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With GW2 live is any other game worth a sub?

Gaia_HunterGaia_Hunter BristolPosts: 2,818Member Uncommon

Some seem to think GW2 only sells because it has no monthly fee.

In my opinion there are loads of games that have no sub fees and only have a box price that simply don't sell.

Additionally I don't see any game that is worth a sub when I can play GW2 without spending anything.

What about you?

Is there any game that is worth a sub now that you can play GW2?

Edit: Poll has a typo - life should read live.

Currently playing: GW2
Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders

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  • MMOwandererMMOwanderer LisbonPosts: 415Member

    Of course. I haven't played these games, but, if they don't end up failing (in the sense of sucking), i'd happily pay a sub.

    NeverWinter- It's F2P, but i'd pay a sub option to have everything. Of course, these is because of the Foundry, which will depend on the community. If the game's good, and a dedicated and imaginative playerbase is present, i'd have no problems.

    Archeage and The Repopulation- Being sandboxes, i'd actually rather, again, pay a sub and not have to deal with a cash shop.

    Potentially Titan, EQ Next or WOD, if they're great too.

    Honestly, i think that any mmorpg that is good enough, for me of course, and is built for longevity so that i play it for a long time, i'd have no problems with a sub.

     

  • immodiumimmodium ManchesterPosts: 1,578Member Uncommon

    I currently have a sub to EvE and will be keeping it.

    WoW has proved that people WILL pay a monthly fee for a game. I don't think GW2 will stop the subsciption model entirely.

    Subsciptions are not a big deal for me, being a working adult I can easily afford it. Some of my friends choose to sub to a gym, I prefer subbing to a game.

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  • ThraliaThralia EngerPosts: 219Member
    yes absolutely . there are way better games coming in the future than gw2
  • Gaia_HunterGaia_Hunter BristolPosts: 2,818Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Thralia
    yes absolutely . there are way better games coming in the future than gw2

    I was thinking more about current landscape with maybe near future.

    Additionally, a better future game might not have a sub either.

    Currently playing: GW2
    Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders

  • sugar4freesugar4free Reggio CalabriaPosts: 26Member

     

    Potentially maybe

     

    Theoretically possible

     

    Practically     N O !

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  • rpgalonrpgalon canilPosts: 430Member
    I have a sub on TSW, and I'm not canceling it anytime soon...
  • GreyhooffGreyhooff New York, NYPosts: 654Member

    I'd like to say TSW, but really...

    No

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  • ScalplessScalpless SnowballvillePosts: 1,396Member Uncommon
    Right now? No, not for me. In the future? Maybe. WoD and Archeage look promising, although we know very little about WoD and AA seems to have very bland combat.
  • L0C0ManL0C0Man Puerto OrdazPosts: 1,065Member Uncommon

    Depends on your tastes and playing style, I guess.

    For me, for example, with GW2 there's probably no other fantasy MMO that I'd pay a sub for a while at least.

    However, because of the setting/atmosphere/story, I'd definitively pay a sub for The Secret World, at least until I run out of pre endgame PVE content (dungeons, quests, main storyline), which some people did in 1 month, but with the amount of time I play would probably take me 3 or more months. Actually, if I could is what I would be doing right now (can't because of Venezuelan laws that put a limit on how much I can spend online every year, and this year with upgrading my computer I almost ran out of it, so unsubbed for a couple months for TSW while I play GW2).

    Some people that might like GW2 might most likely also spend subs on completely unrelated games, like EVE.

    Other people might keep sub games for things those games offer that GW2 doesn't (like instanced raiding in WoW or Rift)

    One thing's for sure... GW2 can become an industry changer, since it's a game with a box price not more expensive than most other MMOs are when released, with the quality expected of a sub game (I know this is subjective) and without a monthly sub and without the restrictions that F2P titles have for free users. That will make it harder for any future MMO coming out to justify charging for a monthly sub.

    What can men do against such reckless hate?

  • tyfontyfon OSLOPosts: 238Member

    You have to remember what you lose without a sub.

     

    ArenaNET has stated that they plan on spending less than 80% in support costs compared to other games with a sub. That means:

    • No ingame GM support
    • No phone support
    • Less than stellar email support

    http://gigaom.com/2006/10/26/guild-wars/

     

    You also get most of the new content in paid expansions and a cash shop for everything from extra bank/inventory to keys to open loot boxes.

     

  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Den HelderPosts: 9,065Member Uncommon
    Any game that gives you more then 10  to 15 hours of fun a week is worth a sub

    Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  • Gaia_HunterGaia_Hunter BristolPosts: 2,818Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by tyfon

    You have to remember what you lose without a sub.

     

    ArenaNET has stated that they plan on spending less than 80% in support costs compared to other games with a sub. That means:

    • No ingame GM support
    • No phone support
    • Less than stellar email support

    http://gigaom.com/2006/10/26/guild-wars/

     

    You also get most of the new content in paid expansions and a cash shop for everything from extra bank/inventory to keys to open loot boxes.

     

    The majority of content in most sub fee games also comes in paid expansions.

    And the cash shop has also been debated.

