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Lesbian Gay Bisexual Trans-sexual (LGBT) - why is this a bad thing for guild formation?

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  • dudeduder45dudeduder45 newark, IDPosts: 67Member
    Originally posted by VirusDancer

    The caring part is simple.  It's no different than somebody starting a White only guild, it's no different than somebody starting a Catholic only guild, it's no different than somebody starting a Male only guild, etc, etc, etc.  It's not like starting a guild for folks that share a love of stamp collecting or prefer Ford over Chevy trucks.

    Rather than seeking to form a guild that discriminates - why not form a guild that does not tolerate discrimination?  Form a guild that does not tolerate hate, etc, etc, etc...

    ...just don't make it one that prefers Ford over Chevy trucks, cause that would just be silly.  :)

    Tbh, i think most guilds are male only whether they mean to be or not :)

  • MonvedaMonveda LondonPosts: 16Member
    I remember seeing religious guilds in almost every MMO I've played. If they are allowed , most others should be too , including LGBT
  • KarteliKarteli Providence, PAPosts: 2,646Member
    Originally posted by SaintPhilip

    Therefore they are special ahnd deserve special rights and privladge above the unwashed massed of "the majority."

    Even if you are correct about all of them "knowing" they were born that way- Who you have sex with does not make you "special". Its sex bro- Everyone has it (sometimes even alone =O )

    WHO CARES? If you feel the need to broadcast that you like to have sex with the same sex- What is your goal in doing this? How does this improve the GW2 game experience? What does this have to do with gaming...Period.

    We get it. Your Gay. We dont care. =/

    You are a good example of the crap gays & lesbian people have to be put through.  I never said I was lesbian or gay, but you accused me of it, through your ineptitue for reading.

     

    Oh btw, this was not even a GW2 forum, so uhh ... it's not improving GW2? Lulz :-) /fail

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  • SaintPhilipSaintPhilip Bree, MIPosts: 713Member
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by SaintPhilip

    Therefore they are special ahnd deserve special rights and privladge above the unwashed massed of "the majority."

    Even if you are correct about all of them "knowing" they were born that way- Who you have sex with does not make you "special". Its sex bro- Everyone has it (sometimes even alone =O )

    WHO CARES? If you feel the need to broadcast that you like to have sex with the same sex- What is your goal in doing this? How does this improve the GW2 game experience? What does this have to do with gaming...Period.

    We get it. Your Gay. We dont care. =/

    You are a good example of the crap gay people have to be put through.  I never said I was lesbian or gay, but you accused me of it, through your ineptitue for reading.

     

    Oh btw, this was not even a GW2 forum, so uhh ,,, it's not improving GW2? Lulz :-) /fail

    ...Of coarse I assume you are gay hence asking about making a Gay guild- If I started a thread saying  "White Only guild" will you assume I might be an American Indian?

    If it walks like a duck....

    I mentioned GW2 since its the only time I have ever seen these Guilds advertised (like three last week I think)- So replace where I said GW2 with "Any game" and my point still stands.

    I believe in equality... Thats not enough for the "protected" people I guess. The "crap" people have to put up with from me is being treated totally equal. I like and dislike people on their merits, not who they bed.

  • GishgeronGishgeron Princeton, KYPosts: 1,287Member
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by Gishgeron

    Also, since we are talking about how life experience can control our biology and what shapes us into what we are....

     

    You CAN be born a racist.  You can be born into a racist family.  Your entire understanding of the world is formed around it, and by the time you have other influences that you actually REGARD seriously...that understand will take years to reverse.  Even when you do change your understanding, the inclination to look at other races differently will remain.  Slight things like moving away from black men and covering your wallet will persist long after you understand that they are just people with motivations like your own.  Our experiences as children STRONGLY define us, and its very hard to break away from that.

    ZZzzzttt!

     

    You are grown up to be a racist, you are not born as one.

     

    As far as being lesbian or gay as something acquired in life, I know you're wrong.  You are essentially someone from the outside telling everyone on the inside how stuff works.  Gay and lesbians know they are gay before they even start preschool.  There was little to be learned before that point.

