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Feral Fanbois are hurting GW2 more than "Haters" ever could...

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  • NikkitaNikkita ParisPosts: 790Member
    Originally posted by Amjoco
    Originally posted by Nikkita
    Originally posted by BadSpock

    Fanboi or hater - which is truly more destructive?

    The hater. Why?

    Negativity is toxic, and will always bring out the worst in people.

    Sure, the fanboi may be ignorant, they may be "high" on hype, they may be misinformed or exxagerating through their rose-colored glasses...

    But who does positivity hurt? Who does their happiness and joy hurt?

    No one.

    Except the hater.

     

    Fanboi or hater - which is truly more destructive?

    The fanboi. Why?

    Obnoxious and condscending attitude is toxic, and will always bring out the worst in people.

    Sure, the haters may be ignorant, they may be "disgusted" by hype, they may be misinformed or exxagerating through their frustration and jaded outlok.

    But who does this 'you don't get it' and 'you are doing it wrong' attitude hurt? Who does their obnoxious attitude hurts?

    No one.

    Except the fanboi.

     

    It is all matter of prespective and which side of fence you are standing on. So before you call OP wrong i thought i would balance the scales here.

    It's a game.

    i think Badspock also needs to hear this as much as i do.

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  • WickedjellyWickedjelly Yahoo, COPosts: 4,990Member
    Originally posted by Fadedbomb

    The issue at hand currently though is that almost no form of "positive criticism" is accepted on these forums anymore. The moment you point out one flaw you get attacked as a "hater" and "troll".

    If I see a horrible flaw I'll say it outright and to the point what I feel that it is. I've even had people in the past claim I was claiming 100% facts when they were merely strong opinions based on experiences I've had with that specific topic.

    I almost don't see a point in posting on these forums anymore when ANY differing opinion is treated as an instant /ignore. It's almost depressing.

     They seem the same to me. I've been called a fanboy or hater pending on the topic at hand with mmos by those gems since...well I've been going to forums for mmos.

    1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

    2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

    3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  • NikkitaNikkita ParisPosts: 790Member
    Originally posted by colddog04
    Originally posted by Fadedbomb
    Originally posted by Wickedjelly
    Originally posted by BadSpock

    No, someone who is positive and giving constructive criticism is NOT a hater.

    It's so damned rare on MMORPG.com it's no surprise people have no idea what that looks like lol

    And of course over-zealous fans are still fans, but the "fanboi" moniker is a negative one for a reason - they are still generating hate with their combative attitudes.

    Hence why I said "if they fanbois are positive" but that means they aren't really "fanbois" they are just fans?

    Just arguing semantics at this point - which is pointless.

    But the jist of it is that positivity is never worse than negativity.

    So I guess in that sense the OP is kind of right, the "feral" fanboi who is negative is not worse than the hater, they are just as bad.

    But pointing that out and making a whole thread about it is a waste of time and does NOTHING but create further negativity and fan the flames, adding to the problem.

     I don't agree at all. I see plenty here that bring up valid points, issues, or debates.Just as I do on the positive spectrum. Many times they do simply get dismissed as haters. Are there there plenty just looking to get a rise as well? Of course...

    Still I see valid discussions being made all the time here about the positives and negatives. Simply have to wear some hip waders at times.

    But it is a message board so frankly should be expected.

    The issue at hand currently though is that almost no form of "positive criticism" is accepted on these forums anymore. The moment you point out one flaw you get attacked as a "hater" and "troll".

    Another issue is that almost no form of "positive praise" is accepted on these forums anymore. The moment you point out something that you like about the game, you get attacked for being a "fanboi" or being "feral."

    I don't remember when was the last time people praised GW2 without putting others down...i am actually looking for such a topic right now which was only limited to talking good about GW2 without being condscending and smug about it.

    If i find such a topic i will let you know.

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  • YamotaYamota LondonPosts: 6,620Member
    Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter

    Only people not interested in playing a game in the first place will care about fanboys or not.

    It is also extremely easy to avoid fanboys - just avoid forums.

    Like it is easy to avoid haters - just avoid forums.

    Normal players don't go to forums.

     

    And everything in software that ins't human input is scripted - it is the nature of the beast. Ascript can have more random variables or less random variables but still, unless there is a bug, the results are always predictable.

