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The CRZ drama shows just what a sad state WoW has become
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I've seen way too many complaints from people regarding the new CRZ ranging from "I choose low pop servers so I can quest in peace and now I can't" to "I can no longer choose when I pvp on a pvp server" and to be honest I could go on. Now CRZs probably need tweaking somewhat to get just right but really.. an MMO developer trying to breathe new life into the open world and to actually make it feel like a real MMORPG again.. only WoW players would consider it a bad thing. I hope there are some people (ghostcrawler I'm looking at you mr old EQ guy you) at the Blizzard development team who feel partially responsible for this weird breed of supposed MMORPG gamer that WoW gave dirty man-birth to.
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Great now the players who don't want world pvp can go to the pve servers.
I can care less if they cry about it, in fact I might just go log on to my 85 rogue and start ganking lowbies to convince them to change servers...
PvE servers are better than PvP, because I choose when I want to open world PvP. I go every once in awhile to orgrimmar with a raid of my friends to remind the orcs who's boss XD PvE let's you choose to PvP or not. PvP you have no choice, so ganking insues. The MMO community as a whole is nothing like it used to be. You won't find a single guild on any PvP server that is a "police" guild....so you can gank forever and nothing will happen to you...to me that's just not fun. I guess I outgrew being a 12 year old XD
I like the CRZs myself. There's more people to play with this way.
Unfortunately I care about it.. because those players won't go to a pve server.. they can't take the heat but refuse to get out of the kitchen and are waiting (inevitably probably) for Blizzard to come to the rescue and save them. It's probably only a matter of time before Blizzard gives people an opt out feature or something so they don't have to worry so much about getting ganked.
You need to let it go, why worry about those you seek to discredit? It seems completely and utterly pointless to me.
I agree, Blizzard seems to be implementing tools to allow players to play together, dungeon finder, raid finder, battle tags, cross realm zones.
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Less talents but more choice. I like the new system.
just goes to show u how strong the wow community is....not like GW2 where the developers dont give a fuck they can ban anyone for any reason cuz they can. They controll the fishing pole the players are the fish, you take the bait(game) they can cut your free at any time(ban).
Less talents, same amount of skills. I think some people look at the new talent system and think that is all the skills a players gets, you still get all your class skills but now talents are more like signature skills rather than +1% dps or +3s duration on a skill etc.
I am playing on one of the least populated servers, it is fine at max level, never had a problem. The problem is when leveling. The low level zones are dead. That is what makes CRZ's perfect. The lvl 85 zones don't need merging, but the low level zones are dead.
Good for Blizzard for finding a solution to this.
The CRZ is the main reason I am even considering hopping back onto WoW for the first time in a year and a half, as well as buying MoP. I doubt it'll hold my interest in the long-term, but it'll be much better than wandering around for hours and seeing maybe 1 or 2 others.
If the game doesn't feel alive, then the game feels dead. If the game feels dead, I lose interest in playing. Simple as that. This is a big step forward.
People need to stop blaming Blizzard or the game for their own anti-social behavior -- which definitely seems to be the root of the complaints.
Wait. Blizzard did something that brings the "MM" back into their MMO and you are complaining that it worked?
I think blizz has made billions of this game so I think it should go FTP ...with a cosmetic cash shop like GW2
Really, I would like to play but being head of a family and having a recuring subs is a pain in my wallet....
Playing an MMO and choosing a low pop server so you don't meet people...that's a rather strange paradox.
If you don't want open world PvP, go to a PvE server. If you don't want to meet people and play something like an MMO go play Kingdoms of Amalur.
People obviously forget what it used to be like about 6 or 7 years ago, when it was actually *gasp* dangerous and...unpredictable....and dare I say thrilling to move around contested areas.
It was part of the immersion and after all it's called World of Warcraft not World of Let'sAllGetAlongCraft.
Come to think of it, most people who are now complaining about these things probably never even played WoW when questing was like that.
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I think it is a stupid idea for ALL servers.. PVP sure make them more active. But just adds drama and problems for PVE servers.
After a little thought.. i would bet this is what Titan is going to use. And WOW is the test bed.
Thats an interesting after thought you got thar.
As a concept CRZ could and would work in group heavy games it would actually be a delight with a larger world and mobs to farm in that group.
In a single person levelling game which is what levelling in wow really is. Its a disaster.
Just curious did you even play WoW at launch or on a pvp server. Sounds to me like CRZ is trying to bring back what a lot of the players loved about WoW and pvp servers in the first place, as in some actual life in the open world and not just the lobby game it has become.
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Well that's to bad, you would have thought they would have tested CRZ extensively before adding it.
Though I have not subbed for years I do agree that server merges would seem to be a better move. Anyone have any insight as to why they are not going that route?
Edit: Unless they don't want to mess with server population because of an expected large influx of players for MoP.
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Hey laz.
Yes I played wow at launch, I started on an RP server and then later moved while still in vanilla to a pvp server, since the start of cata though I started fresh on a pve realm and honestly right now I thank the stars I did cause I would be even more upset than I am.
The problem is there is something gamers call "realm pride" with CRZ it has compounded the lobby game. The whole thing is a lobby now with CRZ the only part left of a realm server world is the AH, the guilds and the city chat. That is it. I think its a step too far into lobbyenism. If they rreeaallyy wanted to get people talking again, they could have just removed dungeon and raid finder. Though personally I like those tools and I have a guild that I enjoy playing with and I chat to people I randomly find across the world.
Currently there are so many bugs with CRZ it should have been beta'd more for example you cannot put someone from another realm in the CRZ on ignore. There is significant increased lag and apparently disconnects. Your guild offline online people phase in and out, while they are still online. Some zones you cannot even quest in and this fault happens at random. There are more poblems than this, most of them gave been posted on the US forums, the EU ones are just a mess right now.
The most negative thing about this whole thing is that it hasn't given players choice and thats what gaming should be about expanding the systems horizontally and giving players the tools for them to play with, themselves. It would be better if we had 5 server shards to choose from for each zone so if one is full we can try an empty one etc.
They have forced the players into the worst part of a lobby game with no place to call home except the safe city zone. I call that a mess. This system was supposed to help low pop servers and is so misguided that it causes more problems than it fixes. Simple server mergers would have been the logical and correct response.