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Originally posted by dynamicipftw http://beta.xfire.com/games/gw2 93k hours 3 days ago 81k hours 2 days ago 73k hours yesterday It will be interesting to see if this trend continues.
Ooh, I wanna play trends too! Let's see...
93K on a Sunday during a holiday weekend in the U.S.
81K on the holiday itself, when many families are having cookouts and the like.
73K on the Tuesday people are going back to work and many kids are starting the new school year.
Definitely a trend here. People play less when they're not playing.
Oderint, dum metuant.
Right. What you forgot to mention, OP is that GW2 is still ranked #2 OVERALL. And has been for the last 5 days. So, while the numbers have dropped (probably as people have gone back to work/school), so have the numbers of most, if not all of the other games there. I guess based on the number drop you can call GW2 a failure, but considering its ranking of number 2 overall and I believe number 1 for MMORPGs, I'd say it's successful so far.
Nice try though.
You want me to pay to play a game I already paid for???
Be afraid.....The dragons are HERE!
Originally posted by dynamicipftw You can't compare it with swtor, the game is pretty much dead. Its numbers fluctuate and say pretty much nothing. You don't want to compare it with WoW, it is on the steady decline. If GW2 wants to be successful it needs good player retention.
Dead or not it is the number 3 MMORPG in XFIRE in time played.
We've seen a decline in all the top 5 titles in the XFiRE ranks from Sunday->Monday->Tuesday.
So that isn't a GW2 exclusive.
WoW is the #5 and a MMORPG-> it shows a similar decline to GW2 during Sunday->Monday->Tuesday.
I'm pretty sure there are more players playing WoW than GW2 and clocking more hours than there are GW2 players, regardless of GW2 being a massive success so far.
Sunday->Monday (holiday in US)->Tuesday and End of August->return to work school aren't good base periods. Neither is launch time.
Did you ever heard about "seasonal adjustments" or "seasonal corrections"?
A better measurament would be to build a trend based on the next 5 or 6 weekends.
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These numbers are VERY alarming.
I am not sure why?
But, I KNOW that I am alarmed!
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter A better measurament would be to build a trend based on the next 5 or 6 weekends.
This is correct, but those numbers are all we have right now. But yes in the next 1-2 months it will become clear if GW2 was a success or not.
Originally posted by dynamicipftw Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter A better measurament would be to build a trend based on the next 5 or 6 weekends.
Seems like the intelligence has peaked on mmorpg.com.
The period in question is not long enough to base a trend on it.
However, it will be proven wrong only when / if there are higher results again, will it not.
Whether or not this happens is not my concern.
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunterhttp://beta.xfire.com/games/lolLeague of Legends:3 days ago: 136K hours.2 days ago: 128K hours1 day ago: 118K hourshttp://beta.xfire.com/games/cod4Call of Duty 43 days ago: 82K hours.2 days ago: 72K hours1 day ago: 67K hourshttp://beta.xfire.com/games/wowWoW 3 days ago: 25K hours.2 days ago: 22K hours1 day ago: 20K hourshttp://beta.xfire.com/games/swtor 3 days ago: 6K hours.2 days ago: 5K hours1 day ago: 4K hoursWeekend and August finished?
Originally posted by Purutzil Damn it, why didn't I make this thread earlier? I was always wanting to post this thread up for a new game just so I got credit for it, because you can pretty much bet that a game will 'peak' no matter what game it is.
Pretty much bet? Im gonna go with logic on this one and say its a certainy that a game or anything you a population graph will peak...
If you continue to make sweeping statements like you know what everyone everywhere thinks about a certain topic then I am going to shout at you.It easy to type 'I think this is the worst game ever'Rather than the 'This is the worst game ever'
Didn't WoW peak 4 years after its release?
Originally posted by coretex666 The period in question is not long enough to base a trend on it. However, it will be proven wrong only when / if there are higher results again, will it not. Whether or not this happens is not my concern.