    Normal gamers dont go to forums? Yeah because it is so abnormal to go to an internet forum to discuss your hobby image

    Casual gamers might not go to a forum but that is not the same as normal.

    Regarding the OP, I agree. Fanatical fanboyism who does everything to attack people with criticism to the game is one of the worst thing for evolving not only the game but also the genre.

  • StanlyStankoStanlyStanko Stanksville, OHPosts: 269Member Common
    Feral. Good word.
  • FadedbombFadedbomb Aiken, SCPosts: 2,081Member
    Originally posted by Wickedjelly
    Originally posted by Fadedbomb

    The issue at hand currently though is that almost no form of "positive criticism" is accepted on these forums anymore. The moment you point out one flaw you get attacked as a "hater" and "troll".

    If I see a horrible flaw I'll say it outright and to the point what I feel that it is. I've even had people in the past claim I was claiming 100% facts when they were merely strong opinions based on experiences I've had with that specific topic.

    I almost don't see a point in posting on these forums anymore when ANY differing opinion is treated as an instant /ignore. It's almost depressing.

     They seem the same to me. I've been called a fanboy or hater pending on the topic at hand with mmos by those gems since...well I've been going to forums for mmos.

    My problem is that threads such as "Best Game Ever" that give no valid points or criticisms, and in general are horribly subjective get treated with little due thought. These are what is called a "Fanatic's" thread.

    Then you get arogent children who make threads like "Worse game i've ever played" that are equally as bad but on the opposite end of the spectrum. These are called "Hater" threads.

     

    These two types of threads NEED to be shutdown and called out for what they really are as they are toxic. However, my problem is when someone makes a valid, drawn-out, criticism, and is then labeled a "Hater" or "Troll" only to be agreed with months later (has happend to me more times than I can recount now).

    It's getting old.

    The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
    Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.

  • AmjocoAmjoco Layton, UTPosts: 4,774Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Nikkita
    Originally posted by Amjoco
    Originally posted by Nikkita
    Originally posted by BadSpock

    Fanboi or hater - which is truly more destructive?

    The hater. Why?

    Negativity is toxic, and will always bring out the worst in people.

    Sure, the fanboi may be ignorant, they may be "high" on hype, they may be misinformed or exxagerating through their rose-colored glasses...

    But who does positivity hurt? Who does their happiness and joy hurt?

    No one.

    Except the hater.

     

    Fanboi or hater - which is truly more destructive?

    The fanboi. Why?

    Obnoxious and condscending attitude is toxic, and will always bring out the worst in people.

    Sure, the haters may be ignorant, they may be "disgusted" by hype, they may be misinformed or exxagerating through their frustration and jaded outlok.

    But who does this 'you don't get it' and 'you are doing it wrong' attitude hurt? Who does their obnoxious attitude hurts?

    No one.

    Except the fanboi.

     

    It is all matter of prespective and which side of fence you are standing on. So before you call OP wrong i thought i would balance the scales here.

    It's a game.

    i think Badspock also needs to hear this as much as i do.

    I think we all do. ;)

    Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  • SteeJanzSteeJanz Gladstone, MOPosts: 330Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Nikkita
    Originally posted by SteeJanz
    Originally posted by Nikkita
    Originally posted by BadSpock
    Originally posted by Nikkita
    Originally posted by BadSpock

     

    Huh? haters can only be negative? what if a so called hater is giving a genuine criticism? i would say that is positive for the game. You are still failing to see both sides of the coin and focusing only one side.

    Both haters and fans are capable of being positive and negative. 

    And be my guest to tell these people who keep telling others how to enjoy the game or make topics like 'GW2 is overwhelming success so people who dislike it are just mad or jealous with its success ' that they are not fans. Would be interesting to see what they have to say about it.

    I really mean this in the nicest way but your reply is ignorant.  In your attempt to argue with BadSpock you are missing his point.  A Hater will not give a genuine criticism.   Haters are not capable of being positive, just like a Fanboy will not be able to recognize a genuine criticism in which BadSpock has pointed out. 

    Of course all of this is "IMO", which make anything I say ok. 

    A hater is not a hater just because he gives a negative criticism the label comes after wards. But before calling me ignorant i would like to ask you in nicest way possible what the hell you have been doing on these forums if you didn't even notice a simple thing that often anyone who gives valid criticism is simple dismissed as a hater or a troll?.

