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Originally posted by TobiasGrey Originally posted by gaeanprayer What level areas are you talking about? People are constantly chatting in both the beginner areas (Queensdale and the like) and the 70+ areas where many people are hanging out these days. High level areas are especially hectic between map chat and dungeon party spam (so want an LFG tool if only to get rid of that). Could also be your server, too. My guild switched to Stormbluff after a pvp alliance left out server and took most people with them, had trouble getting teams together since the people left behind were all very casual and mostly 20-40ish. Map chat was pretty empty there, too. This was frostpeak, btw.
We're not talking about bored people spamming global chat. We're talking about people actually socializing with eachother in the world. No one EVER responds to local chat ANYWHERE.
I like how you took what I said and claimed it meant the exact opposite of what it meant. People socialize plenty. So much that I made a tab that only have guild, party and whisper chat enabled so I can avoid it whenever I get tired of it. That's usually the tab I'm in. But no, I don't see much socializing in the mid-level range maps, they're more quiet. Like I said, nub areas, and 70+, plenty people talking. That they don't use local chat to do it means little, it's not necessary. Most obviously prefer to communicate with the whole map rather than just those in immediate range (as this, obviously, gives them MORE options for socializing) not to mention people are generally only in immediate range while in the middle of a fight. Sorry if I don't want to stop to shoot the shit with you while I'm trying not to die, but that's what whisper/guild/party chat/mail is for.
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Originally posted by spizz Anyone else has the expirience that almost nobody is using the chat for social interaction ? Seriously......I had similar expirience in cheap f2p games some years ago but wonder why this is the case in GW2 currently. Is this a result of an too easy themepark or what is the reason ?
People are playing the game rather than chatting in general maybe? Or the fact that it's not a lobby based dungeon system for people to chat while they wait? I'm sure in a month there will be more social interaction, especially in major cities/Lion's Arch. For now it's more fun to play. Finding a good guild with VoIP would be good for those who want to be more social.
Originally posted by TobiasGrey /snip
Give people time to get used to a good community. Other than enjoying the game, by now a lot of people don't even have the general chat open because of those who do actually park there. One of the first things I do in a game, at first at least, is to create another tab for whispers/group/guild. I usually have friends and guildies playing the same games I do so I talk to them until I know the game a bit and then feel out the community. I've had enough of the Anal (insert ability link) garbage. I do however chat locally in /say.
Just the other day I started checking out GW2 map chat on Maguuma. It's really good other than reporting constantly for the power-level/gold spams in Lion's Arch.
Originally posted by Bruise187 Play wow and see how much chat is going on.. if you arent in a city . only other spot that has any chat or di was barrens... do you really want that?
WoW is the perfect example of an anti social online game.
Originally posted by Aelious Originally posted by TobiasGrey /snip
Give people time to get used to a good community. Other than enjoying the game, by now a lot of people don't even have the general chat open because of those who do actually park there. One of the first things I do in a game, at first at least, is to create another tab for whispers/group/guild. I usually have friends and guildies playing the same games I do so I talk to them until I know the game a bit and then feel out the community. I've had enough of the Anal garbage. I do however chat locally in /say.
We're not talking about map chat. And no amount of waiting is going to solve a problem that stems from the way the game is designed.
Originally posted by TobiasGrey
I have a tab with guild/party/say/whisper only. I don't read Map chat. A lot of time are nonsense anyway. On top of that, I have voip from guild. Plenty of chatter there.
It is not a problem for me. I joined this guild which is new and I do not know anyone before GW2. Now we social a lot. I do not see why I want to chat in general area.
If I really want to socialize with people, I go to a local bar.
Originally posted by zakiyawow Originally posted by TobiasGrey
"In 50 years, when I talk to my grandchildren about these days, I'll make sure to mention what an accomplished MMO player I was. They are going to be so proud ..."by Naqaj - 7/17/2013 MMORPG.com forum
Originally posted by adam_nox Originally posted by zakiyawow Originally posted by TobiasGrey
I suppose you don't live in a college town. Bars are actually fun and lively.
Originally posted by botrytis GW is designed as a total COOP play game. Don't want to be social - there are other games for that.
GW2 was/is supposed to be something for everyone (well almost everyone) and a sense of community is very important for longevity of a game. I don't 'generally' mind the lack of chat but sometimes I do get concerned that I don't see a map comment for an hour or more at a time.
Other than the occasional gold seller....
Because GW2 is VERY anti-social. It's all nonstop pewpew and no need to interact with anyone.