     

      Just because YOUR experience is not that does not mean others haven't had it.  I know people who HAVE.  I even said I didn't shoot down the ideal a person could not be born gay.  But I know lots of people.  Of them, I've met several camps of people from that spectrum and they have different experiences.  My point, if you'd cared to pay any attention, is that YOU (used as a generalization, you meaning anybody viewing a person and considering sexuality) would have no definite way to know for absolute certain if said person was actually born a certain way or chose a certain path in life.  If you honestly don't know ANYONE that feels differently then you then I would suggest speaking to more people.  I've seen all kinds, and very few people have the same experience at all. 

      I'd also question knowing a sexuality before preschool.  Most kids are pretty gender neutral, and I don't recall actively thinking about women in a sexual way till WAYYYYYY after preschool.  I won't be so brash as to say other indicators weren't present....but I WOULD say that there were more contributing factors for THOSE than just "what I was born with".  I had questions about women and their bodies, but I also had a dad with a totally easy to reach porn stash.  That and women had different bodies than I did.  Its logical to assume you'd be interested in diffferences as a child.  Who knows, though?  I can say that, for certain, I knew my sexuality going in to middle school.  Probably elementary...its hard to tell at that point.  Mannerisms started forming then in regard to attracting the opposite sex.  But we learn those mannerisms from our peers too.  I feel more certain of middle school....5-8th grade. 

      Remember that you do not speak for all people.  I didn't even try to speak for all people.  I said that your statement is not true.  There is no absolute in regard to sexuality and birth.  We can discuss individual experiences, but those are not absolutes that we can apply to all people.  You said all people are born with their sexuality.  Maybe you were, perhaps you have some massively advanced sexual identity that was known to you early.  Not everyone had that experience.  I didn't have that experience.  Many of my friends did not have that experience.  Science does not support that in any way.  So its a pretty safe bet that its not true applied to everyone.

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  • SuperDonkSuperDonk Vancouver, WAPosts: 781Member Common
    Originally posted by Matticus75
    Originally posted by SuperDonk

    My opinion - people can make whatever guild they want to, and invite whatever players they want  to. If a LGBT guild only wants to invite LGBT players, fine by me.

     

    The only question I have is how will they be able to tell who is or isn't LGBT? My guess - they invite anyone who will tolerate thier conversations and lifestyle regardless if they are actually gay or not.

    Lets make a hate guild and see what happends, and observe how "equal" things are

     

    jezz I "hate" people who hate LGBT people and those who are against equal rights, I mean people should have their point of view, as long as I agree with it, and if you dont agree with it, then your wrong, but I respect that, becaue wrong people are equal to right people, and right and wrong is just an illusion, and all people are the same 1 person..............blah blah blah

     Hmm, I read this like 5 times and still don't understand what you are trying to say.

  • KarteliKarteli Providence, PAPosts: 2,646Member
    Originally posted by SaintPhilip
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by SaintPhilip

    Therefore they are special ahnd deserve special rights and privladge above the unwashed massed of "the majority."

    Even if you are correct about all of them "knowing" they were born that way- Who you have sex with does not make you "special". Its sex bro- Everyone has it (sometimes even alone =O )

    WHO CARES? If you feel the need to broadcast that you like to have sex with the same sex- What is your goal in doing this? How does this improve the GW2 game experience? What does this have to do with gaming...Period.

    We get it. Your Gay. We dont care. =/

    You are a good example of the crap gay people have to be put through.  I never said I was lesbian or gay, but you accused me of it, through your ineptitue for reading.

     

    Oh btw, this was not even a GW2 forum, so uhh ,,, it's not improving GW2? Lulz :-) /fail

    ...Of coarse I assume you are gay hence asking about making a Gay guild- If I started a thread saying  "White Only guild" will you assume I might be an American Indian?

    If it walks like a duck....

    I mentioned GW2 since its the only time I have ever seen these Guilds advertised (like three last week I think)- So replace where I said GW2 with "Any game" and my point still stands.

    I believe in equality... Thats not enough for the "protected" people I guess. The "crap" people have to put up with from me is being treated totally equal. I like and dislike people on their merits, not who they bed.

    I added the link in my original post.  Blizzard vs LGBT.  check it out.  This predates GW2.

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  • ZebladeZeblade Colorado Springs, COPosts: 926Member
    So why ask, post here? You WONT like some of the replys so .. I dont know.. maybe ask where they didnt like it or wanted to ban it who knows. And you post it here.. you need JC
  • oubersoubers bazelPosts: 876Member Common
    Originally posted by SaintPhilip
    Originally posted by maji
    Originally posted by SaintPhilip

    I can understand it-

    Sexual Orientation and race and religion should not even be an issue with a Guild in any way shap[e or form.

