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What is the point of this game?

CothorCothor Houston, TXPosts: 163Member Uncommon

WvW seems pointless really. The bonuses are not significant enough to care about.

spvp is pointless as the gear cannot be worn outside

Dungeons are pointless other than farming shards for crafting

It would seem there is no way to elevate yourself beyond others, there is no form of name recognition, no way to be known as the richest, best, etc. Just pointless content.

The graphics and questing system are very good, but once you hit 80 the game just comes to a halt. Perhaps I am missing something here?

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  • HrimnirHrimnir Qeynos, COPosts: 1,597Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Cothor

    WvW seems pointless really. The bonuses are not significant enough to care about.

    spvp is pointless as the gear cannot be worn outside

    Dungeons are pointless other than farming shards for crafting

    It would seem there is no way to elevate yourself beyond others, there is no form of name recognition, no way to be known as the richest, best, etc. Just pointless content.

    The graphics and questing system are very good, but once you hit 80 the game just comes to a halt. Perhaps I am missing something here?

    Nope, not missing anything.  Basically you're 100% correct, its a game made for new age socialists who loathe the idea of putting in work towards something that would gain them any benefit over others.

    Edit: Unless that benefit is purely aesthetic, then its A-OK (logical dissonance what?)

    "The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."

    - Friedrich Nietzsche

  • HomituHomitu Hometown, HIPosts: 2,030Member
    What's the point of Mario?
  • PaRoXiTiCPaRoXiTiC Denison, TXPosts: 576Member Uncommon

    I'm with you now. The game was great, but I am finished with it.

     

    Aren't you never really supposed to be finished with an MMORPG?

  • SirFubarSirFubar SeoulPosts: 397Member

    From that point of view, playing any sort of video game is pointless too. That mentality is beyond me, always the need of some sort of progression to make the players feel great about themselves because they could spend more time ingame to earn that "special thing" that the others won't have. That's why I love eSports games over all those games with their stupid progression, because it's all about skills.

     

  • bcbullybcbully Westland, MIPosts: 8,281Member Uncommon

    inb4 - You want to be a "special snowflake"

     

     

  • FiveballFiveball Weyers Cave, VAPosts: 15Member
    I didnt make it past lvl 9. I made a few other characters all up to that point as well. Tried WvW as well. Nothing especially drew me in. Doesnt seem to be the immersion that my attention demands to stay sane. Now i dont log in anymore.
  • CothorCothor Houston, TXPosts: 163Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by SirFubar
    From that point of view, playing any sort of video game is pointless too.

    I disagree. In other MMOs you can be better than other players by obtaining the best gear and being able to accomplish things that are not possible for them. I want recognition, I want to be known as one of the best in some catagory. This game does not offer that, the game has absolutely no purpose at all. There is no benefit to being level 80 when you could just be level 10. This game is really confusing and it isn't looking like it will have a bright future.

  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer ChairPosts: 5,591Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Homitu
    What's the point of Mario?

    Hell! Let's just break out the ole Coleco Head to Head football and screw this whole MMORPG thing.

     

     

  • FiveballFiveball Weyers Cave, VAPosts: 15Member

    There is no benefit to being level 80 when you could just be level 10. This game is really confusing and it isn't looking like it will have a bright future.

    That quote was a big deal for me as well. This 'mechanic' did not endear me at all to the game and seems to promote more uniformity than anything else.

  • bcbullybcbully Westland, MIPosts: 8,281Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer
    Originally posted by Homitu
    What's the point of Mario?

    Hell! Let's just break out the ole Coleco Head to Head football and screw this whole MMORPG thing.

     

     

     

    I would so kick you ass.

  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer ChairPosts: 5,591Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by bcbully
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer
    Originally posted by Homitu
    What's the point of Mario?

    Hell! Let's just break out the ole Coleco Head to Head football and screw this whole MMORPG thing.

     

     

     

    I would so kick you ass.

    Oh Bring it!.....................

     

     

     

    no, I mean bring your football game, I broke mine years ago.

  • DangerNobuoDangerNobuo Willow River, MNPosts: 85Member Uncommon

    If being a new-age socialist that loves Guild Wars 2 is wrong...

    I don't want to be right!

  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer ChairPosts: 5,591Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Cothor
    [mod edit]

     

     

     

    Reminiscing of youth is hardly flirting.

