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How are the quests in GW2?

casshyrcasshyr Vancouver, BCPosts: 4Member

Are the quests easy to do?  Are there clear objective markers all the time, so players don't have to go "ok, where am i suppose to go now? i don't know where to go!"

To give you guys an idea of how much of a noob gamer i am, i got lost in skyrim. the quests are confusing for me and i literally got lost and got bored with it cuz i don't know where to go. the quest markers don't always show up for me in skyrim and often i wonder aimlessly trying to know where to go.

Are the quests in gw2 also like skyrim quests too, where it is not always straightforward to find ur way and stuff? or are they mostly straightforward so some noob like me can do them too without frustration?

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  • c-motc-mot FrankfurtPosts: 49Member Uncommon

    there are no "quests" in GW2 like you find in other games as there are no real questgivers you need to talk to.

    it all comes naturally - when you enter an area a heart shows up on your screen top right corner telling you that you are in a quest area and what to do here. there are usually different things to do which will all progress the little "quest" bar. like you get to a farm and the heart shows up telling you to help the farmer by defeating bandits around the area or feeding the cows or extinct fires that the bandits had ignited.

    then there are dynamic events which will happen in the area. you will get a hint that there is an event nearby (you can check the map for an orange marker where the event happens). this can be an all out attack of further mentioned bandits or a followup events where you follow the bandits to their hideout to clear things up etc.

    not every quest/event includes combat.

  • casshyrcasshyr Vancouver, BCPosts: 4Member
    Originally posted by c-mot

    there are no "quests" in GW2 like you find in other games as there are no real questgivers you need to talk to.

    it all comes naturally - when you enter an area a heart shows up on your screen top right corner telling you that you are in a quest area and what to do here. there are usually different things to do which will all progress the little "quest" bar. like you get to a farm and the heart shows up telling you to help the farmer by defeating bandits around the area or feeding the cows or extinct fires that the bandits had ignited.

    then there are dynamic events which will happen in the area. you will get a hint that there is an event nearby (you can check the map for an orange marker where the event happens). this can be an all out attack of further mentioned bandits or a followup events where you follow the bandits to their hideout to clear things up etc.

    not every quest/event includes combat.

     

    but basically, sounds like these are easy to do then? straightforward? i hate it if there is going to event that involves "find person x and talk to him", and i don't see person x marked anywhere on the map.

     

  • TobiasGreyTobiasGrey Worcester, MAPosts: 166Member
    Gone, thank god. Someone finally remembered that quests were a lot more fun before they became systemized hand holding chores.
  • NevulusNevulus Miami Beach, FLPosts: 1,288Member Uncommon

    The quests are easy to do. They are your standard MMO quests, just delivered in a different way. You head over to the map area where there is a heart indicator, and you follow the objectives set forth by the NPC. 

     

    IMO, it wouldve been better had they left the heart indicators out of the map completely.

  • AmjocoAmjoco Layton, UTPosts: 4,778Member Uncommon

    No, there is no hand-holding from one quest hub to the next if that is what you are asking. 

    Explore and adventure your way from one "quest" to the next with others or by yourself. 

    There are a lot of videoes that would be much more usefull. Aerowyn's Videos would be a good start.

     

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  • AerowynAerowyn BUZZARDS BAY, MAPosts: 7,928Member
    Originally posted by Nevulus

    The quests are easy to do. They are your standard MMO quests, just delivered in a different way. You head over to the map area where there is a heart indicator, and you follow the objectives set forth by the NPC.  IMO, it wouldve been better had they left the heart indicators out of the map completely.

     

    I agree they should of left hearts off the map..but seeing how people complain about lack of direction already I dunno...

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  • c-motc-mot FrankfurtPosts: 49Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by casshyr

    but basically, sounds like these are easy to do then? straightforward? i hate it if there is going to event that involves "find person x and talk to him", and i don't see person x marked anywhere on the map.

     

    the only person you might have to talk to is the one that's your "questgiver" - thats the person standing at the heart position on the map. sometimes you need to get some item or magic spell from him to do the quest. like there is a quest in the norn starter area where the questgiver (heart-npc) will transform you into a snowleopard (pretty nice stuff as you now have different skills) to do some hunting. but usually the heart quest dont need you to talk to anyone.

    the nice thing is that when there are many people doing the same heart quest and they all damage 1 mob that need to be killed all get vcerdit for their quesrt and all get loot rights.

    after you finished you might also visit the heart-npc, as you can buy special rewards from him (not fotr money but karma points - ypu get for participating in dynamic events).

  • XiaokiXiaoki White Pigeon, MIPosts: 2,602Member Uncommon

    Very easy.


    The Hearts are pretty much all "kill this" or "collect that".

    Even when they try to be unique by having you transformed into something like a pig it is still "kill this" or "collect that".


