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Guild Wars 2: 2 Million and Counting

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  • ZylaxxZylaxx Erlanger, KYPosts: 2,574Member
    Originally posted by Lethality
    Originally posted by Galadourn
    Originally posted by kadepsyson
    Originally posted by fatboy21007
    Look out WoW,  some1 is gaining steam XD

    WoW has more subscribers than GW2 ever will

    define 'ever'....

    Let's put it this way... even after everyone tires of WoW,  because the game is so good and has so many fans, it will never, ever get lower than 2-3 million subscribers... ever.

    Guild Wars 2 is just selling boxes, there's no way to measure the number of "players" and it's doubtful ArenaNet will ever need to report that since it has nothing to do with financials. So we'll never know how many people are playing.  

    For example, I bought it, but I've already uninstalled it.

     

     

    Sorry WoW only has 3-4 million subs across NA and EU.  The rest of WoW's subs are from penny an hour internet cafes in Asia.

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  • EletherylEletheryl morenoPosts: 152Member
    Is a B2P game, Like BF3 or D3. Lot of people brought the game and quit a few days after or is not even playing, it could sell 3 mill of copies and have less than 200k active players after a month.
  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer ChairPosts: 5,590Member Uncommon

    I have done no research so I'm only repeating numebrs that have been thrown around here for years.

    If GW2, has currently sold 2M boxes, how many boxes has WoW sold?

    If 10M players bought the original game plus 3, now 4 expanisons, we are looking at not 10M boxes but multiples of 10M boxes.

    Like what 40M boxes over the years?

  • QuicklyScottQuicklyScott BristolPosts: 433Member
    Originally posted by Eletheryl
    Is a B2P game, Like BF3 or D3. Lot of people brought the game and quit a few days after or is not even playing, it could sell 3 mill of copies and have less than 200k active players after a month.

    True. I bought GW1, played it for about a month, then never played it again.  I wonder how many may do the same with GW2.

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  • TrikkeTrikke Jackson, MIPosts: 90Member
    And 1.1 million of those are bots.
  • QuicklyScottQuicklyScott BristolPosts: 433Member
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer

    I have done no research so I'm only repeating numebrs that have been thrown around here for years.

    If GW2, has currently sold 2M boxes, how many boxes has WoW sold?

    If 10M players bought the original game plus 3, now 4 expanisons, we are looking at not 10M boxes but multiples of 10M boxes.

    Like what 40M boxes over the years?

    It is estimated WoW sold between 60-80 million boxes.

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  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer ChairPosts: 5,590Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by QuicklyScott
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer

    I have done no research so I'm only repeating numebrs that have been thrown around here for years.

    If GW2, has currently sold 2M boxes, how many boxes has WoW sold?

    If 10M players bought the original game plus 3, now 4 expanisons, we are looking at not 10M boxes but multiples of 10M boxes.

    Like what 40M boxes over the years?

    It is estimated WoW sold between 60-80 million boxes.

    I was off by a few huh?

  • IceAgeIceAge SomeWhere In ..Posts: 1,013Member Common
    Originally posted by QuicklyScott
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer

    I have done no research so I'm only repeating numebrs that have been thrown around here for years.

    If GW2, has currently sold 2M boxes, how many boxes has WoW sold?

    If 10M players bought the original game plus 3, now 4 expanisons, we are looking at not 10M boxes but multiples of 10M boxes.

    Like what 40M boxes over the years?

    It is estimated WoW sold between 60-80 million boxes.

    It's a VERY bad estimation. People from Asia does not buy boxes, you got that?

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  • caetftlcaetftl Los Angeles, CAPosts: 358Member
    Originally posted by QuicklyScott
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer

    I have done no research so I'm only repeating numebrs that have been thrown around here for years.

    If GW2, has currently sold 2M boxes, how many boxes has WoW sold?

    If 10M players bought the original game plus 3, now 4 expanisons, we are looking at not 10M boxes but multiples of 10M boxes.

    Like what 40M boxes over the years?

    It is estimated WoW sold between 60-80 million boxes.

     

    WoW is estimated at around half of that.  To achieve those numbers they would have had to sell 15-20million boxes of the original, and then every expansion after that would have had to sell the exact same amount. 

    Originally posted by IceAge
    Originally posted by QuicklyScott
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer

    I have done no research so I'm only repeating numebrs that have been thrown around here for years.

    If GW2, has currently sold 2M boxes, how many boxes has WoW sold?

    If 10M players bought the original game plus 3, now 4 expanisons, we are looking at not 10M boxes but multiples of 10M boxes.

    Like what 40M boxes over the years?

    It is estimated WoW sold between 60-80 million boxes.

    It's a VERY bad estimation. People from Asia does not buy boxes, you got that?

     


    But the pc cafes they play from buy boxes...

     
     
  • AmjocoAmjoco Layton, UTPosts: 4,781Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Icewhite

    Lunch time, I think.  Can I sell anybody a t-shirt?

    The "fanboy" on one side and "hater" on the reverse is quite popular today.

