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POLL-How long before Blizzard copies GW2 questing design?

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  • FoomerangFoomerang Portland, ORPosts: 5,564Member Uncommon

    GW2 DOESNT HAVE QUESTS!!!!!!!!

    Oops, sorry. I thought it was 2011 for a second, heh.

  • FurrballsFurrballs CudgenPosts: 30Member
    I actually like quest hubs, for what thats worth, the titan project still looks like vaporware at this point, i cant believe its possible to keep anything so secret these days ???
  • xpiherxpiher Indianapolis, INPosts: 3,311Member
    Originally posted by smh_alot
    Originally posted by xpiher

    Never because a lot of people are actually complaining about not having quest hubs. So billzard will keep them to keep that market share.

    I saw someone mention TSW as innovative... not really. Adding in Mist style puzzles and making your game more like a single player RPG doesn't innovate. 

     

    It's all very subjective, I think. To you, TSW isn't really innovative, to others GW2 isn't really innovative, again others think both have innovative elements (me) and other others think both aren't really innovative. It's all relative, the man Einstein alrdy said it.

    Both games don't really innovate in terms of questing design. GW2 has the potential to make their system more dynamic though with a few tweaks since each DE and zone has 1-3 paths the quests chains can go. The problem is, they aren't hard enuogh to force players into the "failed zone" or the "we lost the battle but won the war" chain. ANET should force losses IMO to show people how dynamic the event actually can be. 

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  • krakra70krakra70 karakas, IDPosts: 122Member
    Hopefully never.
  • BrizlynBrizlyn Ladera Ranch, CAPosts: 70Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Misaris

    Blizzard will teach the industry what *real* innovation means. With Titan I´m pretty sure they come up with more than yellow circles and a "dynamic" quest log.

    No need to copy anything from GW2 (please, no cow feeding Blizzard.. please).

    Further *real* innovation, look at World of Darkness and TSW

    Like Blizzard showed us such amazing innovation after 7 years of development on Diablo 3.

    I hope Titan is great but not holding my breath expecting it to be.

  • latinkurolatinkuro ToulousePosts: 121Member
    Originally posted by Misaris

    Blizzard will teach the industry what *real* innovation means. With Titan I´m pretty sure they come up with more than yellow circles and a "dynamic" quest log.

    No need to copy anything from GW2 (please, no cow feeding Blizzard.. please).

    Further *real* innovation, look at World of Darkness and TSW

    TSW skill wheel is just arenanet's own GW1 skill system copied to death and a wheel added to it yet you call that game innovative.

  • hikaru77hikaru77 buenos airesPosts: 1,035Member Uncommon
    GW2 already have quest hubs but is called ¨heart hub¨. Cant wait for MoP, i hate WoW with all my heart,but i cant wait to see how MoP will take more than a Half of the GW2 active population.
  • TheHavokTheHavok San Jose, CAPosts: 2,398Member Uncommon

    I don't prefer one game's questing to another.  GW2 questing system is already similar to WoW's so I doubt WoW would copy much.

  • SlyLoKSlyLoK Sugar Grove, VAPosts: 1,544Member Uncommon
    I would rather have something like the Rifts ( or WAR ) in..uhh.. Rift but better and on top of a quest hub system. Not really feeling the whole heart thing in GW2.

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  • CoatedCoated Woodside, CAPosts: 339Member Uncommon

    I'm confused why they would copy it in the first place. It's not new, it's not fun (to a certain degree) and it becomes repetative and boring. I don't get these dynamic events at all. I view it just like SWTOR quests. I would rather have them spend the 100 million they wasted on interactive questing and put it somewhere useful. Like endgame, armor design's, player housing, crafting, PvP, balancing, spells, etc. I think MMORPG's are going the wrong direction. The RPG part comes from the MMO part. The money does not need to be wasted on quests. If I wanted to sit there and solo quests all day long, I would play RPG's!

    I hope Titan doesn't do anything remotely similar to GW2.

  • tank017tank017 Glendale, CAPosts: 2,192Member

    lol, OP you act as if the ball is in Anets court...

     

    GW2 hasnt even been out a month,who's to say the game wont be a ghost town 2 months from now?

     

    Blizzard may use some ideas from Anet,just like any other company would..

     

    its common practice.

  • PsychowPsychow SF Giants Territory, CAPosts: 1,784Member

    I went out on a limb and guessed "never"

     

    But I could be wrong. Maybe there will be some form of "Dynamic Events' in the future. But it won't replace questing. It will just be additional content. That might make it even more fun, if you think about it. Scrap all those escort/ filler DE's and keep the fun/exciting ones.

  • besteverbestever prescott, AZPosts: 732Member
    Originally posted by Misaris

    Blizzard will teach the industry what *real* innovation means. With Titan I´m pretty sure they come up with more than yellow circles and a "dynamic" quest log.

    No need to copy anything from GW2 (please, no cow feeding Blizzard.. please).

    Further *real* innovation, look at World of Darkness and TSW

    LOL thats right they will copy someone else's idea right. World of darkness does look cool will see how that turns out and TSW is about the same as GW2 with a diffrent setting. We can't really say about titan because its already being made but I'm sure will see plenty of what we've seen before. Really what else can they do to make mmo's different or any game for that matter. Its all the same just in a different way. So find a game thats fun and enjoy it. 

  • besteverbestever prescott, AZPosts: 732Member
    Originally posted by hikaru77
    GW2 already have quest hubs but is called ¨heart hub¨. Cant wait for MoP, i hate WoW with all my heart,but i cant wait to see how MoP will take more than a Half of the GW2 active population.

    LOL now thats a joke and maybe for a day till they relize combat sucks in wow. Heart hubs gotta love it. Guess what you don't have to do those lol.