    Look, I cannot make a "Straights Only Guild" or a "Black Only Guild" and advertise it as such (obviously you can have anyone in your guild who you wish and could still make a Guild like such)- So whats good for the goose.

    Its like Orwell said in Animal farm. "All Animals are equal but some Animals are MORE equal than others..." This is becopming the case. 

    Well, but people can make "women only" guilds. Or "only 30+" guilds, and so on. What's the difference between that and a lgbt guild?

    I see a difference. A huge one in fact. But it matters not-

    Let me ask you this- Why advertise your sexual orientation or crossdressing desires via a "guild tag:" in an MMO?

    Also note I am not saying that I care one way or another (I really dont- I would avoid joning that guild though-) but I am explaining why people would take issue with it. I have a problem with anyone broadcasting personal issues .  Pretty soon we will have S&M Gyuilds, Guilds for "watersports" and scatt.

    Keep it in the real world or take it second life.

    -Its my opinion for what its worth. You asked.

     i realy agree on this one 100%

    Dont get me wrong her, i LOVE lesbians.....i realy do......specially when they......euh yeah sorry, almost let myself go there.

    But on a realy serious note.....i dont realy think an online game is the place to advertise your personal sexual preference imho.

    Or do you realy want have people reacting to it?? You know the ingame community is not the most mature crowd is some cases right??

    i think as far as you just want people who are on the same interest lvl as you are....maybe just join a forum about gay/lesbian/transgenders and have nice chat with people who have the same interest or preference as you have. But a game realy does not seem to be the place to out yourself about gender preference or anything else like that.

     

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  • SaintPhilipSaintPhilip Bree, MIPosts: 713Member
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by SaintPhilip
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by SaintPhilip

    Therefore they are special ahnd deserve special rights and privladge above the unwashed massed of "the majority."

    Even if you are correct about all of them "knowing" they were born that way- Who you have sex with does not make you "special". Its sex bro- Everyone has it (sometimes even alone =O )

    WHO CARES? If you feel the need to broadcast that you like to have sex with the same sex- What is your goal in doing this? How does this improve the GW2 game experience? What does this have to do with gaming...Period.

    We get it. Your Gay. We dont care. =/

    You are a good example of the crap gay people have to be put through.  I never said I was lesbian or gay, but you accused me of it, through your ineptitue for reading.

     

    Oh btw, this was not even a GW2 forum, so uhh ,,, it's not improving GW2? Lulz :-) /fail

    ...Of coarse I assume you are gay hence asking about making a Gay guild- If I started a thread saying  "White Only guild" will you assume I might be an American Indian?

    If it walks like a duck....

    I mentioned GW2 since its the only time I have ever seen these Guilds advertised (like three last week I think)- So replace where I said GW2 with "Any game" and my point still stands.

    I believe in equality... Thats not enough for the "protected" people I guess. The "crap" people have to put up with from me is being treated totally equal. I like and dislike people on their merits, not who they bed.

    I added the link in my original post.  Blizzard vs LGBT.  check it out.  This predates GW2.

    Reading the link I can say I would not take issue with it- But it wasnt described as an "exclusive " guild but rather a guild which was "friendly" to the lifestyle.

    Honestly I still cannot really understand the resons for wanting this- But I also dont see a reverse discrimination issue either (as in excluding people for their sexual preference)- So yeah. I dont understand but I dont see any issue with it either. It is what it is I guess.

    -On a side note, I often play Female toons. Does that make me a virtual crossavatar?

  • KarteliKarteli Providence, PAPosts: 2,646Member
    Originally posted by SaintPhilip
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by SaintPhilip
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by SaintPhilip

    Therefore they are special ahnd deserve special rights and privladge above the unwashed massed of "the majority."

    Even if you are correct about all of them "knowing" they were born that way- Who you have sex with does not make you "special". Its sex bro- Everyone has it (sometimes even alone =O )

    WHO CARES? If you feel the need to broadcast that you like to have sex with the same sex- What is your goal in doing this? How does this improve the GW2 game experience? What does this have to do with gaming...Period.

    We get it. Your Gay. We dont care. =/

    You are a good example of the crap gay people have to be put through.  I never said I was lesbian or gay, but you accused me of it, through your ineptitue for reading.

