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  • nsignificnsignific ljPosts: 212Member

    I just agree with the OP. WoW is just king in my book, and even though people tell me I'm missing out on new games (I'm really not, I try them *all*), I can't ignore just how much better WoW is (for me, obviously, altough as God is my witness I have no idea why other's  don't as well).

    It makes me sad that nothing has topped it, but then again, nothing has ever topped Street Fighter II, Super Mario Kart, Counter-Strike and countless others. Some things are just forever, evergreen, never to be surpassed or forgotten.

    WoW is just one of those things.

    I'll still try and play new stuff, of course, now and again something will hook me, I'm sure, but until Titan I have no real hope of replacing WoW.

  • rygard49rygard49 Huntington Beach, CAPosts: 975Member

    It's been about a year since I've played the game, and I just got the 7 day free email promotion for ramping up to MoP. I've been debating going back for some time now since none of the new releases have interested me. I'll likely be buying MoP to play the monk class (I'm a sucker for new classes), but this is a great way to see if I'll enjoy the game again.

    I think WoW still has more activities and fun than all of the "nextgen" releases. Nothing else really seems to gel with me.

  • BadaboomBadaboom Moose Jaw, SKPosts: 2,380Member
    Originally posted by rygard49

    It's been about a year since I've played the game, and I just got the 7 day free email promotion for ramping up to MoP. I've been debating going back for some time now since none of the new releases have interested me. I'll likely be buying MoP to play the monk class (I'm a sucker for new classes), but this is a great way to see if I'll enjoy the game again.

    I think WoW still has more activities and fun than all of the "nextgen" releases. Nothing else is really seems to to gel with me.

    To each their own.  I hope you have fun.  I completely disagree with you on the activities thing though.

  • rygard49rygard49 Huntington Beach, CAPosts: 975Member
    Originally posted by Badaboom
    Originally posted by rygard49

    It's been about a year since I've played the game, and I just got the 7 day free email promotion for ramping up to MoP. I've been debating going back for some time now since none of the new releases have interested me. I'll likely be buying MoP to play the monk class (I'm a sucker for new classes), but this is a great way to see if I'll enjoy the game again.

    I think WoW still has more activities and fun than all of the "nextgen" releases. Nothing else is really seems to to gel with me.

    To each their own.  I hope you have fun.  I completely disagree with you on the activities thing though.

    That's cool. Each game has things we enjoy or don't. All I meant was that WoW has more things that I enjoy than other games I've tried in the past year.

  • KeyloggerKeylogger Bumblefuck, TNPosts: 250Member


    Originally posted by Foomerang
    ah titan. its details are probably the best kept secret in gaming right now. part of me is hoping blizzard shocks the world with a fully realized sandbox/virtual world mmorg.

    It'll be a Starcrafty MMOFPS with TF2-style graphics, EAVision's version of "Facebook" integration, a RMAH + Itam Mall + B2P+Subscription model.

  • mmojunkie5000mmojunkie5000 AkliaburgPosts: 92Member
    Originally posted by SuperDonk

    I didn't want to do it, I wanted GW2 to be my last hope...

     

    blabla

     

    I know now not to prepurchase another MMO because I always end up back on my rogue, ganking at will, under stealth. I'm sorry GW2, you will be a great game for many.... just not me image.

    yeah...

    sure... the guy who can't PvP if he is seen thinks the game with balanced PvP is his last hope...

     

    keep trolling...

    see, rogues are OP and played by people who can't handle a fair fight. why would you ever leave WoW?

    ganking simply doesn'T work like that in GW2.

    and that's what you do. get uber gear through time spent in the game, then gank noobs from stealth and stunlocking them.

     

    what a hero you are. you exemplify the WoW player PvP attitude.

     

    there is stealth in GW2, but not imbalanced

  • mmojunkie5000mmojunkie5000 AkliaburgPosts: 92Member
    Originally posted by rygard49
    Originally posted by Badaboom
    Originally posted by rygard49

    It's been about a year since I've played the game, and I just got the 7 day free email promotion for ramping up to MoP. I've been debating going back for some time now since none of the new releases have interested me. I'll likely be buying MoP to play the monk class (I'm a sucker for new classes), but this is a great way to see if I'll enjoy the game again.

    I think WoW still has more activities and fun than all of the "nextgen" releases. Nothing else is really seems to to gel with me.

    To each their own.  I hope you have fun.  I completely disagree with you on the activities thing though.

    That's cool. Each game has things we enjoy or don't. All I meant was that WoW has more things that I enjoy than other games I've tried in the past year.

    what activities? WoW has none.