    Well maybe I have rose colored glasses but I don't see everyone one that posts criticism as hater and I refuse to let other posters decide for me who is or who is not a hater.   The oversimplicification of labeling that you are doing is your problem not mine.  IMO, a hater is not someone that critizes a game.  A hater would be someone that misinforms others about the game or constantly makes threads bashing a particular game, or constantly posts negative comments in positive threads, etc...  It's a body of work type of thing instead of they posted this once type of thing. 

    If you want to label everyone that has a positive thing to say about a game as a Fanboy and anyone that makes a negative comment about a game a hater, then go ahead.  Whatever honks your hooter.  However, I refuse to agree with you. 

    I

  • BadSpockBadSpock Somewhere, MIPosts: 7,974Member
    Originally posted by colddog04
    Originally posted by Fadedbomb

    The issue at hand currently though is that almost no form of "positive criticism" is accepted on these forums anymore. The moment you point out one flaw you get attacked as a "hater" and "troll".

    Another issue is that almost no form of "positive praise" is accepted on these forums anymore. The moment you point out something that you like about the game, you get attacked for being a "fanboi" or being "feral."

    I haven't seen truly constructive / positive criticism on this site in a long, long time. It is one of "the" hardest things to do especially in the medium of text-only communication. It's no suprise it is so damned rare on MMORPG.com.

    Even the people who THINK they are being constructive and not negative (sorry like you Faded) generally still come off as arrogant, negative, and combative simple by the fact that is how their text reads to many (even if it is completely unintentional.)

    Colddog04 is 100% correct as well - the door swings both ways.

     

  • truthhurtstruthhurts RICHMOND, VAPosts: 74Member
    Originally posted by Fadedbomb

    To be fair, I'm more worried about the overall opinion of the GW2 community 

    no you arent, you are more worried about spreading your light blue text around, creating a commotion, and causing long threads like this.

  • pmilespmiles Federal Way, WAPosts: 383Member

    Only a fool would look at this site and suggest that it's anything more than a bulletin board of advertising.   Just look all over it... buy this, try this, new this, revamped that... they are here soley to make a penny or two off of each and every one of you posting here.  Doesn't really matter what you say here... they're getting paid either way.  THAT'S ALL THIS SITE IS FOR.

  • FadedbombFadedbomb Aiken, SCPosts: 2,081Member
    Originally posted by StanlyStanko
    Feral. Good word.

    I got tired of using Fanboy, and figured i'd attract more fire. Unfortunately I still used it in my OP. The word urks me to use, but I can't seem to escape it :(.

    The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
    Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.

  • BadSpockBadSpock Somewhere, MIPosts: 7,974Member
    Originally posted by Amjoco
    Originally posted by Nikkita
    Originally posted by Amjoco

    It's a game.

    i think Badspock also needs to hear this as much as i do.

    I think we all do. ;)

    The forums are the most epic game of all.

    Sometimes when we think it's "obvious" people are IRL emotionally effected by forum conversations, they are not.

    Gaming is a passionate subject for many, and "in some ways emotion runs deeper in the Vulcan race than in the humans."

  • BadSpockBadSpock Somewhere, MIPosts: 7,974Member
    Originally posted by truthhurts
    Originally posted by Fadedbomb

    To be fair, I'm more worried about the overall opinion of the GW2 community 

    no you arent, you are more worried about spreading your light blue text around, creating a commotion, and causing long threads like this.

    The duty of a "Spotlight Poster" apparently.

     

  • ThorbrandThorbrand West Palm Beach, FLPosts: 1,198Member

    What is the purpose of this post?

    Yes OP there are no dynamic events in GW2. Only one game ever had them or ever will have them. Not made in the last 10yrs either.

  • truthhurtstruthhurts RICHMOND, VAPosts: 74Member
    Originally posted by BadSpock
    Originally posted by colddog04
    Originally posted by Fadedbomb

    The issue at hand currently though is that almost no form of "positive criticism" is accepted on these forums anymore. The moment you point out one flaw you get attacked as a "hater" and "troll".

    Another issue is that almost no form of "positive praise" is accepted on these forums anymore. The moment you point out something that you like about the game, you get attacked for being a "fanboi" or being "feral."

    I haven't seen truly constructive / positive criticism on this site in a long, long time. It is one of "the" hardest things to do especially in the medium of text-only communication. It's no suprise it is so damned rare on MMORPG.com.

