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GW2 isn't Anti-Social - You are!

JayarisJayaris InvercargillPosts: 308Member

Sure, I'll admit you could have been more social in other games. You might have even, I don't know talked to a few people here and there, participated in some group activities, raid bosses and the like. You might even of felt like you were playing in a larger community of gamers, but it doesn't matter.

The fact is, is that if you want a social experience you have to seek it out. You can't rely on mutual interests and forced interactions, think about it, do you go to a hobbiest club or a spin class in real life, or do you simply walk up to a fellow on the street minding his own business: "Hey bro, let's be friends!"

Of course, you go up to the guy on the street. Why the hell wouldn't you, you anti-social or something? Spin class, let me tell you if you need to go to organized group activities to meet new people then you need to learn some social skills, fuck everything, interact with people everywhere, but the places designed to facilitate it.

Life, is not responsible for making you friends, you are, so don't expect people to organize this shit around you.

It's the same in GW2, why should they make grouping mandatory? Is grouping mandatory in real-life? Hell no.

You just walk into an office building and start tappity tapping at a computer and everyone else can mind their fucking business, why? Because you don't need their help, everything in the real world is designed for individual completion.

"But, back in the day, when we had Trinity and people were forced to work together, they had to talk. Ice breakers like, 'What spec ar e you bra?' and 'How you doin' sonny?' were the norm. How come it isn't in Guild Wars 2?"

'Cause Guild Wars 2 is trying not to shove it's social penis down your throat of course, they want you to have to go out on a limb and have to expose yourself on the internet, so that YOU can shove YOUR social penis down somebody elses throat aka. Making a Friend.

So, I say again to anybody complaining about how this game is anti-social or that it's solo-orientated mechanisms lead towards isolation and single player esque multiplayer experiences. I say again, to fuck you good sirs and madams.

For it is you, the basement dwelling, attic conversion, three bed condo living anti-socialists that are anti-social. All GW2 is guilty of is letting you be yourselves, and if the real world were so forgiving you could live your entire life in a miserable depressing isolation.

So be thankful, or go back to WoW or any other game in the past ten years that actually realized MMORPG's has the word Multiplayer in it, and that Multiplayer RPG's were originally designed with player limits as group activities for people with shared interests. Because GW2 forgot about that with the new knowledge of how awesome they are, and they are saying to fuck you too.

Cheers, GW2 Fan.

 

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  • YakkinYakkin irvine, CAPosts: 919Member
    I kinda agree with your message about people needing to try to be social themselves to get socialization, but I get the feeling your actual post execution is only going to set off more landmines than it suppresses.
  • tank017tank017 Glendale, CAPosts: 2,192Member
    I really don't want to read your wall of text, but any game where you can complete 90 percent of its content solo, then it promotes anti socializing
  • KakkzookaKakkzooka Waterbury, CTPosts: 591Member

    I have to disagree. I'm the biggest (hyperbole) GW2 apologist on this site, and GW2's game structure does not foster nor encourage communication. Part of the genius of the dyanmic event structure that doesn't require grouping offsets the social aspect of an MMO. There are plenty of people playing, rezzing one another and doing events, but they aren't talking to one another. They're playing this as a solo experience until they get to dungeons.

     

    I would love some Barrens style chat somewhere in this game.

    Re: SWTOR

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  • RokurgeptaRokurgepta wallington, NJPosts: 2,136Member
    Originally posted by tank017
    I really don't want to read your wall of text, but any game where you can complete 90 percent of its content solo, then it promotes anti socializing

     Promotes being anti social? People really need their hands held to even be social? FFS.

  • AdamTMAdamTM Frankfurt Am MainPosts: 1,376Member
    Originally posted by Jayaris

    Sure, I'll admit you could have been more social in other games. You might have even, I don't know talked to a few people here and there, participated in some group activities, raid bosses and the like. You might even of felt like you were playing in a larger community of gamers, but it doesn't matter.

    The fact is, is that if you want a social experience you have to seek it out. You can't rely on mutual interests and forced interactions, think about it, do you go to a hobbiest club or a spin class in real life, or do you simply walk up to a fellow on the street minding his own business: "Hey bro, let's be friends!"