    GW2 has minigames like Kegbrawl

  • mmojunkie5000mmojunkie5000 AkliaburgPosts: 92Member
    Originally posted by Krystalmyth
    Originally posted by coretex666
    Originally posted by SuperDonk
    Originally posted by Krystalmyth
    Originally posted by SuperDonk

     There is nothing in GW2 that is like my rogue in WoW....

    No, there is nothing like the ez mode stunlocking class you're used to in GW2. It seems you will have to return to WoW to feel like you're a good player.

    No offense, but this was very pathetic, but expected. World of Warcraft was designed to make people feel really good about themselves with a constantly shifting balance cycle that often made its more popular classes quite broken. You're a product of that. Not sure why you expected a game that strives to be balanced to make you feel as strong as you did when you were overpowered.

     It's pathetic that I like rogue? I guess this type of response is to be expected posting something positive about WoW on these forums.

     Rogue is one of the most difficult classes to play in arena at high rating.

    That's awfully convenient. They sure won't have a lot of trouble getting there at least. Plenty of time to practice.

    My point with my post is that the OP was sad that he can't find an equivalent to the Rogue class in GW2. A class designed strictly to take as much control away from an opponent as possible while denying control upon himself. A class that's perfect in any composition in PvP simply by the sheer power of taking the away the mouse and keyboard from a player possibly better than himself, but caught in the net of a class with superior design. Design elements that completely disregard an opponent. The OP is disappointed there is no equivalent to a class that inherently shatters a game so much, that strategies have to revolve around his very existence.

    I wish WoW had a meta-game that introduced ingenuity in its PvP, at any level~ but it doesn't. It used to. Maybe~ but it's become a very stale title of fluctuating power that typically has the Rogue in a very strong position or a very weak position because it is inherently a terrible class that succeeds only by being broken in doing what it does best. Fortunately for GW2 there is no equivalent.

    Yes, he can go back to WoW if that's what he wishes. That game is DESIGNED for people like him to play it. It is meant to be enjoyed by a group of people who want an easier experience, and an overall sense of worth despite a lower cap in skill. The entire game from PvE revolves around it, and yet PvP is somehow devoid of it? 

    You really think Blizzard, the same people who dumbed down Diablo 3 to the point of idiocy~ who have made WoW the laughing stock of the PvE community in MMOs due to its ease and casual nature, will somehow not apply this philosophy to its PvP? The OP favors a game that makes him feel strong when he's not and playing GW2 is a sharp wake-up call, and who can blame him for wanting to go back to the dream? I sure can't. I'll call it out for what it is though. I can do that, at the very least. You're all entitled to play whatever the hell you want.

    well said

  • SuperDonkSuperDonk Vancouver, WAPosts: 781Member Common
    Originally posted by mmojunkie5000
    Originally posted by SuperDonk

    I didn't want to do it, I wanted GW2 to be my last hope...

     

    blabla

     

    I know now not to prepurchase another MMO because I always end up back on my rogue, ganking at will, under stealth. I'm sorry GW2, you will be a great game for many.... just not me image.

    yeah...

    sure... the guy who can't PvP if he is seen thinks the game with balanced PvP is his last hope...

     

    keep trolling...

    see, rogues are OP and played by people who can't handle a fair fight. why would you ever leave WoW?

    ganking simply doesn'T work like that in GW2.

    and that's what you do. get uber gear through time spent in the game, then gank noobs from stealth and stunlocking them.

     

    what a hero you are. you exemplify the WoW player PvP attitude.

     

    there is stealth in GW2, but not imbalanced

     I started a new toon that I have never played before, Paladin. I'm still having more fun than I was with GW2.

     

    Your theory - destroyed. Keep it up though, there is nothing funnier than angery gamers.

  • GravebladeGraveblade Weston-Super-MarePosts: 406Member

    I am an avid mmorpg gamer and started off on mmo's 16 years ago, have played pretty much every mmorpg out there. Now I am not a wow fanboy by any stretch but the fact is wow is actually one of the most feature full mmorpg's there is. There are many different ways to do pve AND pvp whether it is solo, group or raid and there is a large active playerbase whether in the US or EU.

     

    Now ofcourse in the end if you do not like the game mechanics, lore or style of the game for example, that is just personal opinion which everyone is entitled to.

  • mark2123mark2123 LondonPosts: 308Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by SuperDonk
    Originally posted by MrReality
    No staying power in GW2. It is good for the short term unfortunately. Not saying that a 2004 created WoW is the almighty in gaming but it certainly has captured the hearts of gamers around the world. We just need Titan to be better. :)

     Titan will be the next MMO I buy, I'm done spending money on MMOs that just don't do it for me.