    Even the people who THINK they are being constructive and not negative (sorry like you Faded) generally still come off as arrogant, negative, and combative simple by the fact that is how their text reads to many (even if it is completely unintentional.)

    Colddog04 is 100% correct as well - the door swings both ways.

     

    There was a thread last week where somone published a list of 11 things they disliked about GW2.  It had almost unanimous support.  And of course since the discussion was positive, the thread died rather quickly.

  • FadedbombFadedbomb Aiken, SCPosts: 2,081Member
    Originally posted by Yamota
    Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter

    Only people not interested in playing a game in the first place will care about fanboys or not.

    It is also extremely easy to avoid fanboys - just avoid forums.

    Like it is easy to avoid haters - just avoid forums.

    Normal players don't go to forums.

     

    And everything in software that ins't human input is scripted - it is the nature of the beast. Ascript can have more random variables or less random variables but still, unless there is a bug, the results are always predictable.

    Normal gamers dont go to forums? Yeah because it is so abnormal to go to an internet forum to discuss your hobby image

    Casual gamers might not go to a forum but that is not the same as normal.

    Regarding the OP, I agree. Fanatical fanboyism who does everything to attack people with criticism to the game is one of the worst thing for evolving not only the game but also the genre.

    I just don't understand how people can blatantly claim that forums don't affect a product. From my 12years of experience they most certainly can affect the overall "Morale" of a game, and can help to destabilize the product from the bottom up.

    Additionally, the idea that only "Hardcore" players come on here is rediculous.

     

    Also, Gaia_Hunter isn't a programmer or he'd know that scripts =/= dynamically generating programs.

    The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
    Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.

  • CaptainSoapCaptainSoap somewhere, NCPosts: 138Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Fadedbomb

    I don't know where these Feral Fanbois are coming from as I never had to deal with them this badly for even SWTOR. Quite frankly, I've been surprised to see all over these forums about how people are annoyed if not almost completely turned off by the rabid flaming of anything non-GW2, and how GW2 is being pushed to new heights of outlandish fanboism. It is REALLY pissing off normal GW2 fans, because when you rabidly fanboy all over GW2 you make the normal players whom are just trying to enjoy the game look bad, or at least that's how i've been reading they feel?

    Now, I'll say this to put it out there. I'm not a "Fan" of GW2, but I did purchase it for $60, and do believe it is one of the best themeparks I've played. However, I know what GW2 is, and is not. So I won't go any further with it than that.

     

    From my experience with previously overhyped titles I've had to deal with people calling me a "Hater" and an outright "Troll" because I said things like SWTOR being horribly linear, zero replayability, sub-par end-game, and a host of other straight-to-the-point statements. Ironically months later I see everything I was saying pre-release echoed throughout these forums.

     

    Then, for GW2, I was flamed outright for calling "Dynamic Events" NOT "Dynamic" and more akin to static repeated branching SCRIPTED events. Not only was I flamed, but I experienced something I hadn't before with SWTOR. I was actually being contacted off this site by my personal email being asked to stop "Spouting nonsense you have no clue about" with regards to GW2 (I didn't even know my personal email was listed under my profile on here?).

     

    Regardless, albeit longer than I originally wanted, my point is that you NEED to stop going crazy with this over-the-top fanboism. You're making the normal players who're just trying to enjoy GW2 for what it is, and you're hurting GW2 as a whole in the long term.

     

    Please :(

     

    lol what kind of world do you live in? perception is reality man. you worry about shit that shouldn't concern you. perhaps you might be happier with everything if you'd just concern yourself with shit that actually matters instead of what other people are saying. 

  • KrytycalKrytycal Miami, FLPosts: 520Member

    Blind adoration is just as destructive as blind negativity.

     

    They are parts of a vicious cycle that feed and set each other off. The funny thing is, you can't have one without the other. Newtons Third Law of Motion, etc. Many around here may think I'm a hater, the truth is I don't particularly hate GW2, matter of fact I think it's a very good game. I wouldn't even be posting in this board if it weren't for the fact that everytime I check the frontpage there's is some GW2 thread full of exaggerated claims and sensationalism about how GW2 is killing this, or revolutionizing that. A subcouncious part of me wants to balance out those claims.

