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What's going on with money making nerfs?

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  • gessekai332gessekai332 New York City, NYPosts: 854Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Pixilated

    This is ALL about their CA$H Shop !!! Period  end of effin story!

    Anything you can figure out how to make easy gold in this game

    will get nerf'ed ! This is the new P2W but it's really P4T=Pay4Time.

    Either get ready to grind your ass off for anything that costs gold

    in game or buy Gems. They ain't sellin enuff gems so they'll cripple the

    ecomony !!!

    thats not true. if you personally figure out how to make gold easily yourself, dont tell anyone about it and it wont get nerfed. If you just follow the flavor of the month gold farming exploit that everyone is doing of course it will get nerfed.

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  • Dave3216Dave3216 GeelongPosts: 133Member
    Originally posted by gessekai332
    Originally posted by Pixilated

    This is ALL about their CA$H Shop !!! Period  end of effin story!

    Anything you can figure out how to make easy gold in this game

    will get nerf'ed ! This is the new P2W but it's really P4T=Pay4Time.

    Either get ready to grind your ass off for anything that costs gold

    in game or buy Gems. They ain't sellin enuff gems so they'll cripple the

    ecomony !!!

    thats not true. if you personally figure out how to make gold easily yourself, dont tell anyone about it and it wont get nerfed. If you just follow the flavor of the month gold farming exploit that everyone is doing of course it will get nerfed.

    QFT

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  • xpiherxpiher Indianapolis, INPosts: 3,311Member
    People were making money hand over fist by running 1 path of a dungeon only half way and repeating, getting more gold an hr than intended by the system. ANET put in an anti-farming code (JUST LIKE GW1) into the dungeon system. People are pissed because they can't do speed runs over and over again. QQ insues. 

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  • lunarwitch00lunarwitch00 kanas, MOPosts: 43Member

    to bad its affecting  players

    leveling up

    not doing dungeons

    the "anti farm code" isnt limited to only dungeons

  • VesaviusVesavius BristolPosts: 7,647Member Uncommon

    I don't care much tbh... I get really bored farming pretend money tbh.

    I have enough put aside from simple play to make my legendary armour and weapon for my main, and I haven't even run any dungeons yet aside from story mode.

     

  • Tutu2Tutu2 MelbournePosts: 564Member Uncommon
    I applaud ANet for taking exploits seriously, unlike 90% of MMOs currently with their ridiculusly effed up economies. (WoW being a fine top example.)
  • MMOExposedMMOExposed lalal land, DCPosts: 6,258Member Uncommon
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  • lunarwitch00lunarwitch00 kanas, MOPosts: 43Member

    so farming is exploiting playing the game longer than an hour is exploit doing the same dungeon is exploit

    doing events is exploit

     

    you cant even go through a single event chain at 80 without hitting the cap

     

    and as i said up there^

    its also affecting low leveling trying to level up doing events

     

    sorry im going there

     

    see what happen to diablo 3

     tons of people who left that game for the exact reasons and things guild wars 2 is doing

    i dont think what anets doing is bad but the system shouldnt punish real players

    once again bots dont notice it most got mulitple accounts anyways

    all i gotta say

     

    delete this mess is right

     

  • xpiherxpiher Indianapolis, INPosts: 3,311Member
    Originally posted by lunarwitch00

    to bad its affecting  players

    leveling up

    not doing dungeons

    the "anti farm code" isnt limited to only dungeons

     

    Sometimes when you fix one issue, it breaks another. Chances are, the exp getting hit with diminishing returns was a programing oversight. I expect it to be corrected. HOWEVER, the way the system was explained, a normal player should never be hit with diminshing returns since. If you are constantly doing different content, the anti-farming algorithm shouldn't kick in. 

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  • dageezadageeza london, KYPosts: 578Member
    Originally posted by lunarwitch00

    so farming is exploiting playing the game longer than an hour is exploit doing the same dungeon is exploit

    doing events is exploit

     

    you cant even go through a single event chain at 80 without hitting the cap

     

    and as i said up there^

    its also affecting low leveling trying to level up doing events

     

    sorry im going there

     

    see what happen to diablo 3

     tons of people who left that game for the exact reasons and things guild wars 2 is doing

    i dont think what anets doing is bad but the system shouldnt punish real players

    once again bots dont notice it most got mulitple accounts anyways

    all i gotta say

     

    delete this mess is right

     

    So much for fun if you are a gamer that enjoys doing the same non dungeon cycle over a few times as having diminishing loot returns outside of dungeons is just crap and greatly reduce the enjoyablity of certain campy/roleplaying playstyles..