    Of course, you go up to the guy on the street. Why the hell wouldn't you, you anti-social or something? Spin class, let me tell you if you need to go to organized group activities to meet new people then you need to learn some social skills, fuck everything, interact with people everywhere, but the places designed to facilitate it.

    Life, is not responsible for making you friends, you are, so don't expect people to organize this shit around you.

    It's the same in GW2, why should they make grouping mandatory? Is grouping mandatory in real-life? Hell no.

    You just walk into an office building and start tappity tapping at a computer and everyone else can mind their fucking business, why? Because you don't need their help, everything in the real world is designed for individual completion.

    "But, back in the day, when we had Trinity and people were forced to work together, they had to talk. Ice breakers like, 'What spec ar e you bra?' and 'How you doin' sonny?' were the norm. How come it isn't in Guild Wars 2?"

    'Cause Guild Wars 2 is trying not to shove it's social penis down your throat of course, they want you to have to go out on a limb and have to expose yourself on the internet, so that YOU can shove YOUR social penis down somebody elses throat aka. Making a Friend.

    So, I say again to anybody complaining about how this game is anti-social or that it's solo-orientated mechanisms lead towards isolation and single player esque multiplayer experiences. I say again, to fuck you good sirs and madams.

    For it is you, the basement dwelling, attic conversion, three bed condo living anti-socialists that are anti-social. All GW2 is guilty of is letting you be yourselves, and if the real world were so forgiving you could live your entire life in a miserable depressing isolation.

    So be thankful, or go back to WoW or any other game in the past ten years that actually realized MMORPG's has the word Multiplayer in it, and that Multiplayer RPG's were originally designed with player limits as group activities for people with shared interests. Because GW2 forgot about that with the new knowledge of how awesome they are, and they are saying to fuck you too.

    Cheers, GW2 Fan.

     

    Please never walk up to me and ask me to be friends with you.

    Thanks.

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  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by tank017
    I really don't want to read your wall of text, but any game where you can complete 90 percent of its content solo, then it promotes anti socializing

    this just isn't true.. but if that's what you want to believe... I'm also curious how you could even solo in this game aside from crafting I have yet to do an event without people running with me.. also I'd really love to see anyone solo a META event which there are 2 in every zone I have seen so far. Iv'e ran into numerous champions that have so much HP i could hardly dent them after kiting them for 10 min.. Fact is there is no way to tell how much of the game is soloable yet since there are just to many people around fighting with you. Now if you are the type that feels fighting alongside others helping each other complete the same event is playing solo then that's another story

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • JayarisJayaris InvercargillPosts: 308Member
    Originally posted by AdamTM
    Originally posted by Jayaris

    Sure, I'll admit you could have been more social in other games. You might have even, I don't know talked to a few people here and there, participated in some group activities, raid bosses and the like. You might even of felt like you were playing in a larger community of gamers, but it doesn't matter.

    The fact is, is that if you want a social experience you have to seek it out. You can't rely on mutual interests and forced interactions, think about it, do you go to a hobbiest club or a spin class in real life, or do you simply walk up to a fellow on the street minding his own business: "Hey bro, let's be friends!"

    Of course, you go up to the guy on the street. Why the hell wouldn't you, you anti-social or something? Spin class, let me tell you if you need to go to organized group activities to meet new people then you need to learn some social skills, fuck everything, interact with people everywhere, but the places designed to facilitate it.

    Life, is not responsible for making you friends, you are, so don't expect people to organize this shit around you.

    It's the same in GW2, why should they make grouping mandatory? Is grouping mandatory in real-life? Hell no.

    You just walk into an office building and start tappity tapping at a computer and everyone else can mind their fucking business, why? Because you don't need their help, everything in the real world is designed for individual completion.

    "But, back in the day, when we had Trinity and people were forced to work together, they had to talk. Ice breakers like, 'What spec ar e you bra?' and 'How you doin' sonny?' were the norm. How come it isn't in Guild Wars 2?"