    The Dynamic Events are not much different. You only have difficulty if you attempt them solo though.

    The DEs are kill, collect, defend and escort. But the variety comes in the form of defend this for a certain number of waves, certain number of mobs or a certain amount of time.


    So, yes, even though you dont have mobs with "!" and "?" the questing is still very easy and very simple.

  • AmjocoAmjoco Layton, UTPosts: 4,778Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by Nevulus

    The quests are easy to do. They are your standard MMO quests, just delivered in a different way. You head over to the map area where there is a heart indicator, and you follow the objectives set forth by the NPC. 

     

    IMO, it wouldve been better had they left the heart indicators out of the map completely.

     

    I agree they should of left hearts off the map..but seeing how people complain about lack of direction already I dunno...

    I just gather for crafting and if a heart or DE gets in my way I conquer it. There is no reason to do the hearts unless you are trying to complete a map area.  

    OP if you like adventuring skip the hearts until you need to do them for map completion. If you like a bit more direction, do the heart quests and look for scouts that will aid you in the game. 

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  • BladestromBladestrom edinburghPosts: 4,942Member Uncommon
    I have a great example of the questing at its best. I was wandering last night past a fort when a dynamic event message popped up asking to destroy the leader and take over the fort ( and waypoint) inside. For the next 39 mins humans and npc's were locked in a close battle, on top of this because the waypoint was switching control reinforcements were ebbing and flowing. Eventually the gates closed behind us trapping the last few inside and we were routed by the boss, we lost a quest! The shocker is I didn't care, it was an absolute blast. This is what DEs are all about. Another time I may return but this time we are better organised or manage to hold open that waypoint longer and allow more players in, but then again the boss will scale up and the players comming in may not know the fight.

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  • majimaji ColognePosts: 1,995Member Uncommon

    Basically, in GW2, when you enter an area, you get automatically all quests in that area. A list at the side of your screen tells you what to do. That's then the pretty generic stuff. Kill some of these, click on some of those, and so on. The difference is, that you can just focus on one thing (like just killing evil stuff there, or just picking up items), to finish everything at once, or you can do a mix (some killing, some picking up). Doesn't matter. If you do enough "good" in that area, you will have completed it sooner or later.

    In addition, sometimes additional of these quest hubs pop up, called events, which are normally designed for multiple players. Once completed or failed, they vanish again for a while.

    So yes, of course there are quests. While beeing like the quests from other games, you just have a bit more flexibility.

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  • SnarlingWolfSnarlingWolf Thereiam, ARPosts: 2,697Member
    Originally posted by casshyr
    Originally posted by c-mot

    there are no "quests" in GW2 like you find in other games as there are no real questgivers you need to talk to.

    it all comes naturally - when you enter an area a heart shows up on your screen top right corner telling you that you are in a quest area and what to do here. there are usually different things to do which will all progress the little "quest" bar. like you get to a farm and the heart shows up telling you to help the farmer by defeating bandits around the area or feeding the cows or extinct fires that the bandits had ignited.

    then there are dynamic events which will happen in the area. you will get a hint that there is an event nearby (you can check the map for an orange marker where the event happens). this can be an all out attack of further mentioned bandits or a followup events where you follow the bandits to their hideout to clear things up etc.

    not every quest/event includes combat.

     

    but basically, sounds like these are easy to do then? straightforward? i hate it if there is going to event that involves "find person x and talk to him", and i don't see person x marked anywhere on the map.

     

    There are very few quests. There are lots and lots of repetitive tasks.

     

    Kill, gather, destroy tasks. That is 99% of the PvE in the game. You find a heart and you kill, gather, or destroy a group of objects and you get rewarded. You then go to the next area and do it again. Sometimes you'll find NPCs which will start a "dynamic event" (the dynamic part is a stretch it is just a task that opens up when someone talks to a certain NPC). These dynamic events involve..... kill tasks, gather tasks, destroy tasks, or defend tasks (aka kill tasks).

     

    That is what GW2 is. Those kill and gather tasks people complained about in other games is what this whole game is designed on. But due to the fact there are not "quest hubs" or typical "quest givers" suddenly this is a revolutionary and amazing idea.

     

    You will have zero problems finding these or finding where to be to complete them. Step outside of the heart completion radius and it disappears off your list, step back in it reappears. Annoyingly enough that radius defines credit. So in one area I was supposed to revive fallen lumberjacks or something like that. They placed one of them just outside the radius so reviving him results in no credit.

     

    You will also have no problems finding where to be for a dynamic event when it is active. Your map is circled telling you where to be.

     

     

    There are story quests which are the easiest quests known to man and you will also have no problem finding the next one. It has a green spiral symbol on the map for where it is.

