metacritic?
Must be an awesome game if the trolls are trying so hard.
Originally posted by NightBandit Originally posted by Eir_S Originally posted by Foomerang Gw2 fanboys making alt accounts and bash wow. Then proclaim on their main account that they "never troll other game forums". Happened yesterday a couple times and at least once again today...
You have all the answers. Should I kneel??
Lolz....I also bash wow, but do so in the open as that's how I feel and don't hide behind another account as I'm not bothered what anyone else thinks about me on here anyway. However I find that 3.3 is a little high, but then I never bought it so I'm not able to comment on the game play. IMO it will keep Wow afloat for a few more months that's for sure due to loyal players supporting the game. But alas I feel it's still a dead donkey waiting to be flogged.
You didn't buy it so you can't comment on the gameplay, but the 3.3 is high, even though you never bought it so you can't comment on the gameplay.
Why didn't you just say that 3.3 is high because you don't like the game? Obviosly your credibility sits somewhere between zero and none.
You're probably the same type of person that will tell people a movie sucks that you've never seen, a book was bad that you've never read, or a restaruant isn't any good that you've never eaten at.
Yeah, that's a lot of credibility you got there.
PS: This is exactly why user ratings, and player opinion is just about the worste way to decide if you should play something. People as a rule are simply not fair or objective in there opinions. This guy came right out and said he didn't play it and that the really low rating is still to high. Why in the world would you ever trust Meta critic user ratings when you have people just like this going to meta critic to rate games they never played.
Originally posted by Eir_S I'm not sure why people are rating it already, maybe they played the beta.. maybe not. But some of these negative reviews are bashing the game because of network issues and load times. I didn't agree with giving GW2 a lower score because of those things, and I don't agree with giving MoP a lower score because of those things. Still, let's face it... Metacritic is even more useless in this case, pretty much anyone who was going to buy this is never going to read that site or make their decisions based on its reviews...
Agreed. This is why user ratings are separated from (somewhat) professional reviews. A user stakes absolutely nothing in how they score this or any game.
I'd dare say that a large majority of those user ratings are based on opinions that have 0 relevence to me, as are the ratings for most other games.
That's why this "sports team mentality" I see toward games drives me nuts. I have to wade through a sea of absolute BS in order to get to information that might matter to me.
Originally posted by Eazydzzz Originally posted by Nitth It hasnt even been out a day lol..
That could be why the score is so high. A lot of the people giving it 10s probably didn't play beta.
Pre-ordered MoP, played beta and asked a refund for MoP (Blizzard refunded me fully) and quited WoW indefinately. Damn, never seen so much garbage in any game's expansion as in MoP
SO yeah... 3.3/10 is rather high. I'll give it a -10
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Originally posted by Robsolf Originally posted by Eir_S I'm not sure why people are rating it already, maybe they played the beta.. maybe not. But some of these negative reviews are bashing the game because of network issues and load times. I didn't agree with giving GW2 a lower score because of those things, and I don't agree with giving MoP a lower score because of those things. Still, let's face it... Metacritic is even more useless in this case, pretty much anyone who was going to buy this is never going to read that site or make their decisions based on its reviews...
"sports team mentality"
That has got to be the best, most accurate way I have seen people opinions towards games described. It is so perfectly spot on.
Originally posted by coretex666 It shows how reliable the user reviews on Metacritic are.
Careful, or you will recieve a 500 word essay from some idiot as to why Metacritic is indeed usefull...
Originally posted by mark2123 How ironic that the people calling it a kids game are acting like 2yr olds by giving it a zero. That's just redicilously childish. You know they none of them have played it because they already made their minds up before it came out, so it's irrelevant, and pathetic. I've been playing since the launch and am enjoying it more than I did GW2, which I can't even make myself log into now as its the same content and tasks repeated on every map. MoP is fun and it ticks my boxes. Which is all I care about, not some skewed, pointless score affected by people not even interested in or playing the game.
.. And this is better when people give it a perfect 10/10 just to spite others for giving it a zero? You could say that it deserves a 10, but to others it deserves that zero.
