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Originally posted by Krytycal Originally posted by Creslin321 Originally posted by Krytycal Originally posted by Creslin321 Originally posted by Krytycal Originally posted by Creslin321 Originally posted by Krytycal Originally posted by Creslin321
You're the one dreaming, friend. I dare you to go look into the SWTOR/Rift forum or any other MMO that had big sales in the last few years. The boards are exactly the same as GW2 is now for the first month. A lot of people loving it, the journey was great, blah blah, a couple of bored people here and there, but nothing too drastic, not for the first few weeks. The wake-up call comes month down the road when people realize they've been there and done that. If you think GW2's zergy WvWvW PvP, sPvP and rehashed DEs will save them from the same fate, you are the one who's delusional, my friend. I guarantee you GW2 will not grow past the initial release rush because it doesn't do anything different enough to bring players outside the stale MMORPG playerbase. I'd be willing to put money on that.
How much, and do you have Paypal lol .
But honestly, I agree that GW2's "active players" will die down after the release rush. This is just common sense...even if you adore the game, you can't afford to play it obsessively for a year straight, and you will eventually burn through the content.
This is not new though...IMO, what keeps people coming back are greate experiences. Like, if I play GW2 for 2 months, have an awesome experience, and then take a break...I am way more likely to buy an expansion than if I left the game in disgust.
As it stands now, I will DEFINITELY buy a GW2 expansion, and I think that a very large percentage of the GW2 playerbase will as well. It's just a very well made game, and more of it seems like a wonderful prospect to me.
Also, I think that the B2P model ameliorates the necessity to keep people actively playing your game...I already spent $35 on the cash shop and it hasn't been out for a month. So I think that a lot of players will wind up spending their money "up front" in bursts rather than having it slowly but reliability trickle in like it would with the sub model.
So do I, with enough funds from selling stuff in Diablo RMAH to match any wager you'd like to do.
Additionally, I remember reading from one of the rabid fanbois that GW2 devs said they were not going for GW1's cash-in-with-an-expansion-every-x-months model, and instead where going to add free content and bank on microtransactions. No quotes on that, but if that's the case, then GW2 will need to maintain a substantial active playerbase to make profit from microtransactions.
We'll see down the road I guess. For the time being my money is on GW2 being no different than the latest batch of AAA themeparks.
Have you played it? I'm not saying that to be coy or anything, because it honestly is a good game. I wouldn't lie to you...it's fairly different from other AAA themeparks. Even if you only play it for a month, if you enjoy it, you will get your money's worth.
You may want to give it a try, all I'm saying.
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Originally posted by Krytycal Originally posted by Eir_S Originally posted by Creslin321 Originally posted by Eir_S Originally posted by Krytycal GW2 had as much hype and marketing behind it as SWTOR did, if not more.
Yeah really, 90% of the hype and marketing for GW2 was word of mouth by fans. SWTOR had tons of OMFG AWOE-SOME mega-expensive CG trailers.
It wasn't just the trailers, it was the popularity behind Bioware and the marketing by EA, and the partnership with Lucasarts. There hasn't been a game that hyped and marketed in years. It had tons of expectations behind it based almost solely on the histories of the companies involved. GW2, in comparison, had people frothing on forums.
Krytycal and hikaru77 need to get their facts straight in this thread, it's almost unbelievable the bs they're spewing.
Just because you don't want to believe it doesn't make it BS. GW2 had as much hype and marketing as SWTOR in the places I frequent. Which are probably the places that count when it comes to MMORPG sales. You're not going to get a CoD junkie playing SWTOR after watching an ad on PS3, doesn't work that way. I guarantee the majority of MMORPG players were aware of GW2 because it was hyped and advertised in the circles they frequent just as much as SWTOR was. If you don't find that believable then you're being intentionally obtuse.
I wasn't a particular fan of either IP and I was personally more hyped for GW2 than I ever was for SWTOR.
Ok, then where were the big TV and Youtube spots for the game? Why didn't I see GW2 banners everywhere? How many millions of dollars was it that EA spent advertising SWTOR again?
Oh but because you saw it hyped in "the circles you frequent" means it had as much marketing. Hype? Maybe. The betas made people crazy... but you talk as if ANet themselves put even a fraction of the effort into a full-on marketing campaign as EA and Bioware did, and that's simply wishful thinking, ie: BS. You put Star Wars on something and then market it, it's going to sell really well. Sure it didn't help them in the end, but that's not the argument. There's no contest, and if you still think GW2 had as much marketing behind it as a game developed by EA, Bioware, and Lucasarts, well that's your problem. Unless you can prove your statement, I'm not taking your claim seriously and I can't think of anyone who would.
Originally posted by hikaru77 Originally posted by DiSpLiFF I went on a 10 day cruise so I missed the "big" launch of GW2. Did it live up to the hype and break all the records, smash WoW, and all the other stuff people were saying it was going to do? I tried searching for any big news on it and found nothing other than decent pre-launch numbers.
NO. is even behind swtor on sales, and is B2P wich mean, for an overhyper game like gw2 should had sold more copies, i remember NCsoft talking about 3-5mill of copies at launch, is far behind that number.
Odd. It's sold out at a lot of stores and they postponed the sale on the official website.
Originally posted by Creslin321 Originally posted by Krytycal Originally posted by Creslin321 Originally posted by Krytycal Originally posted by Creslin321 Originally posted by Krytycal Originally posted by Creslin321 Originally posted by Krytycal