  • SirFubarSirFubar SeoulPosts: 397Member
    Originally posted by Cothor
    Originally posted by SirFubar
    From that point of view, playing any sort of video game is pointless too.

    I disagree. In other MMOs you can be better than other players by obtaining the best gear and being able to accomplish things that are not possible for them. I want recognition, I want to be known as one of the best in some catagory. This game does not offer that, the game has absolutely no purpose at all. There is no benefit to being level 80 when you could just be level 10. This game is really confusing and it isn't looking like it will have a bright future.

    Srry but HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You just proved me that you are just a noob who needs to have better gear than other to be able to beat them. Welcome to GW2 where its all about skill and not the gear.

    Also you contradict yourself, you said you want recognition (lets take PvP for example here) but at the same time you want to be able to have better gear than other to be able to kill them more easily? What's up with that? It doesn't make any sense since you won't ever get recognition for beating someone with lower gear than you.

    If you want recognition, be one of the top PvP players or one of the top WvW guilds. Being able to have better gear than other won't give you any form of recognition whatsoever.

     

    edit : Also if you disagree then tell me what's the point of playing, for example, any single player games?? Do you think you can get some recognition in those games? Nope, because you play those game to HAVE FUN! If you really need some recognition in whatever you do, I would give you the advise of stopping playing video games and make something more constructive in RL where recognition will really means something.

  • akiira69akiira69 San Diego, CAPosts: 590Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Cothor

    WvW seems pointless really. The bonuses are not significant enough to care about.

    spvp is pointless as the gear cannot be worn outside

    Dungeons are pointless other than farming shards for crafting

    It would seem there is no way to elevate yourself beyond others, there is no form of name recognition, no way to be known as the richest, best, etc. Just pointless content.

    The graphics and questing system are very good, but once you hit 80 the game just comes to a halt. Perhaps I am missing something here?

    Finally people are seeing what I have been saying since Arena.Net said they were going to make GW2. Arena.Net and NCsoft have no concept of end game whether it is PvP or PvE. Everyone laughed at me and said Guild Wars 2 would be different from Guild Wars 1. whelp here it comes

     

    "I TOLD YOU SO!"

    "Possibly we humans can exist without actually having to fight. But many of us have chosen to fight. For what reason? To protect something? Protect what? Ourselves? The future? If we kill people to protect ourselves and this future, then what sort of future is it, and what will we have become? There is no future for those who have died. And what of those who did the killing? Is happiness to be found in a future that is grasped with blood stained hands? Is that the truth?"

  • JorielJoriel PortoPosts: 177Member Uncommon
    the point is to have fun

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  • AwDiddumsAwDiddums Great YarmouthPosts: 397Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Cothor
    Originally posted by SirFubar
    From that point of view, playing any sort of video game is pointless too.

    I disagree. In other MMOs you can be better than other players by obtaining the best gear and being able to accomplish things that are not possible for them. I want recognition, I want to be known as one of the best in some catagory. This game does not offer that, the game has absolutely no purpose at all. There is no benefit to being level 80 when you could just be level 10. This game is really confusing and it isn't looking like it will have a bright future.

    I'd love to know the name of this MMO you can play where your character will end up being totally unique and more powerful than all the other players around you, because afaik any player in every MMO out there can at some point attain the same gear, same points, same achievments, same everything as everyone else around them.

    If the OP has to ask "whats the point" then playing MMO's aren't for you.

     

     

  • akiira69akiira69 San Diego, CAPosts: 590Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Joriel
    the point is to have fun

    how do you have fun in game that is boring?

    "Possibly we humans can exist without actually having to fight. But many of us have chosen to fight. For what reason? To protect something? Protect what? Ourselves? The future? If we kill people to protect ourselves and this future, then what sort of future is it, and what will we have become? There is no future for those who have died. And what of those who did the killing? Is happiness to be found in a future that is grasped with blood stained hands? Is that the truth?"

  • akiira69akiira69 San Diego, CAPosts: 590Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by AwDiddums
    Originally posted by Cothor
    Originally posted by SirFubar
    From that point of view, playing any sort of video game is pointless too.

    I disagree. In other MMOs you can be better than other players by obtaining the best gear and being able to accomplish things that are not possible for them. I want recognition, I want to be known as one of the best in some catagory. This game does not offer that, the game has absolutely no purpose at all. There is no benefit to being level 80 when you could just be level 10. This game is really confusing and it isn't looking like it will have a bright future.