    You also need to remember what one gains by not having a sub.

    Currently playing: GW2
    Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders

  • NadiaNadia Canonsburg, PAPosts: 11,866Member Common

    i'm subbed to EQ2 until the end of the year but currently playing GW2 instead

     

    not sure if ill cancel it when it expires, but only because I like having variety of what I play

     

  • RohnRohn Saint Peters, MOPosts: 3,740Member Uncommon

    B2P appears to have become a built-in excuse for a lack of meaningful content at endgame, horrible customer service, broken systems, and a general lack of player longevity.

    Of course there are games worth a sub.

    TSW is worth a sub.

    EvE is worth a sub.

    There are many others.

    Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.

  • tyfontyfon OSLOPosts: 238Member
    Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
    Originally posted by tyfon

    You have to remember what you lose without a sub.

     

    ArenaNET has stated that they plan on spending less than 80% in support costs compared to other games with a sub. That means:

    • No ingame GM support
    • No phone support
    • Less than stellar email support

    http://gigaom.com/2006/10/26/guild-wars/

     

    You also get most of the new content in paid expansions and a cash shop for everything from extra bank/inventory to keys to open loot boxes.

     

    The majority of content in most sub fee games also comes in paid expansions.

    And the cash shop has also been debated.

    You also need to remember what one gains by not having a sub.

    EVE: "Free" expansions. You never pay more than the sub.

    Rift: Bi-montly free content updates

    TSW: Montly (hopefully) content updates. So far they had to delay one of them due to the restructuring.

     

    What do you gain by not having a sub? What parts of the game has improved as a result of not paying a sub?

  • ZinzanZinzan NorthPosts: 1,351Member
    Once PS2 launches im not sure i'll have the time for any other mmo and doubtful i'll have an active sub to any other game for a while now.

    Expresso gave me a Hearthstone beta key.....I'm so happy :)

  • Eir_SEir_S Argyle, NYPosts: 4,623Member
    No, and to me there weren't any worth a sub before GW2 either.
  • grimm6thgrimm6th Overland Park, KSPosts: 973Member
    I said no because I do not believe that MMOs should have subs at all.  Then again, I don't believe the sub model is actually the best model for MMOs anymore anyways.

    I used to TL;DR, but then I took a bullet point to the footnote.

  • Gaia_HunterGaia_Hunter BristolPosts: 2,818Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by tyfon
    Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
    Originally posted by tyfon

    You have to remember what you lose without a sub.

     

    ArenaNET has stated that they plan on spending less than 80% in support costs compared to other games with a sub. That means:

    • No ingame GM support
    • No phone support
    • Less than stellar email support

    http://gigaom.com/2006/10/26/guild-wars/

     

    You also get most of the new content in paid expansions and a cash shop for everything from extra bank/inventory to keys to open loot boxes.

     

    The majority of content in most sub fee games also comes in paid expansions.

    And the cash shop has also been debated.

    You also need to remember what one gains by not having a sub.

    EVE: "Free" expansions. You never pay more than the sub.

    Rift: Bi-montly free content updates

    TSW: Montly (hopefully) content updates. So far they had to delay one of them due to the restructuring.

     

    What do you gain by not having a sub? What parts of the game has improved as a result of not paying a sub?

    First they aren't free.

    You pay a sub.

    Second I've never had any problems with Anet and NCSOFT support.

    Third there are sub games that you have "free" content updates every few months (like 9 or so).

    Fourth, there is no content lock or forced slow downs.

    Fifth to early to say if GW2 doesn't have free content update.

    Sixth, money you spend in the game give you something straight away.

     

     

    Currently playing: GW2
    Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders

  • fenistilfenistil GliwicePosts: 3,005Member

    Really good at medium or big budget sized sandbox  or sandpark game without any CS, rmah or gold selling (like plex'es) and with good support that would ban sellers, bots and fix exploits fast.

    For that I would pay sub happily.

  • CeleustaCeleusta RomePosts: 26Member Uncommon
    I don't have any problem with a sub if I enjoy a game. While I'm having a lot of fun with GW2 now, I will continue to subscribe to and play EVE for the foreseeable future. It's still my favorite MMO all these years later and the depth and scope it offers I haven't found in any other titles. It's a completely different animal than GW2, and I'm glad both games can exist in the market.
  • GamerUntouchGamerUntouch smithville ON, ONPosts: 488Member
    Without GW2 I don't think any game is worth a sub.
  • Z3R01Z3R01 NYC, NYPosts: 2,426Member

    EVE Online is still worth a subscription.

    Only due to being radically different than GW2.

    Playing:

    Waiting on:

  • ArteanArtean GöteborgPosts: 209Member Uncommon
    I'm keeping my TSW sub, no doubt.

    .............
    When in doubt, troll.

  • SovrathSovrath Boston Area, MAPosts: 18,458Member Uncommon

    for me "yes".

    I believe in paying people who entertain me and I also believe in getting value for my money. If the game I am playing has a sub AND I believe it's of worth to me I'll pay the measley $15 per month.

    I mean heck, I pay 11.00 each day for my lunch when I'm at work.

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