Same thing happened with Cataclysm .. which was a truly bland expansion, which should have just been a series of free patches. People gave that monstronsity a perfect 10 out of 10 as well. I guess now more gamers are just fed up with Activision's involvement, as we're witnessing.
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Originally posted by Karteli Originally posted by mark2123 How ironic that the people calling it a kids game are acting like 2yr olds by giving it a zero. That's just redicilously childish. You know they none of them have played it because they already made their minds up before it came out, so it's irrelevant, and pathetic. I've been playing since the launch and am enjoying it more than I did GW2, which I can't even make myself log into now as its the same content and tasks repeated on every map. MoP is fun and it ticks my boxes. Which is all I care about, not some skewed, pointless score affected by people not even interested in or playing the game.
Talk about taking his post out of context... There's a huge gap between "this game doesn't deserve a 0/10" and "this game deserves a 10/10" and there is obviously middle ground that you are ignoring.
For the most part, people giving it a 0/10 is angry or upset. Likewise, people giving it a 10/10 are overly optimistic and unrealistc about it ("fanboys"). To break it down a bit:
1) The expansion has been out for less than 2 days. If you're looking at ratings now, the majority will not be based on representative experiences of the expansion. One day is hardly enough for most people to even level up to the new cap, let alone try out a lot of the new content.
2) A score of 0/10 implies to me that the game is utterly destroyed or broken by this new addition, which simply isn't the case. This is the game's fourth expansion. Are people expecting the expansion to instantly change it into something completely different? It's essentially more of the game that millions of people play. Someone can be a panda and it makes your talking cow upset? Someone can play fake pokemon while you raid heroic modes? Oh, the horror!
3) It's nearly pointless to rate a game based on launch issues. People are really crying about the gyrocopter stuff for Alliance? I logged in, spent 10 minutes spamming rockets at the boats, thinking "well, this sucks"... then got credit and moved on. After the first hub, people spread out and I can't recall another show-stopping moment (besides one or two evade-bugged mobs and a bugged achievement that required a relog).
MoP what is left to say....its been said a 1000000 times...
It started as a april fools joke but got turned in reality, i woulnt believed it untill i saw Chris Metzen making the announcement with a strange vibe in his voice...as like he was disapointed to accounce panda's and pandaland.But i could be wrong.
Let me say i played games from Sillicon Synapse when most readers here where still in dipers.I saw it grow from ROck and roll racing to the warcraft RTS series and beyond.Warcraft brought a unique mmo on the market, at 1st i hated the style of graphics, but later on i loved it.
I rolled on Stormscale when WoW launched i quickly used the opertunity of FCM to Korgal and get of Swescale On Korgal i joined Lowlands companions and quickly boosted up to a top guild named RELIC.made it to rank 13 with 18 hours a day grinding Warsong and i loved it.Raided 6 days a week and had a blastEpics costed blood sweat and tears.
Then TBC came it was a hell of an expansion hardcore dungeons and hardcore raids.Arena introduced and was sold to it untill season 3 when i had enough glorified duals.Me and my wife where always around 1700/1900 rating as warlock / hunter <----retardedly frustrated to play.
But man TBC was epic....
Then came WotLK and epics started to rain, dungeon finder was heaven on earth for rude psychopaths and item griefing ninja'sGame became slightly worse but Ulduar made WoTLK epic.
Cataclytm....Community's where gone drastic class changes for the worse...and there i lost my interest for the 1st time playing WoW...I could swallow Wintergrasp design but Toll Barad....it was so bad and raiding guilds where hard to find.Loot whores and i cant play on wipe nights, brb when you got it on farm mentality...I quited 1 month after Cata and came back midway to see it got better, but it got worse and worse.
MoP...Iam realy speechles about MoPPanda's <---no way i wanne raid or pvp with that shit beside mePokemon style battles for pets...come on blizzard so much recources spend for a minigame that could be used to something alot more epic.Dumbed down talant systems...once againAnd the many many death servers you choose to ignore...thats something i hate you for.