    'Cause Guild Wars 2 is trying not to shove it's social penis down your throat of course, they want you to have to go out on a limb and have to expose yourself on the internet, so that YOU can shove YOUR social penis down somebody elses throat aka. Making a Friend.

    So, I say again to anybody complaining about how this game is anti-social or that it's solo-orientated mechanisms lead towards isolation and single player esque multiplayer experiences. I say again, to fuck you good sirs and madams.

    For it is you, the basement dwelling, attic conversion, three bed condo living anti-socialists that are anti-social. All GW2 is guilty of is letting you be yourselves, and if the real world were so forgiving you could live your entire life in a miserable depressing isolation.

    So be thankful, or go back to WoW or any other game in the past ten years that actually realized MMORPG's has the word Multiplayer in it, and that Multiplayer RPG's were originally designed with player limits as group activities for people with shared interests. Because GW2 forgot about that with the new knowledge of how awesome they are, and they are saying to fuck you too.

    Cheers, GW2 Fan.

     

    Please never walk up to me and ask me to be friends with you.

    Thanks.

    A unicorn with a crown is going to be hard to miss, me and you are gonna be fast friends Adam!

    Hi

  • tank017tank017 Glendale, CAPosts: 2,192Member
    Originally posted by Rokurgepta

    Originally posted by tank017
    I really don't want to read your wall of text, but any game where you can complete 90 percent of its content solo, then it promotes anti socializing

     Promotes being anti social? People really need their hands held to even be social? FFS.

     

    Uh yeah it does...i socialize with my friends, but beyond that if its not necessary then why bother? Most don't.
  • Requiem1066Requiem1066 londonPosts: 274Member
    Originally posted by Jayaris

     

     

    Of course, you go up to the guy on the street. Why the hell wouldn't you, you anti-social or something? Spin class, let me tell you if you need to go to organized group activities to meet new people then you need to learn some social skills, fuck everything, interact with people everywhere, but the places designed to facilitate it.

    Stopped reading there since most friendships are made through organised interaction, whether that be school, work, or activities 

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  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer ChairPosts: 5,587Member Uncommon
    For most of the content, you can if you want. Sure, the social tools are there, but it has little to do with the gameplay itself. Again, you can if you want. But there is no advantage to do so. The socials will find people, the introverts will solo, either way, it's not on the game it's on the individual. whether you like it or not, whether it's for you or not, whether it's better or not, Is subjective. While I wouldn't use the term antisocial, GW2 is not the best example of a game made to bring people together.
  • AdamTMAdamTM Frankfurt Am MainPosts: 1,376Member
    Originally posted by Jayaris
    Originally posted by AdamTM
    Originally posted by Jayaris

    Sure, I'll admit you could have been more social in other games. You might have even, I don't know talked to a few people here and there, participated in some group activities, raid bosses and the like. You might even of felt like you were playing in a larger community of gamers, but it doesn't matter.

    The fact is, is that if you want a social experience you have to seek it out. You can't rely on mutual interests and forced interactions, think about it, do you go to a hobbiest club or a spin class in real life, or do you simply walk up to a fellow on the street minding his own business: "Hey bro, let's be friends!"

    Of course, you go up to the guy on the street. Why the hell wouldn't you, you anti-social or something? Spin class, let me tell you if you need to go to organized group activities to meet new people then you need to learn some social skills, fuck everything, interact with people everywhere, but the places designed to facilitate it.

    Life, is not responsible for making you friends, you are, so don't expect people to organize this shit around you.

    It's the same in GW2, why should they make grouping mandatory? Is grouping mandatory in real-life? Hell no.

    You just walk into an office building and start tappity tapping at a computer and everyone else can mind their fucking business, why? Because you don't need their help, everything in the real world is designed for individual completion.

    "But, back in the day, when we had Trinity and people were forced to work together, they had to talk. Ice breakers like, 'What spec ar e you bra?' and 'How you doin' sonny?' were the norm. How come it isn't in Guild Wars 2?"

    'Cause Guild Wars 2 is trying not to shove it's social penis down your throat of course, they want you to have to go out on a limb and have to expose yourself on the internet, so that YOU can shove YOUR social penis down somebody elses throat aka. Making a Friend.

