I liked Rift at first, but as I leveled up and seen how the skills work off each other, use this skill and now this skill is 30% better now that it landed and now I can cast this skill 8 times on the mob so people can heal better and attack better, I am not a fan of skill systems like that.
I have to agree, this is the only MMO I'd consider going back to. I regularly do consider going back to it. but.. I just hate the soul system. It would have been the best character creation/development system in the genre, if you picked your three souls at the beginning and were locked into it. You could respec, but only within those three souls.
The way it is though, I felt like my characters had no identity, and that's a gamebreaker for me.
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
Finally, a dev that gets it. First expansion out the gate adds player housing and triples the land mass. Trion is making all the right decisions with this game and I gotta give them props.
the world expansion is exclusively for levels 50+
when RIFT launched, I felt the PVE content was lacking/redundant for leveling more than 1 character
Got to agree TRION is doing a great job with RIFT.
I had great time playing Rift,i loved classes beeing so flexible & specially enjoyed my Chloromancer^^
I somehow expected RIFT to become more dinamic than it actually is...I believe game is designed to be,but they encountered technical problems & had to step back...
I remember their first World Event with massive battles across the map...they were good in the idea but didn´t turn out how they expected & had to disable it....
Events after that has become more & more encorseted but still loads of fun & godies like mounts etc
I believe TRION will follow some GW2 ideas in Rift. They are already testing in beta realms some kind of PvP similar to GW2´s where you get leveled up to max level... only problem i see with that is that RIFT is too gear centered...don´t know how they will make that work...
Still very refreshing to see TRION trying all those different changes without fear... and delivering alternatives ways to play & level outside raiding (can´t stand raiding...it´s so 2011...........)
I do believe RIFT will become better & better with time. It already is.
I´ll be buying Storm Legion btw ,it´s a massive update that triples the size of the actual game. I´ll have to find some time out of GW2 but i guess i´ll be able in a couple of months^^
Developers must be supported when doing things right.
I love gaming you know, i support companies so i can keep on playing video games.
I thought it was an ok game, but it wasn't for me long-term. Maybe if I'd discovered it a little earlier than I did... it certainly lasted longer for me than either Tera or TWS though.
Can t agree more. It has so much to do at end game, and the leveling is quite enjoyable now. The new x pac is easily the best x pac any game has released IMO. I can t say enough good things about Trion.
I don'[t play Rift anymore but if they treat Defiance like they have treated Rift then I will have found my new P2P MMO.
There is NO miracle patch.
95% of what you see in beta won't change by launch.
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Originally posted by Krytycal Not to mention their next project, Defiance, is looking good too.
with firefall and planetside 2 coming this game has no chance.
but i admit for a newbie company they did good with rift and are probably the fastest company out there making content
if they keep up like this their next mmorpg will be bomb
I've played both extensively. PS2 is the superior game from a mechanic/FPS standpoint, but it comes with a big downside: no PvE. While Firefall comes with PvE, the gameplay/hit detection/performance is not very good right now. It's not a bad game per se, especially not considering Red 5 is a very small studio, but it's never going to be a big hit. It's going to be a niche game like Global Agenda.
If Trion does the same with Defiance as they did with Rift, I can see it being the first successful AAA MMOFPS with both PvE and PvP.
Since there are no official numbers for Rift subscribers, I do not know what you base your surprising assumption on...
However, I tried Rift couple times and just could not get in. The only game I know of that has worse character animations is LOTRO and then Rift provides utter generic game play.
Originally posted by Krytycal Not to mention their next project, Defiance, is looking good too.
with firefall and planetside 2 coming this game has no chance.
but i admit for a newbie company they did good with rift and are probably the fastest company out there making content
if they keep up like this their next mmorpg will be bomb
Doubtful. Defiance looks good (but many games have). But if it plays well, and is updated in the same fashion Rifts is, it will do well.
Firefall has some good points, but their PvE milestone is months away (at least two, three or four is possible). Then they need to work the bugs out of it. So, thats another few months. Just for the next mile stone. So, we really aren't going to see the full game until well into 2013.
Planetside 2, is strictly PvP. So its not even targeting the same audience as Firefall and Defiance are. Not to mention it is SOE ...
I'm looking forwards to Defiance, but we will have to see how it plays.
Originally posted by kostoslav Worst WoW clone ever created. If there was ever a game created only for money it is rift. It is, as I wrote many tomes here, soulless and plastic. Awful, unmaginative, badly written lore, terrible, boring quests. Unimaginative races and ugly character creator. I can always find at least one good thing in any game but not in Rift. U can feel more developer love in EA sports games.