    Ew I want 2 of them. Do you have the one of the Guardian and the Paladin shaking hands? That is my favorite!

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  • LethalityLethality Apopka, FLPosts: 61Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Zylaxx
    Originally posted by Lethality
    Originally posted by Galadourn
    Originally posted by kadepsyson
    Originally posted by fatboy21007
    Look out WoW,  some1 is gaining steam XD

    WoW has more subscribers than GW2 ever will

    define 'ever'....

    Let's put it this way... even after everyone tires of WoW,  because the game is so good and has so many fans, it will never, ever get lower than 2-3 million subscribers... ever.

    Guild Wars 2 is just selling boxes, there's no way to measure the number of "players" and it's doubtful ArenaNet will ever need to report that since it has nothing to do with financials. So we'll never know how many people are playing.  

    For example, I bought it, but I've already uninstalled it.

     

     

    Sorry WoW only has 3-4 million subs across NA and EU.  The rest of WoW's subs are from penny an hour internet cafes in Asia.

    Nope.

  • LethalityLethality Apopka, FLPosts: 61Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by IceAge
    Originally posted by QuicklyScott
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer

    I have done no research so I'm only repeating numebrs that have been thrown around here for years.

    If GW2, has currently sold 2M boxes, how many boxes has WoW sold?

    If 10M players bought the original game plus 3, now 4 expanisons, we are looking at not 10M boxes but multiples of 10M boxes.

    Like what 40M boxes over the years?

    It is estimated WoW sold between 60-80 million boxes.

    It's a VERY bad estimation. People from Asia does not buy boxes, you got that?

    Sure they do. 

  • IceAgeIceAge SomeWhere In ..Posts: 1,013Member Common
    Originally posted by caetftl
    Originally posted by QuicklyScott
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer

    I have done no research so I'm only repeating numebrs that have been thrown around here for years.

    If GW2, has currently sold 2M boxes, how many boxes has WoW sold?

    If 10M players bought the original game plus 3, now 4 expanisons, we are looking at not 10M boxes but multiples of 10M boxes.

    Like what 40M boxes over the years?

    It is estimated WoW sold between 60-80 million boxes.

     

    WoW is estimated at around half of that.  To achieve those numbers they would have had to sell 15-20million boxes of the original, and then every expansion after that would have had to sell the exact same amount. 

    Not to mentionate the : Battlechests, promotions, off-sale, scroll of resurect which lets you upgrade your wow account to cataclysm only if you return and pay the monthly fees of 15$ and so on..

    So box sales it's not = to 60$

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  • QuicklyScottQuicklyScott BristolPosts: 433Member
    I must of got that wrong then, I remember reading that estimate from a reputable website.  Regardless, they've sold a crap load.

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  • IceAgeIceAge SomeWhere In ..Posts: 1,013Member Common
    Originally posted by Lethality
    Originally posted by IceAge
    Originally posted by QuicklyScott
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer

    I have done no research so I'm only repeating numebrs that have been thrown around here for years.

    If GW2, has currently sold 2M boxes, how many boxes has WoW sold?

    If 10M players bought the original game plus 3, now 4 expanisons, we are looking at not 10M boxes but multiples of 10M boxes.

    Like what 40M boxes over the years?

    It is estimated WoW sold between 60-80 million boxes.

    It's a VERY bad estimation. People from Asia does not buy boxes, you got that?

    Sure they do. 

    Pleadse read my previous reply and link proofs please, that Asian ( China and S. Korea )  players from i-caffe ( which are the majority ) are buying Boxes!

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  • NikkitaNikkita ParisPosts: 790Member
    Originally posted by itgrowls
    Originally posted by caetftl

    Unfortunately, because of the nature of b2p games, anet can sorta mask how many active users it has. 

    You mean like Blizzard did with D3 until someone discovered that they lost 60% of their players all at once? and then the community confronted Blizzard and they suddenly started working on making D3 content and fixes for the nonsensical combat situations. Interesting huh.

    Besides, that's not happening with GW2 considering the game is barely 2 weeks old. No issues there and they have just restarted selling digital copies :)

    If you say so i mean after all you are such a credible source of information.

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  • LethalityLethality Apopka, FLPosts: 61Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by IceAge
    Originally posted by Lethality
    Originally posted by IceAge
    Originally posted by QuicklyScott
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer

    I have done no research so I'm only repeating numebrs that have been thrown around here for years.

    If GW2, has currently sold 2M boxes, how many boxes has WoW sold?

    If 10M players bought the original game plus 3, now 4 expanisons, we are looking at not 10M boxes but multiples of 10M boxes.

    Like what 40M boxes over the years?

    It is estimated WoW sold between 60-80 million boxes.

    It's a VERY bad estimation. People from Asia does not buy boxes, you got that?

    Sure they do. 

    Pleadse read my previous reply and link proofs please, that Asian ( China and S. Korea )  players from i-caffe ( which are the majority ) are buying Boxes!

    It's not about the box, its about the license. That's what "box" means in the biz, YOU GOT THAT?