I have 10 chars like my wife we both got all profesions on max.We transferd from Korgal <--death server to Laughing Skull <----death server to Bladefist<-----death server.
3x20 chars i believe its 20 euro per char per transfer...calculate that amount of money.And i refuse to transfer yet again.
Greed is what makes Blizzard worlds now, not the players who builded their emperium, we the veterans who played and payed since 2004...we dint get nothing back not even a email or a special mount or a free transfer...
Blizzard lost their touch with the playerbase, and this has caused massive damage.it affected my future perchase directly as i will not ever buy 1 single Blizzard product again.I vote with my wallet.
Originally posted by Mothanos [mod edit]
I didn't care much for Cata, however MoP hasn't been out long enough and personally I find it more on the track of what I want out of WoW for now. I used to be on the 'hardcore' track however I just can't do it anymore, my game style has changed quite drastically. The WoW currently I think caters to my more demanding real life.
Btw I think Rock n Roll racing was the sweet spot for the company. It'll never get as epic as that.
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Originally posted by Eazydzzz http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/world-of-warcraft-mists-of-pandaria/user-reviews?sort-by=date&num_items=100 Just thought I would share. A 3.3 seems a little high. I am pretty angry about spending $40 on MoP!
I don't even play it (play GW2 here) but I think that score is ridiculously low and borderline mean.
MoP is actually pretty well made and impressive from the movies my guildmates posted. It was actually done much better than Cata). Probably deserves a 7 in terms of expansion quality.
If you put it side by side with fresh new games of course it will be low. Any expansions will be.
82%+ of the low votes are 0/10(24 out of 133 of the negative ones are NOT 0, many of them are 1 or 2 with like 5 of them 4) yeah thats legit, what ever you think about WoW it is still one of the better MMO's, its accessible, has loads of content, and a huge active community. MC is a blight on the gaming industry, they really need to start policing their users, or just remove the user score all together.
I havent played WoW since Cata, for me it was the last straw the game changed, i changed and it just didn't feel the same any more.
Tried SWTOR, bought GW2 and got burntout during the beta and it was sadly too late for a refund, never played the game since the headstart to me it took the worst aspects of WoW and perfected them. Again doesnt mean it's a bad game but every thing i liked in Vanila(and somewhat during TBC) was not there.
No socializing, no group effort, nothing, WoW was at it's best when people had to work together, gearing up healers, tanks, farming reagents for raid consumbales, running new members trought attunment quests, guild marching trough the capital when you've just slain onyxia or blackwing, whole realms comming together to open the gates to AQ..
None of that exists in MMO's these days, not even the "hardcore" ones, maybe except for EVE but i really dont enjoy 99% of the mechanics of that game.
WoW died when people stopped using the forums, during WoTLK and the little i've played of Cata i didnt knew any one on the server excpet for guild mates, back in the old days you knew the players on both factions there was communication and the sence of community.
And before some GW2 fanboy comes and jumps in that its not the games fault its the player, it is 100% the games fault, games should facilitate behaivour trough gameplay thats the difference between good game design and bad. I don't expect solitaire to facilitate socializing, but I'm sure as hell expect it from an MMO and especially an MMORPG.
3.3, eh? Interestingly, that's 3.2 points higher than the review I would give to Metacritic's User "Reviews". It gets a 0.1 rather than 0.0 because it doesn't deserve to get the same rating as the one I'd give to YouTube's comments.
It's a 3.7 now, but it really doesn't mean anything. Not for a high profile game like WoW.
How can you even score something that's been out a few hours? Something as huge as an MMO? Rhetorical, you can't of course, you can just expel bile for whatever reason and because there's a button to push (0 through 10) that seems to make your opinion relevant.
I don't even trust the proffesional review aggretated score and haven't FOR YEARS; these people *do not* know more about games than I do. How can they?
Could be this. But could as well be people thinking it's "fun" to 0-bomb popular games.
Because i can.I'm Hopeful For Every Game, Until the Fan Boys Attack My Games. Then the Knives Come Out.Logic every gamers worst enemy.