  • besteverbestever prescott, AZPosts: 732Member
    Originally posted by TheHavok

    I don't prefer one game's questing to another.  GW2 questing system is already similar to WoW's so I doubt WoW would copy much.

    LOL How. Man you guys talk a lot of trash but can back it. Guess what I can avoid all those heart quest, the only reason I do them is to finish the zone for achievements. So many ways to level in GW2 its sad when you guys try to say dumb shit like this.

  • TeknoBugTeknoBug Calgary, ABPosts: 2,156Member

    LOL you actually think people are going for Pandaria? Majority of people I know that plays WoW thinks the Panda thing is a silly idea.


    I honestly like GW2's quest system, no running back and forth, just stumble upon a heart and complete the quest and move on (or talk to the heart if you want karma items). I've done most of my leveling by exploring, I didn't sit in a single spot and farm for very long unless I was close to the next level.

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  • AusareAusare adamstown, MDPosts: 850Member
    Not sure about the people you know. The ones in game i know want their panda brewmasters. Anyone that was a wc iii fan wants their brewmaster.
  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer ChairPosts: 5,586Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Misaris

    Now "quest hubs" are the new thing to hate? LOL.

    What is bad about freakin´ quest hubs?

    Shouldn´t be bad questing the problem in 2012?

    I´d rather have interesting quests instead, I don´t care how I get cookie cutter kill/collect X zerg quests into my log, this is complete and utter unnecessary fluff.

     

    Because one day, someone at ArenaNet said "Quest Hubs are bad!

    And millions of people said "Ahhhhhhhhhhhh, Ohh Yeeahh!"

    Quest hubs ARE bad

  • Requiem1066Requiem1066 londonPosts: 274Member

    Quest hub or no quest hub it doesn't really matter .. It's all about the content and make up of said quest .. Give people something fun and interesting to do and most will not care on the delivery system .

    The boring old tat is always going to be boring old tat no matter how it's dressed up

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  • GhavriggGhavrigg Halifax, NSPosts: 771Member Uncommon

    The game is too old and the quest design is too deeply embedded into the system mechanics that they'd probably have to do a complete overhaul of the game.

    Now people sharing xp for killing stuff without grouping, finding a way of knowing when multiple people in an area have the same quest and can kill the same enemies for the items, or to rack up the numbers of needed kills on a quest without grouping, that might be a reasonable design goal.

    I may be wrong, however.

  • Kuro1nKuro1n GothenburgPosts: 771Member

    Imo quest hubs arent bad, QUESTS ARE BAD. Yes you heard me, I think quests are bad these days because they are all grab 10 rat tails, kill 40 of that, gather this do that. I'd rather have quests which are hard and not marked on your map or given to you by a npc who could easily have went and done it by himself.

    Actually no quests is the better option, sandbox style plz. Make your own quests.

  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Den HelderPosts: 9,064Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by QuicklyScott
    Originally posted by Deathenger
    Originally posted by QuicklyScott
    oh god, I hope never.  The questing is the worst part of GW2 :/

    Care to explain?

    Sure.  Bare in mind this is coming from someone who only got to around level 13 in the beta.

     

    The heart quests were the most boring repetitve MMO quests just with a bar instead of numbers. 

     

    I didn't like the DEs because you're forced to play at a certain tempo to complete them, they were just escort, kill, bleh; they were just big zergs that I really didnt enjoy.

    Nice one... you make a big statement, and when yopu are asked to defend it, you start with an excuse...

    Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  • QuesaQuesa Sacramento, CAPosts: 1,246Member
    Originally posted by Grimlock426
    Count me as someone who actually thinks WoW's quests by and large are more fun then the GW2 DE's and hearts.  Sure back in vanilla WoW it was all collect this and kill that quests, but they've evolved quite a bit since then to where there are many pretty cool and unique quests in WoW.  Many more than what I've seen so far in GW2.

    Absolutely.  The quests were designed better, had better humour and alot of them were varried in the way you do or resolve the quest.  GW2 quests are just like any other MMO.

    Alot of the they are so cool hype they are getting is because it's hidden behind a heart instead of an exclamation point - as well as you not having to talk to anyone to get/complete the quest.

  • QuesaQuesa Sacramento, CAPosts: 1,246Member
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
    Originally posted by QuicklyScott
    Originally posted by Deathenger
    Originally posted by QuicklyScott
    oh god, I hope never.  The questing is the worst part of GW2 :/

    Care to explain?

    Sure.  Bare in mind this is coming from someone who only got to around level 13 in the beta.

     

    The heart quests were the most boring repetitve MMO quests just with a bar instead of numbers. 

     

    I didn't like the DEs because you're forced to play at a certain tempo to complete them, they were just escort, kill, bleh; they were just big zergs that I really didnt enjoy.

    Nice one... you make a big statement, and when yopu are asked to defend it, you start with an excuse...

    It's not an excuse, he's framing the setting for his opinion.

  • QuicklyScottQuicklyScott BristolPosts: 433Member
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
    Originally posted by QuicklyScott
    Originally posted by Deathenger
    Originally posted by QuicklyScott
    oh god, I hope never.  The questing is the worst part of GW2 :/

    Care to explain?

    Sure.  Bare in mind this is coming from someone who only got to around level 13 in the beta.

     

    The heart quests were the most boring repetitve MMO quests just with a bar instead of numbers. 

     

    I didn't like the DEs because you're forced to play at a certain tempo to complete them, they were just escort, kill, bleh; they were just big zergs that I really didnt enjoy.

    Nice one... you make a big statement, and when yopu are asked to defend it, you start with an excuse...

    Then finish with my explanation, where's the problem?  Also it wasn't an excuse... just a footnote.

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