    So, I say again to anybody complaining about how this game is anti-social or that it's solo-orientated mechanisms lead towards isolation and single player esque multiplayer experiences. I say again, to fuck you good sirs and madams.

    For it is you, the basement dwelling, attic conversion, three bed condo living anti-socialists that are anti-social. All GW2 is guilty of is letting you be yourselves, and if the real world were so forgiving you could live your entire life in a miserable depressing isolation.

    So be thankful, or go back to WoW or any other game in the past ten years that actually realized MMORPG's has the word Multiplayer in it, and that Multiplayer RPG's were originally designed with player limits as group activities for people with shared interests. Because GW2 forgot about that with the new knowledge of how awesome they are, and they are saying to fuck you too.

    Cheers, GW2 Fan.

     

    Please never walk up to me and ask me to be friends with you.

    Thanks.

    A unicorn with a crown is going to be hard to miss, me and you are gonna be fast friends Adam!

    You must be resistant to Mace by exposure by now.

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  • JayarisJayaris InvercargillPosts: 308Member
    Originally posted by Requiem1066
    Originally posted by Jayaris

     

     

    Of course, you go up to the guy on the street. Why the hell wouldn't you, you anti-social or something? Spin class, let me tell you if you need to go to organized group activities to meet new people then you need to learn some social skills, fuck everything, interact with people everywhere, but the places designed to facilitate it.

    Stopped reading there since most friendships are made through organised interaction, whether that be school, work, or activities 

    No surprise there, too lazy to read a medium length post, I don't think you got what it takes for a "Street Meet".

    Hi

  • RokurgeptaRokurgepta wallington, NJPosts: 2,136Member
    Originally posted by tank017
    Originally posted by Rokurgepta
    Originally posted by tank017
    I really don't want to read your wall of text, but any game where you can complete 90 percent of its content solo, then it promotes anti socializing

     Promotes being anti social? People really need their hands held to even be social? FFS.

     

    Uh yeah it does...i socialize with my friends, but beyond that if its not necessary then why bother? Most don't.

     Thats the sign of social misfits. If it is not needed they dont do it. I am social in the game because I choose to be, I dont need to be forced to be social. What promotes being antisocial, is being antisocial. You are blaming the game for the shortcomings of people.

  • JayarisJayaris InvercargillPosts: 308Member
    Originally posted by AdamTM
    Originally posted by Jayaris
    Originally posted by AdamTM
    Originally posted by Jayaris

    Sure, I'll admit you could have been more social in other games. You might have even, I don't know talked to a few people here and there, participated in some group activities, raid bosses and the like. You might even of felt like you were playing in a larger community of gamers, but it doesn't matter.

    The fact is, is that if you want a social experience you have to seek it out. You can't rely on mutual interests and forced interactions, think about it, do you go to a hobbiest club or a spin class in real life, or do you simply walk up to a fellow on the street minding his own business: "Hey bro, let's be friends!"

    Of course, you go up to the guy on the street. Why the hell wouldn't you, you anti-social or something? Spin class, let me tell you if you need to go to organized group activities to meet new people then you need to learn some social skills, fuck everything, interact with people everywhere, but the places designed to facilitate it.

    Life, is not responsible for making you friends, you are, so don't expect people to organize this shit around you.

    It's the same in GW2, why should they make grouping mandatory? Is grouping mandatory in real-life? Hell no.

    You just walk into an office building and start tappity tapping at a computer and everyone else can mind their fucking business, why? Because you don't need their help, everything in the real world is designed for individual completion.

    "But, back in the day, when we had Trinity and people were forced to work together, they had to talk. Ice breakers like, 'What spec ar e you bra?' and 'How you doin' sonny?' were the norm. How come it isn't in Guild Wars 2?"

    'Cause Guild Wars 2 is trying not to shove it's social penis down your throat of course, they want you to have to go out on a limb and have to expose yourself on the internet, so that YOU can shove YOUR social penis down somebody elses throat aka. Making a Friend.