    Players should not be forced to have to try and watch timers and or do other things they may not want to do in order to drop decent loot for their time spent if anet keeps going at this rate its going to be easy for many to say this is not fun anymore..

    pigeonholing is never the answer and is whats wrong with every other game..

    EDIT:

    I should point out that i am not a fan of player made pigeonholing either to where players only flock to a few most profitable events that are always active while other events dont have enough help..

    However diminishing returns and pigeonholing across the board is still a kneejerk reaction that takes away from the freedom to both have fun and profit adequately in the game by doing what you like best with the time you spend.

    Playing GW2..

  • tyfontyfon OSLOPosts: 238Member

    And this is what happens when the cash flow of the company is dependant on selling gold to the players.

     

    /me laugs while playing subscription based games.

  • xpiherxpiher Indianapolis, INPosts: 3,311Member
    Originally posted by tyfon

    And this is what happens when the cash flow of the company is dependant on selling gold to the players.

     

    /me laugs while playing subscription based games.

     

    You never played GW1 did you. GW1 HAD ANTI FARMING CODE PRIOR TO CASH SHOP!! 

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  • TardcoreTardcore MinskPosts: 2,325Member
    Originally posted by xpiher
    Originally posted by lunarwitch00

    to bad its affecting  players

    leveling up

    not doing dungeons

    the "anti farm code" isnt limited to only dungeons

     

    Sometimes when you fix one issue, it breaks another. Chances are, the exp getting hit with diminishing returns was a programing oversight. I expect it to be corrected. HOWEVER, the way the system was explained, a normal player should never be hit with diminshing returns since. If you are constantly doing different content, the anti-farming algorithm shouldn't kick in. 

    Really? So for example when I farm bandits, centaurs, or moas for specific cooking crafting drops (butter, chocolate, eggs) its ok for me to be penalised because I'm not running around like an ADHD addled moron but instead focusing on specific mobs that drop what I need? That's rich. Thanks A-net for letting the gold sellers tell you and the rest of us how we are to play the game.

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  • WhiteLanternWhiteLantern Nevada, MOPosts: 2,732Member Common
    Originally posted by Tardcore
    Originally posted by xpiher
    Originally posted by lunarwitch00

    to bad its affecting  players

    leveling up

    not doing dungeons

    the "anti farm code" isnt limited to only dungeons

     

    Sometimes when you fix one issue, it breaks another. Chances are, the exp getting hit with diminishing returns was a programing oversight. I expect it to be corrected. HOWEVER, the way the system was explained, a normal player should never be hit with diminshing returns since. If you are constantly doing different content, the anti-farming algorithm shouldn't kick in. 

    Really? So for example when I farm bandits, centaurs, or moas for specific cooking crafting drops (butter, chocolate, eggs) its ok for me to be penalised because I'm not running around like an ADHD addled moron but instead focusing on specific mobs that drop what I need? That's rich. Thanks A-net for letting the gold sellers tell you and the rest of us how we are to play the game.

    They only want you to play the game "the right way". They really do have your best interests in mind.

     

     

     

     

    (that one felt better)

    I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  • ennymithennymith Goodwell, CTPosts: 119Member

    Gee what a surprise, a game who's revenue model is based on cash shop sales, takes measures to insure that players have no in game alternative that does not invovle massive grind.  Who would have thunk it?

    The further in we get with GW2, the more clearly it strickly adheres to standard cash shop based game practices that leave you little choice but to pony up to buy gold from the cash shop.

    Between repair bills, waypoint costs and limiting how much players can 'farm', Anet insures that the cash shop is the only viable alternative to acquire anything without massive grind.  For a game that plastered 'no grind' PR all over the media, GW2 is just another 'me too'  in the world of cash shop based games which offers two choices, grind or cash shop.

  • TardcoreTardcore MinskPosts: 2,325Member
    Originally posted by WhiteLantern
    Originally posted by Tardcore
    Originally posted by xpiher
    Originally posted by lunarwitch00

    to bad its affecting  players

    leveling up

    not doing dungeons

    the "anti farm code" isnt limited to only dungeons

     

    Sometimes when you fix one issue, it breaks another. Chances are, the exp getting hit with diminishing returns was a programing oversight. I expect it to be corrected. HOWEVER, the way the system was explained, a normal player should never be hit with diminshing returns since. If you are constantly doing different content, the anti-farming algorithm shouldn't kick in. 

    Really? So for example when I farm bandits, centaurs, or moas for specific cooking crafting drops (butter, chocolate, eggs) its ok for me to be penalised because I'm not running around like an ADHD addled moron but instead focusing on specific mobs that drop what I need? That's rich. Thanks A-net for letting the gold sellers tell you and the rest of us how we are to play the game.