The OP doesn't limit itself to saying it peeked.
It also says "it will be interesting to say if this trend continues" and the trend in question is a downtrend.
And some have also interpreted, based on the posts, that what this means is GW2 is dying and players are leaving by droves.
Originally posted by dynamicipftw Originally posted by tawess X-Fire... serious stuff... That being said i see Gw numbers ping back and forth over the comming months as people come and go from MoP and the next batch of people can afford to buy the game.
Wait was it not serious when people were making this thread? http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/363225/4-x-as-many-Xfire-users-playing-GW2-than-WOW.html
Did it suddenly become less serious now?
I am pretty sure i did not post in that thread... So why you are qouting me i have not the slightest.
But yes i was being sarcastic. X-fire are good for broad general trends but it is very fickle for short time.
This have been a good conversation
Originally posted by demonic87 People still use x-fire?
The half a milion hours logged every day by xfire people would suggest there are still one or two of them yes.
At last a good old thread....Gratz to OP...Keep the tradions alive.
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter Originally posted by coretex666 The period in question is not long enough to base a trend on it. However, it will be proven wrong only when / if there are higher results again, will it not. Whether or not this happens is not my concern.
However you can't call it a down trend when all games are showing the same population changes for the same exact days. It's simply a bump as a result of outside factors, in this case the holiday weekend in the U.S. and school starting for a huge number of players at the same time. To claim it's a trend for any one game you'd have to show it being relatively specific to that one game over a longer period of time. Say for example the next four weekends show a 20% drop in players from the one before them. That's a trend forming. But if there's a dip on one weekend and not the others you need to look at outside factors that may have affected that one weekend.
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Originally posted by smh_alot Interesting thread, but it's far too early to draw any conclusions. Next to that, you need to a couple of other things in mind: - weekend hrs will be higher than weekday hrs, simply bc Xfire measures players during the day and number of hrs, and ppl play more on average in a weekend day - if you want to compare, better do it with the same day in different weeks, like a sunday with a sunday, a wednesday with a wednesday etc. Another thing, which isn't Xfire related but regarding other tracking tools: the peak concurrent users is often higher during weekdays than weekends, bc more people will play around the same time at a weekday evening than other times. However, this only applies when a regional player base is tracked, not a global one. As for what we can see so far regarding GW2: - the number of hrs for this week's tuesday (73.1k) is lower than that of last week's tuesday (81.1k), but the number of players is higher (13k vs 14.2k) in Xfire - the number of players now is about 150% of the number when they said they had over a million pre-sales
Just to add that last tuesday was a) game launch for non pre-orders and pre-purchases and b) it was an august tuesday aka as holiday month in the northen hemisphere.
Yeah the logic is really bogus with the GW2 crowd. Basically "all hail X-fire" when it benefits them, but when it is used against them "X-fire is not accurate" . Gotta love the double standards
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Originally posted by sr7olsniper Originally posted by dynamicipftw Originally posted by tawess X-Fire... serious stuff... That being said i see Gw numbers ping back and forth over the comming months as people come and go from MoP and the next batch of people can afford to buy the game.
Do you really think that people don't play games more on weekends than weekdays?
That said, I fully expect GW2 hours to drop off a bit from the initial weekend even next weekend. Folks are basically getting out of their "MUST PLAY" phase.
Originally posted by sr7olsniper Yeah the logic is really bogus with the GW2 crowd. Basically "all hail X-fire" when it benefits them, but when it is used against them "X-fire is not accurate" . Gotta love the double standards
I find it pretty stupid and useless in both cases
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Been gaming online for 12 years and in MMOs for 9. In all that time, I used xfire for about 2 months. My online friends which number in the hundreds do not use xfire. I take that back, A few did and might still do. The guild I am currently in which I joined with Age of Conan and now play GW2 in does not use xfire.
I do not use xfire as a gauge for a game. I will now return to the shadows and let you continue.
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