     

    Oh btw, this was not even a GW2 forum, so uhh ,,, it's not improving GW2? Lulz :-) /fail

    ...Of coarse I assume you are gay hence asking about making a Gay guild- If I started a thread saying  "White Only guild" will you assume I might be an American Indian?

    If it walks like a duck....

    I mentioned GW2 since its the only time I have ever seen these Guilds advertised (like three last week I think)- So replace where I said GW2 with "Any game" and my point still stands.

    I believe in equality... Thats not enough for the "protected" people I guess. The "crap" people have to put up with from me is being treated totally equal. I like and dislike people on their merits, not who they bed.

    I added the link in my original post.  Blizzard vs LGBT.  check it out.  This predates GW2.

    Reading the link I can say I would not take issue with it- But it wasnt described as an "exclusive " guild but rather a guild which was "friendly" to the lifestyle.

    Honestly I still cannot really understand the resons for wanting this- But I also dont see a reverse discrimination issue either (as in excluding people for their sexual preference)- So yeah. I dont understand but I dont see any issue with it either. It is what it is I guess.

    -On a side note, I often play Female toons. Does that make me a virtual crossavatar?

    It's up to you I guess.

    Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
    Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  • SaintPhilipSaintPhilip Bree, MIPosts: 713Member
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by SaintPhilip
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by SaintPhilip
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by SaintPhilip

    Therefore they are special ahnd deserve special rights and privladge above the unwashed massed of "the majority."

    Even if you are correct about all of them "knowing" they were born that way- Who you have sex with does not make you "special". Its sex bro- Everyone has it (sometimes even alone =O )

    WHO CARES? If you feel the need to broadcast that you like to have sex with the same sex- What is your goal in doing this? How does this improve the GW2 game experience? What does this have to do with gaming...Period.

    We get it. Your Gay. We dont care. =/

    You are a good example of the crap gay people have to be put through.  I never said I was lesbian or gay, but you accused me of it, through your ineptitue for reading.

     

    Oh btw, this was not even a GW2 forum, so uhh ,,, it's not improving GW2? Lulz :-) /fail

    ...Of coarse I assume you are gay hence asking about making a Gay guild- If I started a thread saying  "White Only guild" will you assume I might be an American Indian?

    If it walks like a duck....

    I mentioned GW2 since its the only time I have ever seen these Guilds advertised (like three last week I think)- So replace where I said GW2 with "Any game" and my point still stands.

    I believe in equality... Thats not enough for the "protected" people I guess. The "crap" people have to put up with from me is being treated totally equal. I like and dislike people on their merits, not who they bed.

    I added the link in my original post.  Blizzard vs LGBT.  check it out.  This predates GW2.

    Reading the link I can say I would not take issue with it- But it wasnt described as an "exclusive " guild but rather a guild which was "friendly" to the lifestyle.

    Honestly I still cannot really understand the resons for wanting this- But I also dont see a reverse discrimination issue either (as in excluding people for their sexual preference)- So yeah. I dont understand but I dont see any issue with it either. It is what it is I guess.

    -On a side note, I often play Female toons. Does that make me a virtual crossavatar?

    It's up to you I guess.

    Do I get special rights and privlages? If so- I say a resounding YES... If not, ima sue for discrimination =P

  • KarteliKarteli Providence, PAPosts: 2,646Member
    Originally posted by SaintPhilip
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by SaintPhilip
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by SaintPhilip
    Originally posted by Karteli
    Originally posted by SaintPhilip

    Therefore they are special ahnd deserve special rights and privladge above the unwashed massed of "the majority."

    Even if you are correct about all of them "knowing" they were born that way- Who you have sex with does not make you "special". Its sex bro- Everyone has it (sometimes even alone =O )

    WHO CARES? If you feel the need to broadcast that you like to have sex with the same sex- What is your goal in doing this? How does this improve the GW2 game experience? What does this have to do with gaming...Period.

    We get it. Your Gay. We dont care. =/

    You are a good example of the crap gay people have to be put through.  I never said I was lesbian or gay, but you accused me of it, through your ineptitue for reading.

     

    Oh btw, this was not even a GW2 forum, so uhh ,,, it's not improving GW2? Lulz :-) /fail

    ...Of coarse I assume you are gay hence asking about making a Gay guild- If I started a thread saying  "White Only guild" will you assume I might be an American Indian?

