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Originally posted by quon2k9 Originally posted by SuperDonk
I followed the game, and it sounded so good. I guess I'm one of the players who always thought I was better than I actually was, but GW2 PVP just isn't for me.
I don't like CoD pvp, I don't like BF3 pvp. The only games I like PVP in is WoW and TF2. Maybe I'm not the gamer I thought I was. This has been an eye opening experience for me. I want dumbed down, I want simple, I want PVP that I can do when I'm so drunk I stumble to the fridge to eat once I'm done.
I'm starting to think that my competitive PVP is past me, like an old soldier who knows the young guys have passed him. Hopefully there will be another MMO like WoW that allows me to have fun with PVP in the future, if not, make the PVE I enjoy, something GW2 does not do.
That's...interesting. What I don't/didn't like about WoW is just that, how everything is dumbed-down to the LCD. I want my PvP to be challenging, where if I'm tired or not concentrating, I'll get totally & completely rocked/owned. Walking that razor's edge gives me my thrill, not autopilot PvP-Lite.
I need decent PvP in the MMO's that I play, & the harder/more active, the better. I suck at FPS's, & don't have the time nowadays for anything that's gear-based. so this is right up my alley. I didn't play GW1 but was looking for my PvP fix after I left Rift & GW2 is filling it. There need to be more sPvP objectives, more maps & a few broken abilities need to be looked at, but the rest of the PvP is quite enjoyable.
Yeah, the GW2 PvE is horrid, blah & meh don't even describe it, especially after coming from TSW, where, IMO, it was the reverse. I was gathering, crafting & doing events to level but I guess I'll just go W-v-W like everyone else since it's apparently ridiculously easy to progress that way. If I overdo it, I can see myself getting burned out like I did in Rift, running BG's 24/7, but I hope they'll add things to make sPvP more interesting before that happens.
What's fun for me isn't fun for you, nothing wrong with that, at least in my opinion. Different strokes for different folks, huh?
Now I have to figure out the new WoW talent trees. It's been a couple of months, and I didn't keep up with any of it because I thought GW2 was going to be my mmo.
Originally posted by Tibernicus WoW does not offer anything that other MMOs don't do better.
Population, amount of content.
That's all i can think of.
Originally posted by SuperDonk I didn't want to do it, I wanted GW2 to be my last hope... But, it's not. GW2 has it's place on my hard drive, and it will continue too, but it isn't going to be my mainstay MMO. I really, really wanted it to be, but the PVP is just not what I was looking for. I thought the "balanced" pvp and the lack of gear differences would of been enough, but sadly it isn't. There is nothing in GW2 that is like my rogue in WoW.... Maybe I'm getting to old to PVP, maybe I do need gear to balance it out when I have had too many beers (my favorite time to pvp). But I'm finding myself wanting to go back to the PVP my fingers know. It's funny that I'm sad that I have to go back to WoW, but it's time for me to realize that nothing out there in the MMO market gives me what WoW gives me. And that is simple, fun, killing of others. I don't care about massive battles, I want to kill the guy in front of me. I know now not to prepurchase another MMO because I always end up back on my rogue, ganking at will, under stealth. I'm sorry GW2, you will be a great game for many.... just not me .
Subtlety rogue since 2004 here
Alright here we go. See the website logo with the title? Look below is a Home tab. Now look to the right Game List. Alright, click it. Those are your options over wow. Sure some won't be as good, but there are plenty of better choices, many of which not purposely sabtaging their own game.
Not saying of course WoW is terrible (am jabbing at it, sorry!) but there are many choices there if you willingly give them a chance.
Regarding other games: Some things are done better, yes. Sadly these "better things" aren't all consolidated in one game, but rather they are scattered amongst several games which also have their own chunk of poor or terrible features. If there was some other game that kept everybody happy, we'd ALL be playing it, wouldn't we.
With apologies to Winston Churchill for misusing a famous quote, "WoW is the worst MMO out there... apart from all the others."
I don't care about massive battles, I want to kill the guy in front of me.
I don't care about massive battles, I want to kill the guy in front of me.
WHY PPL DONT GET IT, I WAS FINE IN 1.5 AION KILLING 1 OR 2 PPLS MAX 4 JUST FOR FUN
DONT FUKING CARE ABOUT RACE OR FACTION ...
devs dont get it
Originally posted by Loke666 Originally posted by SuperDonk Titan will be the next MMO I buy, I'm done spending money on MMOs that just don't do it for me. And that said, if Titan is not the PVP I want, I'll once again return to WoW...
I have a feeling Titan wont do so well and that Blizzard will announce Wow 2 soon after its release. I would be very surprised if they dont already have a small team working on a Wow sequel. To make a MMOFPS that will take over after Wow is a really hard task and I have my doubt even Kaplan can pull it off.
While I am not a Wow fan myself the game is well done and I can understand people enjoying it.
They never said Titan is MMOFPS.
Originally posted by SuperDonk Originally posted by quon2k9 Originally posted by SuperDonk
I don't recall bashing you, just stating our differences. Agreed, to each his own.
Originally posted by SuperDonk Originally posted by tank017 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMpXAknykeg
Yes, yes, I'm the loser re-subing WoW. This thread is sort of therapy for me to let my feelings out. I know that there are many who love the changes GW2 brought to the market, and I have no bad feeling towards them.
Those folks never liked MMORPG's as they were designed and finally have a title that resembles more of what they wanted, sort of MMORPG light, with all the "pain" removed from them.
They play these games for fun...... go figure.
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Familiarity is a funny thing; I think that’s exactly what Bliz counts on, the feeling of attachment to WoW as you have played it for so long.