     

     

  • FadedbombFadedbomb Aiken, SCPosts: 2,081Member
    Originally posted by Soaapy
    Originally posted by Fadedbomb

    I don't know where these Feral Fanbois are coming from as I never had to deal with them this badly for even SWTOR. Quite frankly, I've been surprised to see all over these forums about how people are annoyed if not almost completely turned off by the rabid flaming of anything non-GW2, and how GW2 is being pushed to new heights of outlandish fanboism. It is REALLY pissing off normal GW2 fans, because when you rabidly fanboy all over GW2 you make the normal players whom are just trying to enjoy the game look bad, or at least that's how i've been reading they feel?

    Now, I'll say this to put it out there. I'm not a "Fan" of GW2, but I did purchase it for $60, and do believe it is one of the best themeparks I've played. However, I know what GW2 is, and is not. So I won't go any further with it than that.

     

    From my experience with previously overhyped titles I've had to deal with people calling me a "Hater" and an outright "Troll" because I said things like SWTOR being horribly linear, zero replayability, sub-par end-game, and a host of other straight-to-the-point statements. Ironically months later I see everything I was saying pre-release echoed throughout these forums.

     

    Then, for GW2, I was flamed outright for calling "Dynamic Events" NOT "Dynamic" and more akin to static repeated branching SCRIPTED events. Not only was I flamed, but I experienced something I hadn't before with SWTOR. I was actually being contacted off this site by my personal email being asked to stop "Spouting nonsense you have no clue about" with regards to GW2 (I didn't even know my personal email was listed under my profile on here?).

     

    Regardless, albeit longer than I originally wanted, my point is that you NEED to stop going crazy with this over-the-top fanboism. You're making the normal players who're just trying to enjoy GW2 for what it is, and you're hurting GW2 as a whole in the long term.

     

    Please :(

     

    lol what kind of world do you live in? perception is reality man. you worry about shit that shouldn't concern you. perhaps you might be happier with everything if you'd just concern yourself with shit that actually matters instead of what other people are saying. 

    It affects other games, and other posts more than you realize maybe? This matters as ignoring the issue only gets worse over time.

    Please explain how it doesn't matter?

    The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
    Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.

  • NikkitaNikkita ParisPosts: 790Member
    Originally posted by SteeJanz
    Originally posted by Nikkita
    Originally posted by SteeJanz
    Originally posted by Nikkita
    Originally posted by BadSpock
    Originally posted by Nikkita
    Originally posted by BadSpock

     

    Huh? haters can only be negative? what if a so called hater is giving a genuine criticism? i would say that is positive for the game. You are still failing to see both sides of the coin and focusing only one side.

    Both haters and fans are capable of being positive and negative. 

    And be my guest to tell these people who keep telling others how to enjoy the game or make topics like 'GW2 is overwhelming success so people who dislike it are just mad or jealous with its success ' that they are not fans. Would be interesting to see what they have to say about it.

    I really mean this in the nicest way but your reply is ignorant.  In your attempt to argue with BadSpock you are missing his point.  A Hater will not give a genuine criticism.   Haters are not capable of being positive, just like a Fanboy will not be able to recognize a genuine criticism in which BadSpock has pointed out. 

    Of course all of this is "IMO", which make anything I say ok. 

    A hater is not a hater just because he gives a negative criticism the label comes after wards. But before calling me ignorant i would like to ask you in nicest way possible what the hell you have been doing on these forums if you didn't even notice a simple thing that often anyone who gives valid criticism is simple dismissed as a hater or a troll?.

    Well maybe I have rose colored glasses but I don't see everyone one that posts criticism as hater and I refuse to let other posters decide for me who is or who is not a hater.   The oversimplicification of labeling that you are doing is your problem not mine.  IMO, a hater is not someone that critizes a game.  A hater would be someone that misinforms others about the game or constantly makes threads bashing a particular game, or constantly posts negative comments in positive threads, etc...  It's a body of work type of thing instead of they posted this once type of thing. 

    If you want to label everyone that has a positive thing to say about a game as a Fanboy and anyone that makes a negative comment about a game a hater, then go ahead.  Whatever honks your hooter.  However, I refuse to agree with you. 

    I

    /faceplam

    This is what happens when you jump into conversation with blinders on. if anything i am against labels and was playing devils advocate with Badspock and trying to balance things out since both sides are at fault.