    So, I say again to anybody complaining about how this game is anti-social or that it's solo-orientated mechanisms lead towards isolation and single player esque multiplayer experiences. I say again, to fuck you good sirs and madams.

    For it is you, the basement dwelling, attic conversion, three bed condo living anti-socialists that are anti-social. All GW2 is guilty of is letting you be yourselves, and if the real world were so forgiving you could live your entire life in a miserable depressing isolation.

    So be thankful, or go back to WoW or any other game in the past ten years that actually realized MMORPG's has the word Multiplayer in it, and that Multiplayer RPG's were originally designed with player limits as group activities for people with shared interests. Because GW2 forgot about that with the new knowledge of how awesome they are, and they are saying to fuck you too.

    Cheers, GW2 Fan.

     

    Please never walk up to me and ask me to be friends with you.

    Thanks.

    A unicorn with a crown is going to be hard to miss, me and you are gonna be fast friends Adam!

    You must be resistant to Mace by exposure by now.

    Why would you use Mace? We're buddies, fast friends and the like.

    Hi

  • KuppaKuppa Boulder, COPosts: 3,292Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by tank017
    I really don't want to read your wall of text, but any game where you can complete 90 percent of its content solo, then it promotes anti socializing

    How does an option to solo something "promote" anti socializing? Its a matter of choice.

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  • Requiem1066Requiem1066 londonPosts: 274Member
    Originally posted by Jayaris
    Originally posted by Requiem1066
    Originally posted by Jayaris

     

     

    Of course, you go up to the guy on the street. Why the hell wouldn't you, you anti-social or something? Spin class, let me tell you if you need to go to organized group activities to meet new people then you need to learn some social skills, fuck everything, interact with people everywhere, but the places designed to facilitate it.

    Stopped reading there since most friendships are made through organised interaction, whether that be school, work, or activities 

    No surprise there, too lazy to read a medium length post, I don't think you got what it takes for a "Street Meet".

    Thank god .. Ive seen the vids and you can keep your $100 :p 

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  • MosesZDMosesZD Kirkwood, MOPosts: 1,383Member
    Originally posted by Enigmatus
    I kinda agree with your message about people needing to try to be social themselves to get socialization, but I get the feeling your actual post execution is only going to set off more landmines than it suppresses.

     

    Probably.   But it's pretty ironic that someone such as myself, hugely introverted (but not shy) has no problems starting conversations, grouping with people and otherwise getting along.

     

    And I'm, by nature, very solitary.   I have a handful of very close friends and the rest of the world can sod-off as far as I'm concerned...

     

    But it's a social venue, so I trot-out the social-venue rules and get on with it...

  • RokurgeptaRokurgepta wallington, NJPosts: 2,136Member
    Originally posted by Requiem1066
    Originally posted by Jayaris

     

     

    Of course, you go up to the guy on the street. Why the hell wouldn't you, you anti-social or something? Spin class, let me tell you if you need to go to organized group activities to meet new people then you need to learn some social skills, fuck everything, interact with people everywhere, but the places designed to facilitate it.

    Stopped reading there since most friendships are made through organised interaction, whether that be school, work, or activities 

     Yet a game with 2 million people playing is not organised enough for you to make friends in?

  • KuppaKuppa Boulder, COPosts: 3,292Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by tank017
    Originally posted by Rokurgepta
    Originally posted by tank017
    I really don't want to read your wall of text, but any game where you can complete 90 percent of its content solo, then it promotes anti socializing

     Promotes being anti social? People really need their hands held to even be social? FFS.

     

    Uh yeah it does...i socialize with my friends, but beyond that if its not necessary then why bother? Most don't.

    Socializing is not like if it were a goverment mandate. It doesn't need to be imposed upon you in order for it to be sociable. You either choose to be sociable or not. If the game would not allow you to socialize then Id unserstand your argument.

