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Subscription Numbers

AhnogAhnog Keller, TXPosts: 231Member Uncommon

The last report we had from Bioware on subscriptions was somewhere between 1m and 500k. That seems to be inline with the number of servers world wide.

 

When I played EVE they had 300k subscribers. During peak playing time somewhere between 30k and 35k were online. Taking then 15% as a peak population current online estimate that is easily covered by the number of servers present.

Ahnog

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  • vorpal28vorpal28 UKPosts: 245Member Uncommon
    I don't think anyone's here anymore, they all seem to be playing GW2...
  • Sevenstar61Sevenstar61 Centreville, VAPosts: 1,669Member Uncommon

    People who actually play game avoid these forums. Not sure what am I doing here LOL. Back to the game:)

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  • BetaguyBetaguy Halifax, NSPosts: 2,580Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by vorpal28
    I don't think anyone's here anymore, they all seem to be playing GW2...

    Only till the 25th then half will go back to WoW and GW2 will be like SWToR...

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  • BetaguyBetaguy Halifax, NSPosts: 2,580Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Sevenstar61
    People who actually play game avoid these forums. Not sure what am I doing here LOL. Back to the game:)

    I play SWToR and I am still here

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  • keithiankeithian Los Angeles, CAPosts: 3,085Member Uncommon
    I'm loving GW2 but will probably come back to this game to get my level 42 to 50 when its free to play and maybe more if they make the world feel more alive.

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  • defector1968defector1968 Nar ShaddaaPosts: 410Member Uncommon

    remember a statement just before the pre-release starts, that even with 500k subs the game is stil be in good and will stay for the years to come..

    seeing f2p goes live guess that sub number is far below now

  • velluccivellucci montreal, QCPosts: 23Member
    Originally posted by Betaguy
    Originally posted by vorpal28
    I don't think anyone's here anymore, they all seem to be playing GW2...

    Only till the 25th then half will go back to WoW and GW2 will be like SWToR...

    Just because thats what happened to your beloved Swtor doesn't mean it will happen to my beloved Gw2. I know you want it to happen to Gw2 but uh...get ready for dissapointment.

  • EmeraqEmeraq Medical Lake, WAPosts: 927Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Betaguy
    Originally posted by vorpal28
    I don't think anyone's here anymore, they all seem to be playing GW2...

    Only till the 25th then half will go back to WoW and GW2 will be like SWToR...

    I sub to SWTOR and play GW2, GW2 is devouring most of my time.. With that said, I haven't subbed to WoW in almost two years, I tried cata and didn't care too much for it, the 25th will not effect either of my games of choice... I will NEVER go back to WoW as SWTOR and GW2 do it better for me.

  • gervaise1gervaise1 .Posts: 3,240Member Rare
    Originally posted by Betaguy
    Originally posted by vorpal28
    I don't think anyone's here anymore, they all seem to be playing GW2...

    Only till the 25th then half will go back to WoW and GW2 will be like SWToR...

    Why the 25th?  No subscription fee. Sure that some people will play through the game and eventually get bored but there is no financial reason why they should drop the game.

    GW1 sold tens of millions. No reason why GW2 won't. 

  • YakkinYakkin irvine, CAPosts: 919Member
    Originally posted by Betaguy
    Originally posted by vorpal28
    I don't think anyone's here anymore, they all seem to be playing GW2...

    Only till the 25th then half will go back to WoW and GW2 will be like SWToR...

    I kinda wish people would stop wishing doom and gloom on other MMOs just so their own MMO will be superior by default.

  • stealthbrstealthbr BrasiliaPosts: 1,053Member
    Originally posted by gervaise1 GW1 sold tens of millions. No reason why GW2 won't. 

    ROFL

  • YakkinYakkin irvine, CAPosts: 919Member
    Originally posted by gervaise1 GW1 sold tens of millions. No reason why GW2 won't. 

    Uh...

    Not that I don't agree that GW2 will likely sell a lot, but GW1 didn't sell tens of millions.

  • SaunZSaunZ Las Vegas, NVPosts: 196Member Uncommon

    I still play swtor.  i am having a blast and i am in a huge guild.  our guild has almost 500 members and is VERY active.  it is on Drooga's Pleasure Barge, on the Republic side.

     

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  • pmaurapmaura Orlando, COPosts: 527Member Uncommon
    I think everyone in there mother is waiting for the f2p, why pay now when you get just wait a month
  • AethaerynAethaeryn Woodstock, ONPosts: 2,367Member Uncommon
    I wlil be playing again when it goes free to play.