    If it walks like a duck....

    I mentioned GW2 since its the only time I have ever seen these Guilds advertised (like three last week I think)- So replace where I said GW2 with "Any game" and my point still stands.

    I believe in equality... Thats not enough for the "protected" people I guess. The "crap" people have to put up with from me is being treated totally equal. I like and dislike people on their merits, not who they bed.

    I added the link in my original post.  Blizzard vs LGBT.  check it out.  This predates GW2.

    Reading the link I can say I would not take issue with it- But it wasnt described as an "exclusive " guild but rather a guild which was "friendly" to the lifestyle.

    Honestly I still cannot really understand the resons for wanting this- But I also dont see a reverse discrimination issue either (as in excluding people for their sexual preference)- So yeah. I dont understand but I dont see any issue with it either. It is what it is I guess.

    -On a side note, I often play Female toons. Does that make me a virtual crossavatar?

    It's up to you I guess.

    Do I get special rights and privlages? If so- I say a resounding YES... If not, ima sue for discrimination =P

    Do what everyone else does, join the sheep :P

    Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
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  • RaekonRaekon AugsburgPosts: 553Member

    I was in one in Jade Dynasty once and I didn't mind at all since all people there were nice and it was fun being together.

    The main reason why they had created such a guild was to be able to talk about gay and lesbian stuff in the game when we had guild meetings and such without any straight people or homophobic ones taking offence or starting issues only because they found gay people "disgusting" (you can believe me that it really happened) or any other type of wording.

    I don't mind any type of guild and I have seen christian guilds forming, 18+ or 25+ ones forming, PvE ONLY, PvP ONLY, Roleplay ONLY, Timezone based ones and more.

    It's on the guild leader itself to create the type of guild they want and if they get people that want to be in such a type of guild joining then all power to them.

    My guilds are always International ones because I love being together with people from allover the world.

    Of course the timezones are making things harder to meet at times or under the week because of work/school and other but there are always weekends, free days or vacation days one can use to be together if they really want or willing to.

    That's one of the main reasons why I'm always on US Servers even I'm EU based.

    I have meet 1000s of people through the years in almost all available mmos or even offline games with online gameplay (like the ANNO Series as example) and made frienships that lasted and some still last for 5 to 8+ years already and I'm very happy about it.

    So no matter what beliefs, sexual orientation or gaming style one has, what matters to me in MMOs is to be together with nice people I can have fun with cause their personal life is personal and none of my business in the first place.

    Of course we can talk about it in a way or another and agree or dissagree in life choices because we are thinking differently about it.

    This shouldn't be an obtacle that prevents us from having fun together and helping each other in a game that we love.

  • GwapoJoshGwapoJosh Auburn, INPosts: 989Member Uncommon
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  • timtracktimtrack StockholmPosts: 414Member Uncommon

    Gated communities = Bad. Further encourages the "them vs. us" mentality.

    Blending in, not caring about race/orientation/gender/color = Good. Encourages "that's my friend regardless" mentality.

     

    In an MMO, more so then in any other medium or social activity, things such as sexual orientation, race, gender, nationality and color has no meaning. Use it, take advantage of a small part of the world free of the limitations these things can bring. Just ignore them and play the game with whoever is there. Nothing good can come from limiting yourself to a specific group of people in an MMO.

  • delete5230delete5230 Posts: 2,955Member Uncommon

    Look this is the bottom line.

    It's a video game, its NOT ABOUT SEXUAL PREFFRIENCE............So I can start a Guild " New York singles looking to hook up with women " ?

    The, not about sex but like minded people excuse is a bunch of crap and you know it !!!!!!

    Keep sex out of it, if a few players would like to have a private chat, that should be between them.....Just like the real world !!!!

  • Kaelano1Kaelano1 Peoria, ILPosts: 375Member

    I agree starting guilds in games based on sexual preference only makes you look like a bunch of swingers looking for dates. It doesn't matter who I sleep with. It doesn't matter who you sleep with. It's not part of the game.

     

    If I go into a mmo and I announce, "I'm straight! Look at me! I like to sleep with females! Females really sexually arouse me! I want you all to know I'm male and I sleep with females!", wouldn't I look a little silly? Yeh, that's how you look.