Probably one of the most anti-social "mmos" I've ever experienced.
Now before all the fanboys get all frothy at the mouth, its a fun game and worth the 50 bux, but don't expect to meet people and make friends like in other mmos.
Yea, I'm not sure what you guys are talking about but everywhere I go in the game people are chatting in /map.
Maybe it's the server you're on? Or the time of day you play?
Originally posted by heartless Yea, I'm not sure what you guys are talking about but everywhere I go in the game people are chatting in /map. Maybe it's the server you're on? Or the time of day you play?
The problem is not the map, server or time of day. It is the person generalizing.
Originally posted by Badaboom Originally posted by heartless Yea, I'm not sure what you guys are talking about but everywhere I go in the game people are chatting in /map. Maybe it's the server you're on? Or the time of day you play?
My guild's chat is so spammed with conversations that I mostly watch the chat than the game (as my job is to moderate the guild, and it's no easy job to handle 400+ people).
All in all people are occupied with gameplay and there's no need for them to chat about nonsense in world channel.
I'm not sure what servers you guys are on, I'm on Yak's Bend and chat is hopping in most of the starting zones, Kessex Hills, Gendarran Fields, Lion's Arch, WvWvW zones, you name it.
If you don't like having other people around you that influence your gameplay, then you really shouldn't be playing an MMO. You especially shouldn't be playing an MMO and then yelling at all the people who are fans of MMO when the game has a flaw.
This isn't about map chat. It seems a lot of the people posting are just GW2 fans who didn't read the thread and are chiming in to defend it...
Originally posted by Thorbrand Well chat isn't needed anymore in MMOs anyway. Most gamers should be on voice if they are a true gamers. I haven't used chat for anything by guild or tells for years.
I know form other tactical shooters that there are problems if it is not an organized team. I would switch it off probably since chat isnt annoying like sound in certain situations. Chat is fine and necessary in a public game environment.
Originally posted by Four0Six When I log in I send a greeting out on Map chat. Today I got teh first responce in 3 days. Then I realized it wasnt in responce to me but was an attempt to fill a group. for AC explore. I do however get lots of gold/powerleveling spam mail. Which I find unexpected as the claim was made that being able to buy gems would cancel this out.
Weird, what servers are gold sellers active on? I haven't seen any mail or even any gold selling chat whatsoever. Guild chat is really slow, though normal chat seems pretty normal for an MMO, especially when there's reason to start yelling at people.
Originally posted by TobiasGrey Originally posted by heartless Yea, I'm not sure what you guys are talking about but everywhere I go in the game people are chatting in /map. Maybe it's the server you're on? Or the time of day you play?
Your post makes no sense. The topic is about no one in game talking, people are pointing out that /map seems to be the most active but then you claim this is not about map chat? Is that because /map proves you wrong? It seems to me you are just unhappy that you are wrong.
Then you say that a lot of people are just GW2 fans jumping in to defend without reading. They are jumping in telling people where to find the conversations people are claiming do not happen. Well they do happen on /map.
Originally posted by JoeyMMO Originally posted by Four0Six When I log in I send a greeting out on Map chat. Today I got teh first responce in 3 days. Then I realized it wasnt in responce to me but was an attempt to fill a group. for AC explore. I do however get lots of gold/powerleveling spam mail. Which I find unexpected as the claim was made that being able to buy gems would cancel this out.
I am on Anvil Rock and I get about two gold seller emails a day and see about 3-5 gold sellers if I spend any time in Divinitys Reach. I see them in /map not in /say or any other channel.
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Originally posted by rodingo Originally posted by xpiher People chat all the time and I play 4am EST - 10AM EST. It just depends on where you are.
No, it doesn't matter where some of these guys are. They are just looking for a way to keep filling up the forums with empty complaints. In one hand they will say that GW2 doesn't bring any new features or invovation to the genre (i'm not saying it does, but they like to remind us that it doesn't). Then on the other hand they will complain becuase it has the same features and social aspects of other mmos and pretty much the same chat set up, yet they say GW2 and it's player base are uniquely the only players and game to be anti-social.
Most of us who actually play the game see the chat channles filled with idle banter, game discussions, and some Q and A. So why do these select few mysteriously don't? The only thing I find odd about chat is the actual lack of WoW conversations. There is usually one tool in most mmos that can't resist trying to start a WoW conversation. I'm starting to wonder if that's what some of these guys are doing and being surpirsed that no one wants to oblige them.
I agree with everything. If people doubt the chat they should just go to twitchtv and pull up a GW2 stream. Simple enough.
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