  • BladestromBladestrom edinburghPosts: 4,942Member Uncommon
    That's not allways true, the event may be circled if it has started and you ate close enough to it, but that's assuming the events are in progress, often when you speak to named npc's or notice something unusual happening that you can then get Involved with to trigger an event. What muddies the waters this moment is that a large percentage of the population is moving through the zones together. Try finding am area that is quiet and the experience is very different.

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  • ThorbrandThorbrand West Palm Beach, FLPosts: 1,198Member
    Best part is when you trigger a event and the zone boss is right in fromt of you and you get bitch slapped.
  • itgrowlsitgrowls newport news, VAPosts: 2,951Member

    dynamic events are the quests essentially in GW2 tho they occur with or without you sometimes. hearts and spyglass on the maps give you the idea of the general area you should be in. Keep in mind tho that they are only temporary as you get higher in level post level 30 they start to not have as many hearts anymore tho there's lots more to do towards higher levels then the beginner zones.

    It's actually quite genius. :)

    Edited: for spelling, lack of sleep is a horrible monster.

  • grimalgrimal Stamford, CTPosts: 2,873Member Uncommon

    Quests (in this game called "Hearts" or "Dynamic Events") are pretty straightforward.  All are marked on the map for you even with the appropriate level recommended for you to participate.  They are usually gather, kill x, defend or escort in nature.  Sometimes there can be a little confusion as to what you need  to gather, but if you read the quest description, it generally provides the details needed.

    Instead of there being a quest text box that you read at the beginning of each quest, a voice usually tells you what to do and a summary appears on the quest tracker in the upper right hand of your screen.

    It's really no different than any typical themepark MMO.

  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Sioux City, IAPosts: 3,828Member


    Originally posted by casshyr
    Are the quests easy to do?  Are there clear objective markers all the time, so players don't have to go "ok, where am i suppose to go now? i don't know where to go!"

    To give you guys an idea of how much of a noob gamer i am, i got lost in skyrim. the quests are confusing for me and i literally got lost and got bored with it cuz i don't know where to go. the quest markers don't always show up for me in skyrim and often i wonder aimlessly trying to know where to go.

    Are the quests in gw2 also like skyrim quests too, where it is not always straightforward to find ur way and stuff? or are they mostly straightforward so some noob like me can do them too without frustration?


    There are 3 kinds of quests in GW2.
    1) Heart Quests - Clearly marked on your map and also appear in your task area when "in range" of the quest.
    2) Dynamic Events - Events that take place periodically in certain areas. If you are near them, you will get a message on your screen that says a dynamic event is taking place nearby. If you open your map up, you can usually see where this is.
    3) Personal Story Quests - Always shown on your map with a bright green star and always listed in your quest tracker area. These quests are more level specific.

    Unlike Skyrim, GW2 let's you know where quests are, where dynamic events are happening, and where you need to go for you personal storyline quests. Sometimes, though, you need to listen to nearby NPCs for further quests. Sometimes, NPCs may run up to you when you enter a town for a quest. When a bunch of players enter at the same time, you may miss these.

    As an example:
    There is a monastery in one of the zones. They make brew. You first help them clear out grub worms and such. Afterwards, centaurs may attack the monastery wanting that brew. After defending the monastery, you may have to guard the shipment to an outpost in a swamp. Listening to the nearby NPCs will give you clues.

    You really do not have to "look for quests" in GW2. They just kind of happen. I hope that helps a little bit :)

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  • ShakyMoShakyMo BradfordPosts: 7,207Member
    Hearts are like pqs in war, but single stage
    Des chain, and sometimes you have to do all sorts of things to trigger them, praying at statues, finding a hidden cave etc.. they aren't really like quests as such.
    The story is more like traditional quests

    All 3 are optional

    You can level through, WvW, exploring, crafting & just killing stuff
  • adam_noxadam_nox hays, KSPosts: 2,035Member Uncommon
    Have to shake my head at some of the posts here.  GW2 has quests, just 1/10th as many as any other mmo, and you just automatically are told what to do when in the relevant area.  It takes you about 15 minutes or so and that's it.  Have fun farming DEs, and randomly chopping at trees and visiting waypoints for the rest of the time if you don't WvW.
  • Sora2810Sora2810 New Columbia, PAPosts: 567Member
    Originally posted by casshyr

    Are the quests easy to do?  Are there clear objective markers all the time, so players don't have to go "ok, where am i suppose to go now? i don't know where to go!"

    To give you guys an idea of how much of a noob gamer i am, i got lost in skyrim. the quests are confusing for me and i literally got lost and got bored with it cuz i don't know where to go. the quest markers don't always show up for me in skyrim and often i wonder aimlessly trying to know where to go.

    Are the quests in gw2 also like skyrim quests too, where it is not always straightforward to find ur way and stuff? or are they mostly straightforward so some noob like me can do them too without frustration?