Nothing wrong with going back to WoW, whatever floats you’re boat but I think one week into GW is a little premature, it will take time to become familiar with a game to the same level as WoW.
If you have fun fun in wow...well that´s great! go back there...
I just find it amazing that some people just seem to be unable to enjoy any other game 6 years after....
some even try to "wowize" any other game that comes out....
seems like they cannot enjoy anything different....
just weird, wow isn´t that good in my opinion after all....
Game & combat is sooooooooo outdated & static...but hey! it´s all about tastes...
To me it sounds like you weren't ready to give GW2 a fair shake.
I'm sure it took you time and effort to learn how to pvp in WoW, and similarly it takes time and effort to learn another game.
If something makes you sad don't do it. Seems a simple concept to me.
nothing wrong w returning to a mmo you enjoy
at least you are open-minded to try other mmos beyond WOW
im sure ill return to WOW for a few weeks/months to poke around, but WOW doesnt keep me interested long
but thats *me*
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I love hearing all these people say they are bored with GW2 already. I cant wait for the server populations to normalize and WvW queues to lessen.
WoW is waiting for you all........why wait to go back.
I feel the same way bro. I highly praise GW2 for brining one of most balanced PvP to the table, but the structure and game skill system is throwing me off.
Maybe WoW has really did leave indoctornated me but I want PvP with hard CCs, and random world PvP encounters while PvE. I god damn hated 3v3s in WoW but battleground was best blast of fun I ever had in any MMO. GW2 is very fun but it just won't be my primary mmo. It's a weird game that seems to be missing something to tip it over.
Originally posted by itgrowls mediocrity is never better then innovation. Went and played WoW to see what they changed since i played in the beta. Nothing. Sure they finally at long last fixed the issues with my class but not with my profession (hunter.engineer) they didn't do anything else accept dumb down as a fix the talent trees adding talents that really aren't all that great or creative and then they took elements from other titles and put them into their game as if it were their idea (AOE looting anyone?) since the D3 was released and their devs for D3 said what they did on FB about the main creative mind behind D2, I lost what little respect i had for blizzard.
Welcome to the wonderful world of video game development. Fresh ideas are hard to come by and anything revolutionary is for the most part none existant. Pretty much anything unique and ground breaking has already been done. Have a new idea which probably isn't new but rather a rehash of something else, throw it in the pot and let the masses have at it.
Sorry but your not stating anything that any true gamer doesn't already know. Lets pick on WoW because its developed by Blizzard and of course they are the evil empire lolz.
So not true... WoW does it better bub... quit kidding yourself. MoP is better than GW2. Just stating the facts. See ya on the 25th in game.
Originally posted by Dibdabs
I like it, that will be my new sig. Back to WoW.... doesn't have the same ring to it.
Originally posted by ZzadIf you have fun fun in wow...well that´s great! go back there...I just find it amazing that some people just seem to be unable to enjoy any other game 6 years after....some even try to "wowize" any other game that comes out....seems like they cannot enjoy anything different....oh well....just weird, wow isn´t that good in my opinion after all....Game & combat is sooooooooo outdated & static...but hey! it´s all about tastes...
Originally posted by Indol To me it sounds like you weren't ready to give GW2 a fair shake. I'm sure it took you time and effort to learn how to pvp in WoW, and similarly it takes time and effort to learn another game.
And you would probably be right, but my patience with MMOs has been growing thinner and thinner with each launch. I gave SWTOR three months, TSW two weeks, and now GW2 a week and a half. My frustration is not about the money spent, I'll always be able to go back to GW2 and soon SWTOR without spending any money. My frustration is that a game that is 8 years old is still, in my opinion, the best MMO on the market and it only took buying a half dozen games to figure it out.
I'm just starting to realize the grass is greener on my side, I'm not going to be jumping the fence anymore.
Originally posted by Ausare Mentioning anything good about wow will only get you attacked here.
True. Ask me if I care... ^^ WoW for all its faults (which are legion) is still a good game up to level cap. After that, its mainly raids and PvP. Neither of which I'm interested in. I will most likely be going back for MoP. I'm interested in how the new monk class plays. It remains to be seen if I'll be running my four 85's (Warrior, Rogue, Death Knight, Hunter) up to 90. It depends on the new system.
Originally posted by Krystalmyth Originally posted by SuperDonk There is nothing in GW2 that is like my rogue in WoW....
No, there is nothing like the ez mode stunlocking class you're used to in GW2. It seems you will have to return to WoW to feel like you're a good player.
No offense, but this was very pathetic, but expected. World of Warcraft was designed to make people feel really good about themselves with a constantly shifting balance cycle that often made its more popular classes quite broken. You're a product of that. Not sure why you expected a game that strives to be balanced to make you feel as strong as you did when you were overpowered.
Please get off your high horse. GW2 in nothing different. It's made for the masses with profit in mind. It is a textbook example of a themepark game. As any other MMO. Stop praising GW2 like it is something different. It isn't. Only different thing is lack of trinity, which is arguably a better thing - lots of mixed feelings about that.
I won't take this to a personal level but you sound awfully like many other exWoW players who just wan't to believe their new MMO will trump WoW, or is better in every way possible. So bitter and angry. What did WoW do to you?
Of course GW2 is perfectly balanced as every single class can do every single thing equally good. Where is the challenge in that? And I am SURE after a few weeks when people figure out best ways to play classes everything, will be exactly like in WoW.
It's pathetic that I like rogue? I guess this type of response is to be expected posting something positive about WoW on these forums.