Originally posted by Foomerang Originally posted by kostoslav Worst WoW clone ever created. If there was ever a game created only for money it is rift. It is, as I wrote many tomes here, soulless and plastic. Awful, unmaginative, badly written lore, terrible, boring quests. Unimaginative races and ugly character creator. I can always find at least one good thing in any game but not in Rift. U can feel more developer love in EA sports games.
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This thread isn't about how cheap you are, it is about how Rift is developing.
I am so good, I backstabbed your face!
I have to agree, this is the only MMO I'd consider going back to. I regularly do consider going back to it. but.. I just hate the soul system. It would have been the best character creation/development system in the genre, if you picked your three souls at the beginning and were locked into it. You could respec, but only within those three souls.
The way it is though, I felt like my characters had no identity, and that's a gamebreaker for me.
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
the world expansion is exclusively for levels 50+
when RIFT launched, I felt the PVE content was lacking/redundant for leveling more than 1 character
the game needs more than 2 starting areas
EQ2 fan sites
But I didn't like the pvp at all, far too much reliance on macro spamming and gear grind and I don't like the mercenary thing either.
To me its just wow but a bit more grown up and less on the rails with the rifts and exploring elements
Got to agree TRION is doing a great job with RIFT.
I had great time playing Rift,i loved classes beeing so flexible & specially enjoyed my Chloromancer^^
I somehow expected RIFT to become more dinamic than it actually is...I believe game is designed to be,but they encountered technical problems & had to step back...
I remember their first World Event with massive battles across the map...they were good in the idea but didn´t turn out how they expected & had to disable it....
Events after that has become more & more encorseted but still loads of fun & godies like mounts etc
I believe TRION will follow some GW2 ideas in Rift. They are already testing in beta realms some kind of PvP similar to GW2´s where you get leveled up to max level... only problem i see with that is that RIFT is too gear centered...don´t know how they will make that work...
Still very refreshing to see TRION trying all those different changes without fear... and delivering alternatives ways to play & level outside raiding (can´t stand raiding...it´s so 2011...........)
I do believe RIFT will become better & better with time. It already is.
I´ll be buying Storm Legion btw ,it´s a massive update that triples the size of the actual game. I´ll have to find some time out of GW2 but i guess i´ll be able in a couple of months^^
Developers must be supported when doing things right.
I love gaming you know, i support companies so i can keep on playing video games.
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There is NO miracle patch.
95% of what you see in beta won't change by launch.
Hope is not a stategy.
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"This kind of topic is like one of those little cartoon boxes held up by a stick on a string, with a piece of meat under it. In other words, bait."
Old-style gameplay = no futur
I think they last 1 or 2 years ..
Lol, ya ok.
I've played both extensively. PS2 is the superior game from a mechanic/FPS standpoint, but it comes with a big downside: no PvE. While Firefall comes with PvE, the gameplay/hit detection/performance is not very good right now. It's not a bad game per se, especially not considering Red 5 is a very small studio, but it's never going to be a big hit. It's going to be a niche game like Global Agenda.
If Trion does the same with Defiance as they did with Rift, I can see it being the first successful AAA MMOFPS with both PvE and PvP.
Believe me.. see ya next year
See ya next year, where?
Since there are no official numbers for Rift subscribers, I do not know what you base your surprising assumption on...
However, I tried Rift couple times and just could not get in. The only game I know of that has worse character animations is LOTRO and then Rift provides utter generic game play.
Those two mixed up together killed it for me...
Doubtful. Defiance looks good (but many games have). But if it plays well, and is updated in the same fashion Rifts is, it will do well.
Firefall has some good points, but their PvE milestone is months away (at least two, three or four is possible). Then they need to work the bugs out of it. So, thats another few months. Just for the next mile stone. So, we really aren't going to see the full game until well into 2013.
Planetside 2, is strictly PvP. So its not even targeting the same audience as Firefall and Defiance are. Not to mention it is SOE ...
I'm looking forwards to Defiance, but we will have to see how it plays.
Hmm, Hadn't thought of it in that regard.
Someone better start sending out notifications to all those subscribing customers.
HAHAHAHA!!!......OK, Ok, ok......
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
You better let Warcraft know as well...HAHAHA!! that its been dead for years by your logic (or lack of it)...HAHAHA!!!!
Their are some that do not understand the way players are and what makes a great game.
I don't believe the French
Ahh, I see, I thought he typo'd future. But that's the French spelling.
So, then according to the poster, the French require a newer style of game play.
At least we know Rift will do fine in the English speaking countries.
Pretty true, though.
At least they seem to be a decent company, so...