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  • Loke666Loke666 MalmöPosts: 19,169Member Rare
    Originally posted by Ahnog
    The last report we had from Bioware on subscriptions was somewhere between 1m and 500k. That seems to be inline with the number of servers world wide. When I played EVE they had 300k subscribers. During peak playing time somewhere between 30k and 35k were online. Taking then 15% as a peak population current online estimate that is easily covered by the number of servers present.

    I have a feeling the number is a lot closer to 500K than a million, but sure, that is a clear possibility.

    On the other hand we can be rather sure that the number is dropping fast enough for EA to already make it F2P so I would guess that the numbers are dropping pretty fast.

    10-20%of all players online during primetime seems like reasonable numbers.

     

  • IllyssiaIllyssia LondonPosts: 1,524Member
    Originally posted by gervaise1
    Originally posted by Betaguy
    Originally posted by vorpal28
    I don't think anyone's here anymore, they all seem to be playing GW2...

    Only till the 25th then half will go back to WoW and GW2 will be like SWToR...

    Why the 25th?  No subscription fee. Sure that some people will play through the game and eventually get bored but there is no financial reason why they should drop the game.

    GW1 sold tens of millions. No reason why GW2 won't. 

    GW1 didn't sell tens of millions of copies though. 

  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Manchester, NHPosts: 3,374Member Uncommon
    I will return at some point.  It's a great title as a F2P game or even a $30 B2P game with a GW2 model.
  • tiefighter25tiefighter25 Winchester, MAPosts: 937Member
    Originally posted by Loke666
    Originally posted by Ahnog
    The last report we had from Bioware on subscriptions was somewhere between 1m and 500k. That seems to be inline with the number of servers world wide. When I played EVE they had 300k subscribers. During peak playing time somewhere between 30k and 35k were online. Taking then 15% as a peak population current online estimate that is easily covered by the number of servers present.

    I have a feeling the number is a lot closer to 500K than a million, but sure, that is a clear possibility.

    On the other hand we can be rather sure that the number is dropping fast enough for EA to already make it F2P so I would guess that the numbers are dropping pretty fast.

    10-20%of all players online during primetime seems like reasonable numbers.

     

    The 500k to 1 million range is pretty laughable. That's a huge margin of error. What's the next quarterly report going to be? Zero to 500k plus or minus 500 thousand?

    Also bear in mind that the last subscription count included the 6 month (many of which were inactive) subs. If only 10% of the 1.4 million preorders were 6 month subs, that's 140,000 subs that might have gone poof overnight.

    The pretty extensive player survey of concurrent populations: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=484899

    puts average concurrent pop at about 30k. (Also an average full server is believed to be 3.638 players)

    Since GW2 has come out, the slow burn on SWTOR's pop has become more accelerated.

    There's the big dip in xfire numbers.

    Also tor status now lists the destination servers as follows:

     

    North America:

    4 standard servers

    8 light servers.

     

    Europe:

    11 light servers

     

    Asia-Pacific:

    2 light servers

    1 dead server

    Also worthy of note, Blizz's MoP comes out in 3 weeks.

     

    So far Bioware has only released a few details of a 1.4 patch, but has not inclued a release date.

    I don't see sub numbers being very strong when SWTOR eventually goes Freemium.

    To be honest, I don't really see how any bump form the cash shop can really help much either.

    At this point, I think maintence mode is a valid question to be asking.

    The switch to Freemium means that EA no longer needs the dead albatross of quarterly sub number announcements around its neck; which in turn, from EA's perspective, will stop dragging its stock price down.

    Not that EA would especially want the bad press of shutting SWTOR down, but it might not even be possible depending on the terms of the IP license with EA.

    I know, speculation, speculation everywhere. Just noting which way the wind seems to be blowing.

     

  • tiefighter25tiefighter25 Winchester, MAPosts: 937Member

    Aslo worth noting, no one really knows when the FTP switch will be thrown for SWTOR.

    November is the target date, but there is no actual D-Day.

    In the interviews form Germany, the developers said they hoped to be ready in November.

    The latest developer tidbits and interviews talk about changes they hope to implement in January.

    The skelton crew maybe having a lot of trouble gatting the game in FTP mode.

    What I'm getting at is that restless subs on the fence of unsubbing aren't getting much solid info from BW on just about anything.

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