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The only thing I am learning from this thread is the old adage of "exploit often and exploit first" may just hold true to this game. I see a lack of compassion or even acknowledgement from many over legit players issues with this system. While also seeing a lack of "true" action taken against people running bot programs.
Hell maybe I should just buy a second account, fire up my laptop and bot the ever loving kitten out of this game, cause I don't wish to be monetarily months behind what is potentially a large chunk (even 5% if large in my book) of the player population.
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu >.<
same for me - i have issues w all mmos but i rarely debate outside GW2 / EQ2 forums
otherwise
im just posting relevant game news in the appropiate subforum
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Not quite enough.... everyone blames these alien gold farmer sub-species for all anti-exploit measures. From what I've seen of DE exploiting, spawn camping and botting, and specially from all the bitching about all the counter-measures I read about here and in the official forums, it ain't just the gold farmers doing it.
Time to wake-up and realize that a big chunk of the MMO playing mainstream are exploiting asshats who ruin games. "Normal Players" may even be an endangered species.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
Actually, no.
Is it so hard to simply move from zone to zone? I really don't see the problem (Other than your typical lazy human responses).
That said, I hardly ever get those diminished returns, simply because it is my playstyle. I get the picture though, its a pretty drastic measure against farming and bots, but I really think that all it takes is for players to adapt to it, instead of crying foul and immediately trolling the "GW2 is the 2nd coming" remark
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Then again, you can't please everyone.
or they could change the event to only spawn every 30 minutes. Or they could use these locations as honeypots to attract botters and then have someone show up with banhammer every couple of hours to squash the characters that are obviously repeating the same sequence of actions over and over.
Why punish people for participating in the events that are offered to them? After all, the events are supposed to be the core of the game. I know that I would rather do a variety of events in an evening but sometimes, in some areas, you just don't find that many. I jump on every even I run across but when you only run into 3 events and 2 of them are bugged (Timberline Falls, I am looking at you) Well, you do the one that can be done a couple of times while you are doing the hearts and other exploration points in that area.
DR code is a lazy solution to the problem.
All die, so die well.
i remember your bot threads - i hear ya loud and clear
I agree bot banning needs alot of improvement,
especially when same bot can be in same spot for days
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Well the problem is some mats only drop off certain mobs. Do you play EvE? Would it make since if they made it so you could only farm in 0 sec for 30 mins before you stoped getting anything?
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Exactly, that is your playstyle.
I have some favourite zones, where I like to spend my playtime.
I want to rotate these zones whenever I feel like and not when
I'm forced to. Really not that hard to understand I assume.
On the other hand: do you really think that these changes actually
stop the bots or at least slow them down?
Sorry but I don't see that way.
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DR code is a quick, interim solution to what has become a huge problem. Many, many people are openly exploiting and posting about it. And these ain't the gold farmers. I'm sure they'll figure it out and tune it in time but this is so widespread that something needed to be done quickly.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
First, it is not clear that changing zones works. Several people have reported that you still get DR on events regardless of changing zones. I may just be that there are weird bugs in the code that are causing people to hit the limit when they really shouldn't.
Second, players shouldn't have to game the system by changing zones just so that THE core mechanic of the game will run correctly. Players should be able to simply play the game naturally and have it work.
- Why should I have to set a countdown timer to remind me when I need to switch zones to keep playing?
- What if I want to simply follow the natural progression of the map and the story built into that map?
- What if I have already completed the next zone over and don't want to do it again?
- What if I don't want to waste 5 minutes tromping across the large zone I am in just to get to the other zone?
- What if I don't want to spend the 2s it costs to teleport to that other map?
- What if I don't want limit myself to working the areas that are right next to the zone connections?
I won't bother playing a game that I have to trick into working correctly.
All die, so die well.
There certainly is a segment who "win" when they find ways to exploit a game.
A great majority of players never make a post.
How much gold could one guy make by standing in a event trigger zone together with ten friends and autoattack and autopickup loot all night?
When they woke up next morning they must have tens of thousand of trophies each to sell, pluss crafting mats. Make everyone in your guild do that all night, every night, and the economy will be ruined for everyone.
I have a hard time believing any fair playstyle get punished by the changes made, unless your playstyle is to exploit.
Just wanted to note that 'working correctly' is really not aplicable in this context as you have that whole 'working as intended' thing that can be used as a flipside argument. Fact is ther system is just a different system and if people want to forcibly grind it, then they hve to jump through the hoops to grind it.
Anet just doesn't want people to be grinding. They want players to pace it, or mix up their activity throughout play. Farm a bit, get some xp, do a mission or dungeon with some people, craft some stuff, try some pvp for a bit, then do something else again.
A lot of your list is personal problems really, you 'don't want to' to do it. If you don't want to do it, then don't do it and find something else to do.
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
if you dont farm 1 event, dungeon or same mobs over and over you are ok, your drop rate is ok
but in the last weeks we saw players doing 1 dungeon for gold and exp or we saw players farming afk 1 event for karma that is every 5 mins
Anet had to do it unless you wanted fked economy
so again if you dont repeat 1 dungeon or event or farm same mobs you are ok
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