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  • tank017tank017 Glendale, CAPosts: 2,192Member
    Originally posted by Aerowyn

    Originally posted by tank017
    I really don't want to read your wall of text, but any game where you can complete 90 percent of its content solo, then it promotes anti socializing

    this just isn't true.. but if that's what you want to believe... I'm also curious how you could even solo in this game aside from crafting I have yet to do an event without people running with me.. also I'd really love to see anyone solo a META event which there are 2 in every zone I have seen so far. Iv'e ran into numerous champions that have so much HP i could hardly dent them after kiting them for 10 min.. Fact is there is no way to tell how much of the game is soloable yet since there are just to many people around fighting with you. Now if you are the type that feels fighting alongside others helping each other complete the same event is playing solo then that's another story

     

    I'm saying the latter of your post.No, events seldomly doable all by yourself...I'm saying there no real reason to form an actual group with other soloers/strangers doing the same event as you.
  • tordurbartordurbar Alexandria, VAPosts: 429Member
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by tank017
    I really don't want to read your wall of text, but any game where you can complete 90 percent of its content solo, then it promotes anti socializing

    this just isn't true.. but if that's what you want to believe... I'm also curious how you could even solo in this game aside from crafting I have yet to do an event without people running with me.. also I'd really love to see anyone solo a META event which there are 2 in every zone I have seen so far. Iv'e ran into numerous champions that have so much HP i could hardly dent them after kiting them for 10 min.. Fact is there is no way to tell how much of the game is soloable yet since there are just to many people around fighting with you. Now if you are the type that feels fighting alongside others helping each other complete the same event is playing solo then that's another story

    /this  I flat out don't believe any poster who says that this is a solo friendly game. Try playing this game NEVER joining a group and you will see what I mean. Already I am reading forum posters complaining that they are having trouble leveling in the middle of the night because of the dearth of other players.  GW2 is a great game but it is a solo UNFRIENDLY game and that is why I moving on. Thankfully it is non-subscription so I will probably be back from time to time.

  • MosesZDMosesZD Kirkwood, MOPosts: 1,383Member
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
     

    this just isn't true.. but if that's what you want to believe... I'm also curious how you could even solo in this game aside from crafting I have yet to do an event without people running with me.. also I'd really love to see anyone solo a META event which there are 2 in every zone I have seen so far. Iv'e ran into numerous champions that have so much HP i could hardly dent them after kiting them for 10 min.. Fact is there is no way to tell how much of the game is soloable yet since there are just to many people around fighting with you. Now if you are the type that feels fighting alongside others helping each other complete the same event is playing solo then that's another story

     

    Because hyperbole and lies seem to be the way of the troll.   You know, I know and every honest player and forum poster knows you cannot just 'solo' the game.   Very few DEs can be successfully soloed out of the starter areas.   None of the Champions.  None of the meta-events.  

     

    I'd love to see one of these clowns put up a video how they soloed the Harpy Destroyer even in Kessex Hills...   Because that's an event that routinely wipes a score or more players...

  • rutaqrutaq somerville, MAPosts: 428Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by tank017
    I really don't want to read your wall of text, but any game where you can complete 90 percent of its content solo, then it promotes anti socializing

    The main failure of the game is the dumbing down of game play and the removal of any player interdependence beyond a mindless Zerg'ing of content.

     

    They took a game genre based on the need for players to work together which fosters a solid community and tuned it into an Adventure's Daycare filled with solo players that are often confused with some brain impaired AI controlled NPC.

     

     

  • KuppaKuppa Boulder, COPosts: 3,292Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by rutaq
    Originally posted by tank017
    I really don't want to read your wall of text, but any game where you can complete 90 percent of its content solo, then it promotes anti socializing

    The main failure of the game is the dumbing down of game play and the removal of any player interdependence beyond a mindless Zerg'ing of content.

     

    They took a game genre based on the need for players to work together which fosters a solid community and tuned it into an Adventure's Daycare filled with solo players that are often confused with some brain impaired AI controlled NPC.

     

     

    There is a lot of interdependence that goes beyond zerging. And yes, players need to work together.

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  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by tank017
     

     

    I'm saying the latter of your post.No, events seldomly doable all by yourself...I'm saying there no real reason to form an actual group with other soloers/strangers doing the same event as you.

    if In this game I had to stop and ask around for people to "join my party"  for 10 min everytime an event was going on how would that enhance this game in anyway? Also how would a DE play out differntly if they were in your party?

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