    They only want you to play the game "the right way". They really do have your best interests in mind.

     

     

     

     

    (that one felt better)


    Wait ....... I'm playing it W R O N G !!??

    AW DAMN IT!!!!!

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  • TardcoreTardcore MinskPosts: 2,325Member
    Originally posted by ennymith

    Gee what a surprise, a game who's revenue model is based on cash shop sales, takes measures to insure that players have no in game alternative that does not invovle massive grind.  Who would have thunk it?

    The further in we get with GW2, the more clearly it strickly adheres to standard cash shop based game practices that leave you little choice but to pony up to buy gold from the cash shop.

    Between repair bills, waypoint costs and limiting how much players can 'farm', Anet insures that the cash shop is the only viable alternative to acquire anything without massive grind.  For a game that plastered 'no grind' PR all over the media, GW2 is just another 'me too'  in the world of cash shop based games which offers two choices, grind or cash shop.

    Whoa! Its my evil twin!!

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  • DarkPonyDarkPony RotterdamPosts: 5,566Member

    Don't steal identities, guys. It's worse than insulting prophets.

    p.s. Hi Tardcore. Glad to see you alive and kicking. <3

  • saurus123saurus123 nonePosts: 570Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by ennymith

    Gee what a surprise, a game who's revenue model is based on cash shop sales, takes measures to insure that players have no in game alternative that does not invovle massive grind.  Who would have thunk it?

    The further in we get with GW2, the more clearly it strickly adheres to standard cash shop based game practices that leave you little choice but to pony up to buy gold from the cash shop.

    Between repair bills, waypoint costs and limiting how much players can 'farm', Anet insures that the cash shop is the only viable alternative to acquire anything without massive grind.  For a game that plastered 'no grind' PR all over the media, GW2 is just another 'me too'  in the world of cash shop based games which offers two choices, grind or cash shop.

    what a BS talking

    if you were lvl 80 you would have alot of ways to get your gold

     

    i was doing WvW yesterday and made about 10g!!!

    these 10g is enough to buy an exotic set

     

    this is not WoW where they throw gold at you, you need to work a bit

  • TardcoreTardcore MinskPosts: 2,325Member
    Originally posted by DarkPony

    Don't steal identities, guys. It's worse than insulting prophets.

    p.s. Hi Tardcore. Glad to see you alive and kicking. <3

     

     

     

    YOU!!??

     

     

    WTF HAVE YOU

     

     

    BEEN MAN!!??

     

    . . . . Er . . . I mean yeah, likewise

     

     

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  • bcbullybcbully Westland, MIPosts: 8,284Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Jyiiga

    I have a serious issue with the diminishing returns on farming the same mobs. I farm the same type of mobs when I need a particular drop for crafting. Example.. I need cloth, I kill bandits. I can't kill bandits for more than 40 minutes before the drop rate practically drops to zero. That my friends is ridiculous and inexcusable in my book. I am not a gd bot.

    This is the first thing that has made me want to say FU Anet. 

    Exploiter!

  • mazutmazut SofiaPosts: 886Member Uncommon
    This is a very positive change, gl farming 20-30 times in a row ;)
  • WhiteLanternWhiteLantern Nevada, MOPosts: 2,732Member Common
    Originally posted by DarkPony

    Don't steal identities, guys. It's worse than insulting prophets.

    p.s. Hi Tardcore. Glad to see you alive and kicking. <3

    The fourth sign of the apocalypse:

     

    PONY IS BACK!!!

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  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko RotterdamPosts: 3,845Member Uncommon

    As a non-player, there's only one thing that puzzles me about the general content of this thread: "In a game where gear is said to be relatively trivial, why are so many players focused on making heaps of gold in the quickest possible time ? What do they need it for ?"

     

    What happened to: "GW2 is all about the fun of playing, not grinding for upgrades" ?

     

    When people start to organise "speed runs" for dungeons and instances, it certainly sounds like they're grinding...

  • DarkPonyDarkPony RotterdamPosts: 5,566Member
    Originally posted by Tardcore
    Originally posted by DarkPony

    Don't steal identities, guys. It's worse than insulting prophets.

    p.s. Hi Tardcore. Glad to see you alive and kicking. <3

     

     

     

    YOU!!??

     

     

    WTF HAVE YOU

     

     

    BEEN MAN!!??

     

    . . . . Er . . . I mean yeah, likewise

     

     

    I am on a mission from god. He instructed me to spend my free time making a kick-ass armor mod for Skyrim rather than waste my time telling people "I told you so" on the mmorpg.com GW2 section. ^_^

     

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