     

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  • BadSpockBadSpock Somewhere, MIPosts: 7,974Member
    Originally posted by Fadedbomb

    I don't know where these Feral Fanbois are coming from as I never had to deal with them this badly for even SWTOR. Quite frankly, I've been surprised to see all over these forums about how people are annoyed if not almost completely turned off by the rabid flaming of anything non-GW2, and how GW2 is being pushed to new heights of outlandish fanboism. It is REALLY pissing off normal GW2 fans, because when you rabidly fanboy all over GW2 you make the normal players whom are just trying to enjoy the game look bad, or at least that's how i've been reading they feel?

    Now, I'll say this to put it out there. I'm not a "Fan" of GW2, but I did purchase it for $60, and do believe it is one of the best themeparks I've played. However, I know what GW2 is, and is not. So I won't go any further with it than that.

    From my experience with previously overhyped titles I've had to deal with people calling me a "Hater" and an outright "Troll" because I said things like SWTOR being horribly linear, zero replayability, sub-par end-game, and a host of other straight-to-the-point statements. Ironically months later I see everything I was saying pre-release echoed throughout these forums.

    Then, for GW2, I was flamed outright for calling "Dynamic Events" NOT "Dynamic" and more akin to static repeated branching SCRIPTED events. Not only was I flamed, but I experienced something I hadn't before with SWTOR. I was actually being contacted off this site by my personal email being asked to stop "Spouting nonsense you have no clue about" with regards to GW2 (I didn't even know my personal email was listed under my profile on here?).

    Regardless, albeit longer than I originally wanted, my point is that you NEED to stop going crazy with this over-the-top fanboism. You're making the normal players who're just trying to enjoy GW2 for what it is, and you're hurting GW2 as a whole in the long term.

    Please :(

    Just an example of all the negative, combative, and blatantly troll-bait word usage and message behind your post(s) Faded.

    You really need a reality check if you think posts like this are examples of your "straight-to-the-point statements" and objectivity.

    It is ironic that your post asking posters to stop fanning the flames is, in itself, simply fanning the flames due to your arrogant assertions and baiting.

  • BadSpockBadSpock Somewhere, MIPosts: 7,974Member
    Originally posted by truthhurts
    Originally posted by BadSpock

    I haven't seen truly constructive / positive criticism on this site in a long, long time. It is one of "the" hardest things to do especially in the medium of text-only communication. It's no suprise it is so damned rare on MMORPG.com.

    There was a thread last week where somone published a list of 11 things they disliked about GW2.  It had almost unanimous support.  And of course since the discussion was positive, the thread died rather quickly.

    Wish I would have seen that, I'm going to try and find it now thanks for the heads up!

  • FadedbombFadedbomb Aiken, SCPosts: 2,081Member
    Originally posted by Krytycal

    Blind adoration is just as destructive as blind negativity.

     

    They are parts of a vicious cycle that feed and set each other off. The funny thing is, you can't have one without the other. Newtons Third Law of Motion, etc. Many around here may think I'm a hater, the truth is I don't particularly hate GW2, matter of fact I think it's a very good game. I wouldn't even be posting in this board if it weren't for the fact that everytime I check the frontpage there's is some GW2 thread full of exaggerated claims and sensationalism about how GW2 is killing this, or revolutionizing that. A subcouncious part of me wants to balance out those claims.

     

     

    Ironically people turn a blind eye to those threads, and then claim that "negativity" is filling these forums up and choking off intelligent discussion.

    We have no issue with "positive" threads so long as you aren't outright exaggerating the truth, or putting others down, and that is our primary issue currently is that people are either making wholefully exaggerating insulting threads or making the exact opposite.

    The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
    Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.

  • MeleagarMeleagar Nunyadambidness, TXPosts: 407Member

    I don't see how it's productive to call people fanbois or haters, unless it's just to rile people up. If you have a point about the game to make, make it. 

    Mostly what I see happening when it comes to so-called "criticism" and avid, immediate fan reaction is when posters want to add things to the game, or change things, that would basically change the philosophy or structure of the game (even when they don't realize it, and think they are asking fro something simple or inclusive of other playstyles), and then all hellfire is rained down upon them.

    If I wasn't playing the game so much, I'd join in that hellfire, because I want ANET to know in no uncertain terms that no, we do not want them adding/changing things that would reformulate the entire philosophy/structure of the game.

    If you can't stand the hellfire, get out of the kitchen. I'm a fanboy that will rabidly defend the structural and philosophical integrity of GW2. I've waited too long for this game to let a vocal minority try to change it into the samo samo.

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