  • Saur0nSaur0n Denver, COPosts: 113Member Uncommon
    LGBT people would be left alone if they stopped throwing it in everyones faces with their parades and fascist video game guilds.  They are starting to think of themselves as a race.  You don't see leppers or hunchbacks out there starting their own exclusive guilds...
  • majimaji ColognePosts: 1,995Member Uncommon
    I can understand those who want such guilds. Just thinking about how often "gay" is used as an insult in an average teenagers guild...

    Let's play Fallen Earth (blind, 300 episodes)

    Let's play Guild Wars 2 (blind, 45 episodes)

  • WicoaWicoa LondonPosts: 1,602Member Uncommon

    A thread like this was made 6 months to a year ago quoting the exact same stuff, unless this has been necro'd.

    I don't know why you post this here or get all upset about it.  I don't care if you make a guild with people who like to talk in your own made up language and hop on one leg for an hour a day as part of your new found religon, just don't bring me into it.  I just want to play my games with friends I make and guilds I join.

    My only concern is that our young folk must be protected and I believe blizzard were just trying to protect them since the game is 12+, they had to be very careful incase they themselves got taken to court by the masses for content on their forums and posted in chat in game. If you cannot see that then you are a self-righteous fool hell bent on your personal crusade with no logic and a fury that will hurt others.  I am very certain that there are LBGT people working at blizzard (since it is a large organisation). Children/kids however must be allowed to make their own decisions as late teenagers-adults.

    Look at the boot on the other foot, I would'nt make a hetrosexual only guild and paint the sky red advertising it, I would recruit quietly with people I know, WOM spreads fast you know it is a strategic  part of marketing.  I have been in guilds with all walks of life, you are also assuming that LBGT people want to be exclusive and will not want to be in guilds with other people with different lifestyles.

    I strongly believe a heavy line is crossed when a game has issues such as sexual orientation, religous belief and political standings brought into it.  In games it should never be about any of that and to me its a dark day when it is. What you have done op as a gamer is slightly shameful not for who you are or your lifestyle but for breaking that rule that the majority of gamers respect.

  • Kaelano1Kaelano1 Peoria, ILPosts: 375Member
    Originally posted by maji
    I can understand those who want such guilds. Just thinking about how often "gay" is used as an insult in an average teenagers guild...

    100 years ago, "gay", "queer", and "faggot" didn't mean "homosexual". Vernacular changed and now some people think they own these words or have some entitlement to curb others' speech because of personal offense.

     

    They don't.

     

    Vernacular changed again and "gay" means something else now to many people. Language evolves. Deal with it.

  • SeelinnikoiSeelinnikoi LONDONPosts: 661Member Uncommon

    LGBT Guild ? - Check

    White only Guild ? - Check

    Black only Guild ? - Check

    Asian only Guild ? - Check

     

    See the pattern here?

    See the problem here?

  • UtukuMoonUtukuMoon ParisPosts: 1,066Member

    I think it's just attention seeking "hey look at us we are gay" this is a mmo not gay canival. I mean, why are you even asking the devs,why not just form the guild and leave it at that.I know, you want to shout it out in general chat and if anyone complains you can say ArenaNet said we can lol.

     

    Again, it's nothing but attention seeking.

  • VesaviusVesavius BristolPosts: 7,642Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Karteli

    We're all different, this much is clear.  But sometimes it's a hinderance, especially when it comes to forming a guild.

     

    LGBT people want to form a guild exclusive to them, so what?  Why are so many opposed?  It doesn't affect them.

     

    Wouldn't it help the community to gather like minded people together?

     

     

    First, I would argue that simple sexual orientation does not make you all 'like minded'. This is like saying all hetrosexual guys are 'like-minded', which is simply ridiculous.

    Second, why do you care what orientation someone you play a game with is unless you intend to attempt form a sexual relationship? I would suggest that there are maybe better forums for this then within a game.

    Thirdly, why on Earth do you want to segregate yourselves from the 'mainstream' like this? Surely you are looking to inform, show others that it's perfectly normal to have different sexual orientations, and that it is now pretty much just part of every day life and nothing special? Why create a club to underline (a lot of the time) self imposed 'differences'.

     

    I game with a couple of gay guys and no one seems to give a shit.

     

    These are social games and an ideal environment to meet new and interesting people from all over and all cultures, why restrict that by locking yourselves away in a ghetto? because you assume you can't get on with 'straight' people? That you want to assume that such folks will judge you in some way?

    It could actually be construed as being quite bigoted on your part.

     

     

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