    • Are quests easy = They can be, since you can do several different things to complete a quest (AKA Renown heart). Example: "Help this ranch!", "Dispose of centaur forces, asisst citizens, and put out fires" If you want to kill the centaurs, you can, if you want to put out fires or search for citizens in help, you can do that too. All of it counts towards a 'progress bar' that, when full, completes the "quest".
    • Clear markers = Not always, however it's always in the general vicinity of the heart. When you do not see the heart progress bar on the top right anymore, you either completed it, or too far away. However, it's usually pretty clear what you're supposed to do and it never makes you go across the map to do the quest. It won't always point out the actual objectives, but you never go very far. Dynamic events are also clearly marker.
    • They are usually straight forward. Most are obvious, however some things can contribute that aren't marked. Back to helping a ranch, reviving the ranch hands count towards your progress. That isn't listed on the quest description. 
    To end; the quests are easy to understand and you can visually see them happen. So when it says stop bandits from attacking the water pipes, look for the big pipes that are literally being destroyed by bandits. It'll mark a circle on your map, so it'll be hard to become lost when finding the quest.

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  • adam_noxadam_nox hays, KSPosts: 2,035Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by AlBQuirky

    As an example:
    You kill centaurs.  Then you kill some more centaurs.  Then some centaurs attack and you kill them.  Then you escort someone who's attacked by centaurs.

    Modified slightly.

  • EvolvedMonkyEvolvedMonky Tulsa, OKPosts: 549Member

    If your an alt aholic like me ull like the quest system. Everytime ive played a new alt i find new events, and dont find others. The ones around the hearts are easy to do and trigger often (where most of the players end up camping) and the masses/sheep will do those events over and over.

    Now if you go away from the hearts youll find events where ull be solo or only 3 or 4 other players with you. Yesterday my current main had a npc run up and ask to help save a submarine. Well i suck at water combat so i was going to abandon the effort then 2 more players showed up and long story short the event failed. To many speratists and like i said i suck underwater. I also seem to fail the char kids escort event unless theres a large amounts of players helpping. Some are easy to do solo like the seperatist road block..

    The quest system is different from other mmos dont let the haters fool you. 

    Hearts are only there realy to buy some items and show you a general area where events are at. The majority of the quests u will be doing are random events... and some do have stages.  Now this is unlike Rift which was a random mob/boss spawn. These events make the world seem alive.

    Like one time I was near a town and i saw a npc yelling at two npc grunts then she sent em off and they went runing. Well I followed and it was a start of an event ive done many times but always in the middle. 

    Ofcourse some people may not like this since you are not the center of  the universe(except in the personal story quests but those are a small part of the game) the world just does its thing, it will try to get u involved but there are no guard rails like in most theme parks where you go from quest hub to quest hub and if you deviate ur screwed in lvling and have to grind. 

    If your a gamer who doesnt get all the rings or coins in games like me then you wont even do most of the hearts, You can just wander around and stumble upon events.  Yes there area also treasure chests in hidden areas. 

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  • KareliaKarelia HeraklionPosts: 668Member
    Originally posted by casshyr

    Are the quests easy to do?  Are there clear objective markers all the time, so players don't have to go "ok, where am i suppose to go now? i don't know where to go!"

    To give you guys an idea of how much of a noob gamer i am, i got lost in skyrim. the quests are confusing for me and i literally got lost and got bored with it cuz i don't know where to go. the quest markers don't always show up for me in skyrim and often i wonder aimlessly trying to know where to go.

    Are the quests in gw2 also like skyrim quests too, where it is not always straightforward to find ur way and stuff? or are they mostly straightforward so some noob like me can do them too without frustration?

    quests (or whatever you call them) are boooriiiing...

  • AmjocoAmjoco Layton, UTPosts: 4,778Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by adam_nox
    Have to shake my head at some of the posts here.  GW2 has quests, just 1/10th as many as any other mmo, and you just automatically are told what to do when in the relevant area.  It takes you about 15 minutes or so and that's it.  Have fun farming DEs, and randomly chopping at trees and visiting waypoints for the rest of the time if you don't WvW.

    You just described an mmorpg for him. Funny one should come to mmorpg.com for information concerning a new game and ask questions about it.. 

    Where are you getting 1/10th from? Please supply a link. I do believe you are pulling stuff out of the air. 

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  • WhiteLanternWhiteLantern Nevada, MOPosts: 2,732Member

    *looks around sheepishly, I mean goatishly

     

    I think I'll leave this opinion here for you guys:

    If WoW had chosen to revamp their questing system with Cata to be in line with what GW2 has now (i.e. quests are given automatically and you don't interact with NPCs), the MMO playerbase would have decried the move as "dumbing down the genre even more".

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