     

    And that said, if Titan is not the PVP I want, I'll once again return to WoW...

    Tell me about  Titan. What's it about and what does it do?

  • roo67roo67 londonPosts: 402Member
    WoW still has some of the best PVP in an mmorpg . Its the only thing it still does well though. The rest of its stale and easy . I can understand someone going back for the PVP . I do it for a month or two a year when I'm working away from home (have a laptop that wont play many mmos ) . But for PVE or world PVP its trash . I dont know a lot about GW2 but it seems amazing from what I've seen so far . The good thing for the OP is when he goes back and remembers how boring the bulk of  WoWs content  is he can return to GW2 at any time .
  • Eir_SEir_S Argyle, NYPosts: 4,623Member
    Originally posted by mark2123

    Tell me about  Titan. What's it about and what does it do?

    No one knows, they're just prepared to buy it because it says Blizzard.  Good little sheep, don't run too far from the flock now.  I remember the good old days when you at least had to hear some features or see some video of a game before you sacrificed your first born to it.  GW2 hype will be nothing, NOTHING.. compared to Titan.  It's already started.

  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer ChairPosts: 5,590Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Indol

    To me it sounds like you weren't ready to give GW2 a fair shake.

     

    I'm sure it took you time and effort to learn how to pvp in WoW, and similarly it takes time and effort to learn another game.

    LOL, If the game doesn't capture me in the 1st 5-10 minutes, I rarely go back.  Back when I did play WoW, I didn't feel like I HAD to learn. I felt like I WANTED to learn.

     

    OP doesn't feel like he WATNS to learn what he doesn't know. And TBH, After 2 weeks in GW2, I think most of us know how it's gonna play out. If he doesn't like it now, he's probably not going to like it after he "sticks it out"

  • rygard49rygard49 Huntington Beach, CAPosts: 975Member
    Originally posted by mmojunkie5000
    Originally posted by rygard49
    Originally posted by Badaboom
    Originally posted by rygard49

    It's been about a year since I've played the game, and I just got the 7 day free email promotion for ramping up to MoP. I've been debating going back for some time now since none of the new releases have interested me. I'll likely be buying MoP to play the monk class (I'm a sucker for new classes), but this is a great way to see if I'll enjoy the game again.

    I think WoW still has more activities and fun than all of the "nextgen" releases. Nothing else is really seems to to gel with me.

    To each their own.  I hope you have fun.  I completely disagree with you on the activities thing though.

    That's cool. Each game has things we enjoy or don't. All I meant was that WoW has more things that I enjoy than other games I've tried in the past year.

    what activities? WoW has none.

    GW2 has minigames like Kegbrawl

    You're misinformed. WoW has many and varied activities and minigames. Here's a small list for example, just as proof that it has more than 'none':

    • Fishing
    • Archeology
    • Seasonal Mini-Games
    • Darkmoon Fair Mini-Games
  • SuperDonkSuperDonk Vancouver, WAPosts: 781Member Common
    Originally posted by mark2123
    Originally posted by SuperDonk
    Originally posted by MrReality
    No staying power in GW2. It is good for the short term unfortunately. Not saying that a 2004 created WoW is the almighty in gaming but it certainly has captured the hearts of gamers around the world. We just need Titan to be better. :)

     Titan will be the next MMO I buy, I'm done spending money on MMOs that just don't do it for me.

     

    And that said, if Titan is not the PVP I want, I'll once again return to WoW...

    Tell me about  Titan. What's it about and what does it do?

     I don't know much about Titan, I don't think anyone does. What I do know it's made by Blizzard and even if I don't end up likeing it, I know it will be polished and easy to pick up.

     

    I'm sure there are those who will avoid it for the same reasons that I will buy it, but that doesn't matter to me.

     

    I'm hoping it is more sandboxy than themepark - sort of like WoW. And before everyone gets on my case about saying WoW is sandboxy, it has many elements that sandbox games have; a large open world, many different ways to play it, and a nice variety of classes and class specialites. I think that is why WoW does so well, it is a nice blend of sandbox and themepark.

  • ghostfaeriesghostfaeries the Land of OooPosts: 86Member
    is there even a game out there that has pvp like wow?
  • JackdogJackdog Charleston, SCPosts: 6,344Member
    Originally posted by Tibernicus
    WoW does not offer anything that other MMOs don't do better.

    what about cute lil panda's?