    I'd love to know the name of this MMO you can play where your character will end up being totally unique and more powerful than all the other players around you, because afaik any player in every MMO out there can at some point attain the same gear, same points, same achievments, same everything as everyone else around them.

    If the OP has to ask "whats the point" then playing MMO's aren't for you.

     

     

    SWG Pre-CU, EVE Online need I say more?

    "Possibly we humans can exist without actually having to fight. But many of us have chosen to fight. For what reason? To protect something? Protect what? Ourselves? The future? If we kill people to protect ourselves and this future, then what sort of future is it, and what will we have become? There is no future for those who have died. And what of those who did the killing? Is happiness to be found in a future that is grasped with blood stained hands? Is that the truth?"

  • CothorCothor Houston, TXPosts: 163Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by AwDiddums
    Originally posted by Cothor
    Originally posted by SirFubar
    From that point of view, playing any sort of video game is pointless too.

    I disagree. In other MMOs you can be better than other players by obtaining the best gear and being able to accomplish things that are not possible for them. I want recognition, I want to be known as one of the best in some catagory. This game does not offer that, the game has absolutely no purpose at all. There is no benefit to being level 80 when you could just be level 10. This game is really confusing and it isn't looking like it will have a bright future.

    I'd love to know the name of this MMO you can play where your character will end up being totally unique and more powerful than all the other players around you, because afaik any player in every MMO out there can at some point attain the same gear, same points, same achievments, same everything as everyone else around them.

    If the OP has to ask "whats the point" then playing MMO's aren't for you.

    I've been playing mmos since 1997. In every successful mmo, there is a way for players who work hard to be recognized in some way. Guild Wars 2 does not have that. If you don't understand my point, you don't know shit about mmos.

     

    In other games players "can" obtain the things that you have, but the reality is that most will not be able to due to lack of time and/or skill. Therefore, you are seperated because you have put in the hard work.

     

     

     

  • bcbullybcbully Westland, MIPosts: 8,281Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Joriel
    the point is to have fun

  • tank017tank017 Glendale, CAPosts: 2,192Member
    Originally posted by akiira69
    Originally posted by Joriel
    the point is to have fun

    how do you have fun in game that is boring?

    if thats the case then its time to move along to another game.

  • HrimnirHrimnir Qeynos, COPosts: 1,597Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by SirFubar

    From that point of view, playing any sort of video game is pointless too. That mentality is beyond me, always the need of some sort of progression to make the players feel great about themselves because they could spend more time ingame to earn that "special thing" that the others won't have. That's why I love eSports games over all those games with their stupid progression, because it's all about skills.

     

    Ands thats fine.  But you dont see us loading up your skill based games and whining on the forums and bitching to developers that they dont have enough progression of character?  No, we go play the games we enjoy instead of ruining other people games.

    Thats what happened in the MMO industry,  A bunch of non MMO players came in, made a big fuss about the CORE ASPECTS of what makes an MMORPG an MMORPG, and now you have the glowing piece of shit that is the mmo of current times.

    "The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."

    - Friedrich Nietzsche

  • tabindextabindex Rancho Cucamonga, CAPosts: 70Member

    This is what happens when a game is designed for everyone to be a winner. 

     

    Oh well at least borderlands and torchlight are pretty fun for now.

     

    :(

  • TheIronLegionTheIronLegion Columbia, SCPosts: 269Member

    Having fun. Unless you think having fun is pointless too.

    It sounds like you just want to stand above everyone and look down on them. We really dont care how long you've been playing MMO's or how deeply you think you understand them some of us don't have fun being the end all beat all. There are people that exist that think that being the best is boring. That just having fun with a game is what's most important. Why do I need this awesome gear that no one else will obtain for whatever reason(Lazy, wrong time wrong place, hax?). If I can win every fight, kill everything, and never be defeated then what is the point of the game? You see what I did there? Just flipped your whole point around. You say a game that's about having fun and lacks gear progression and e-peen stroking is pointless and I say your idea is pointless.

    Although, if you think about it, with that mentality all games should appear pointless. Halo: Why am I shooting these guys. What have they ever done to me? The Elder Scrolls: Why do I need to play this game? Killing these dragons is so boring and pointless. World of Warcraft: Why do i need to grind to max level just to raid 5 days a week and 'maybe' get a piece of gear since I'll be one of 50 people there...

    You see what I mean? That mentality just doesn't work here. Perhaps the game just isnt for you...

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