  • IceAgeIceAge SomeWhere In ..Posts: 1,013Member Common
    Originally posted by Nikkita
    Originally posted by itgrowls
    Originally posted by caetftl

    Unfortunately, because of the nature of b2p games, anet can sorta mask how many active users it has. 

    You mean like Blizzard did with D3 until someone discovered that they lost 60% of their players all at once? and then the community confronted Blizzard and they suddenly started working on making D3 content and fixes for the nonsensical combat situations. Interesting huh.

    Besides, that's not happening with GW2 considering the game is barely 2 weeks old. No issues there and they have just restarted selling digital copies :)

    If you say so i mean after all you are such a credible source of information.

    Oh...but you are, right?

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  • IceAgeIceAge SomeWhere In ..Posts: 1,013Member Common
    Originally posted by Lethality
    Originally posted by IceAge
    Originally posted by Lethality
    Originally posted by IceAge
    Originally posted by QuicklyScott
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer

    I have done no research so I'm only repeating numebrs that have been thrown around here for years.

    If GW2, has currently sold 2M boxes, how many boxes has WoW sold?

    If 10M players bought the original game plus 3, now 4 expanisons, we are looking at not 10M boxes but multiples of 10M boxes.

    Like what 40M boxes over the years?

    It is estimated WoW sold between 60-80 million boxes.

    It's a VERY bad estimation. People from Asia does not buy boxes, you got that?

    Sure they do. 

    Pleadse read my previous reply and link proofs please, that Asian ( China and S. Korea )  players from i-caffe ( which are the majority ) are buying Boxes!

    It's not about the box, its about the license. That's what "box" means in the biz, YOU GOT THAT?

    Oh, you are so full of you! Since when license is what "box" means in a biz heh? Care to .. elaborate a bit? And no , i DID NOT GOT THAT! You must be ...ah, can't tell bad thinks of you here :) But you definetly deserve a .. slap :)

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  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Stone Mountain, GAPosts: 13,672Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by caetftl
    Originally posted by QuicklyScott

    It is estimated WoW sold between 60-80 million boxes.

    WoW is estimated at around half of that.  To achieve those numbers they would have had to sell 15-20million boxes of the original, and then every expansion after that would have had to sell the exact same amount. 

    If the game, in its 8 or so years of existence, had perfect retention and absolutely no acquisition after the first year then you'd be right. It would also be the most extreme anomaly ever to happen in the sale of any service ever offered in the entire history of mankind... and, yes, that includes prostitution. 

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  • NikkitaNikkita ParisPosts: 790Member
    Originally posted by IceAge
    Originally posted by Nikkita
    Originally posted by itgrowls
    Originally posted by caetftl

    Unfortunately, because of the nature of b2p games, anet can sorta mask how many active users it has. 

    You mean like Blizzard did with D3 until someone discovered that they lost 60% of their players all at once? and then the community confronted Blizzard and they suddenly started working on making D3 content and fixes for the nonsensical combat situations. Interesting huh.

    Besides, that's not happening with GW2 considering the game is barely 2 weeks old. No issues there and they have just restarted selling digital copies :)

    If you say so i mean after all you are such a credible source of information.

    Oh...but you are, right?

    Did you see me making any asnine claims? i am pretty neutral when it comes to future prediction. 

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  • tank017tank017 Glendale, CAPosts: 2,192Member
    Originally posted by Four0Six
    Originally posted by kadepsyson
    Originally posted by fatboy21007
    Look out WoW,  some1 is gaining steam XD

    WoW has more subscribers than GW2 ever will

     They should since GW2 doesn't really have subscribers....

    I think in the end they will sell almost as many boxes as WoW has subs, especially if their expansions are good.

    it can go both ways..

     

    WoW has 9 million people WILLING to pay the monthly fee..

     

    The question is will people continue to buy and play GW2 long term as opposed to a couple months.

  • korent1991korent1991 CakovecPosts: 1,390Member
    Originally posted by kadepsyson
    Originally posted by fatboy21007
    Look out WoW,  some1 is gaining steam XD

    WoW has more subscribers than GW2 ever will

    1st of, gw2 doesn't have "subscribers"...

    2nd. that's a long time, even so gw2 showed in 2 weeks what it can manage. Perhaps it'll bypass wow in that "ever" time :D

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  • raven222raven222 athensPosts: 88Member

    Gz Anet

    I hope they do really well cause they deserve it for a job well done .

    So that future devs learn a lesson and stop feeding people crap .

     

  • BadaboomBadaboom Moose Jaw, SKPosts: 2,380Member
    Originally posted by korent1991
    Originally posted by kadepsyson
    Originally posted by fatboy21007
    Look out WoW,  some1 is gaining steam XD

    WoW has more subscribers than GW2 ever will

    1st of, gw2 doesn't have "subscribers"...

    2nd. that's a long time, even so gw2 showed in 2 weeks what it can manage. Perhaps it'll bypass wow in that "ever" time :D

    More like one week, since digital sales were halted a week.

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