    I miss DAoC

  • Bushi131Bushi131 of angelsPosts: 62Member

    I was definitly disapointed with PvP on my engineer, but after looking on the web I stumble upon a really different build, something I haven't thought of yet.

    I did try this new build and after some tweaking I really liked what I was playing.

    Just saying , maybe there is some build / gameplay that you didn't thougth of yet.

  • Tutu2Tutu2 MelbournePosts: 564Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by MrReality
    No staying power in GW2. It is good for the short term unfortunately. Not saying that a 2004 created WoW is the almighty in gaming but it certainly has captured the hearts of gamers around the world. We just need Titan to be better. :)

    I'm happy the OP has gone back to the game he loves most, WoW is still awesome, however to say GW2 has no staying power is being way too harsh and its way too early to tell. The game wasn't designed for hardcore-type players who care only for end-game content and get max level in 2 weeks in the most effiecient manner possible. Half of the fun is exploration and finding hidden things. I love the PvP is actually genuinely skill based over gear based. It's tough for some players to adjust I guess.

  • TheHavokTheHavok San Jose, CAPosts: 2,398Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Tibernicus
    WoW does not offer anything that other MMOs don't do better.

    Not true in the slightest. Much of what WoW offers is BETTER than what its competitiors offer.  Play more WoW - and play more fantasy mmorpgs.  Start saying things that are relevant - it might help you in life.

  • KoreanSoWhatKoreanSoWhat TOronto, ONPosts: 80Member
    Originally posted by Tutu2
    Originally posted by MrReality
    No staying power in GW2. It is good for the short term unfortunately. Not saying that a 2004 created WoW is the almighty in gaming but it certainly has captured the hearts of gamers around the world. We just need Titan to be better. :)

    I'm happy the OP has gone back to the game he loves most, WoW is still awesome, however to say GW2 has no staying power is being way too harsh and its way too early to tell. The game wasn't designed for hardcore-type players who care only for end-game content and get max level in 2 weeks in the most effiecient manner possible. Half of the fun is exploration and finding hidden things. I love the PvP is actually genuinely skill based over gear based. It's tough for some players to adjust I guess.

    GW2 doesn't offer exploration. MAYBE you can say GW2 offers it for first 2 weeks. After that, there is no exploration, its all same repeat.

  • SuperDonkSuperDonk Vancouver, WAPosts: 781Member Common

    Honestly, I have already moved on from WoW too. I logged in, played a Pally to about level 20, and felt the same boredom I felt with GW2 after a week or so. I'm done with MMOs for the near future.

     

    I don't want to go on another rant, so I'll just link the one I went on last night.

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/365011/Its-not-you-its-me.html

     

    Sorry guys, WoW was good to me for years, but it is just not enough anymore. Blizzard already has the $40 I spent on the panda expansion, but I don't care, I'll just skip my weekly weekend pub visit next week to recover the cost.

     

     

  • battleaxe22battleaxe22 Cluj-NapocaPosts: 303Member
    I know im going back to wow just to explore a new continent.
  • Tutu2Tutu2 MelbournePosts: 564Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by KoreanSoWhat
    Originally posted by Tutu2
    Originally posted by MrReality
    No staying power in GW2. It is good for the short term unfortunately. Not saying that a 2004 created WoW is the almighty in gaming but it certainly has captured the hearts of gamers around the world. We just need Titan to be better. :)

    I'm happy the OP has gone back to the game he loves most, WoW is still awesome, however to say GW2 has no staying power is being way too harsh and its way too early to tell. The game wasn't designed for hardcore-type players who care only for end-game content and get max level in 2 weeks in the most effiecient manner possible. Half of the fun is exploration and finding hidden things. I love the PvP is actually genuinely skill based over gear based. It's tough for some players to adjust I guess.

    GW2 doesn't offer exploration. MAYBE you can say GW2 offers it for first 2 weeks. After that, there is no exploration, its all same repeat.

    Lol 2 weeks? You could not possibly explore everything in every map in 2 weeks unless you're playing 10+ hours straight every single day; and even then its really pushing it to say 2 weeks. The maps are huge and packed with loads of little nooks and crannies. And even if exploring isn't your thing, the game still has a huge amount of overall content for the typical player. I doubt you would have seen the outcome for most DEs after two weeks.

    There are valid complaints about this game definately and I am not a blind fanboi, but honestly half these people are so accoustomed to WoW and the rushing to end-game mentality and expecting to be hand held everywhere, its no wonder theyr'e bored so fast. They are missing loads of content.

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