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Finally a developer that cares about making art and not a profit

Syno23Syno23 LA, CA, CAPosts: 1,360Member

Actually ultimately we want GW2 to make a profit for future expansions and updates. So the profit is always a driver to create future content. But ArenaNet is dedicated and focused on ONLY the Guild Wars series and at this moment just Guild Wars 2. I wonder if anyone is still playing Guild Wars 1 lol. Probably if they can't afford a better PC or 60 dollars.

5 years of development of hard work and a publisher like NCSoft that gave them the time to make a perfect game. Not perfect, but pretty dang close.

And hopefully expansions very very soon.

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  • prpshrtprpshrt Clarksville, MDPosts: 258Member
    Actually there's a lot of things about GW1 I miss in GW2. So I do play it despite having a very good PC and GW2. I play both but I will say I don't play GW1 as much as I used to
  • CultOfXtcCultOfXtc nottinghamPosts: 378Member

    lol - you're deluded.  All dev's want to make money over art any day of the week.

    Silly post.

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  • Oracle_FefeOracle_Fefe N/A, NYPosts: 221Member
    Originally posted by bluefunk

    lol - you're deluded.  All dev's want to make money over art any day of the week.

    Silly post.

    There are two different minds in the company.

     

    The ones that say "We want to make games, and to do that we have to make money."

    And the ones that say "We want to make money, and to do that we have to make games."

  • DrealgrinDrealgrin Longwood, FLPosts: 156Member

    the writing and voice acting is horrendous. 

     

    But other than that it's alright, 

    I personally don't like the pvp but others love it so meh

  • KraylorKraylor Chandler, AZPosts: 94Member

    Art?  I feel like this GW2 forum is the audience at Obama's DNC convention from 4 years ago with the crowd passing out and crying. 

     

    Get real, they care about making money just as much as anyone else does, they just feel they can lure more people in without a sub fee and they have a cash shop that they will tweak when they see what is selling and what isn't.  If they see they are not making their targeted revenue from what is in the cash shop now, they will put in things that players will either need or want badly to make more money.

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  • RednecksithRednecksith Madison heights, MIPosts: 1,238Member

    What throws me for a loop is the drastic quality of the writing / dialogue. Some of it is really, really good (Asura, Charr storyline) and some of it is just incredibly BAD (Human noble storyline).

    It's like Drew Karpyshyn wrote the former, while Chris Metzen wrote the latter. Very jarring.

  • yaoming36yaoming36 None of your damn business, INPosts: 189Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Kraylor

    Art?  I feel like this GW2 forum is the audience at Obama's DNC convention from 4 years ago with the crowd passing out and crying. 

     

    Get real, they care about making money just as much as anyone else does, they just feel they can lure more people in without a sub fee and they have a cash shop that they will tweak when they see what is selling and what isn't.  If they see they are not making their targeted revenue from what is in the cash shop now, they will put in things that players will either need or want badly to make more money.

    A) The cashshop only has Cosmetic items not to mention that some ingame gear looks better anyway

    B) They recently stopped SELLING games because they wanted the current players to enjoy it without too much issues.

    They said they wanted to stop selling on a short term basis so they can have long term players.

    I don't know about you, but when was the last time a gaming company stopped making money just to give players a better experience.

  • kostoslavkostoslav somborPosts: 459Member
    That is why I dont need gems for bag and bank slots and why game is free
  • Method01Method01 VejlePosts: 128Member
    Fanboyism these days.. 
  • JeroKaneJeroKane OsloPosts: 5,353Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by yaoming36
    Originally posted by Kraylor

    Art?  I feel like this GW2 forum is the audience at Obama's DNC convention from 4 years ago with the crowd passing out and crying. 

     

    Get real, they care about making money just as much as anyone else does, they just feel they can lure more people in without a sub fee and they have a cash shop that they will tweak when they see what is selling and what isn't.  If they see they are not making their targeted revenue from what is in the cash shop now, they will put in things that players will either need or want badly to make more money.

    A) The cashshop only has Cosmetic items not to mention that some ingame gear looks better anyway

    B) They recently stopped SELLING games because they wanted the current players to enjoy it without too much issues.

    They said they wanted to stop selling on a short term basis so they can have long term players.

    I don't know about you, but when was the last time a gaming company stopped making money just to give players a better experience.

    Because it's really in their best interest.

    You don't want to open up too many servers and then having to go through the PR nightmare of merging them later on.

    Also, if people have a terrible experience right now.... they will play right in the hands of Blizzard and have most players jump ship instantly when MoP launches.

    So ofcourse they want to try to give people a good experience, so to reduce the tempation of the imminent MoP launch.

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Posts: 14,784Member Uncommon
    What makes you think that they don't care about making a profit?  Even if their goals were purely to make a profit, I'd say they've done pretty well for themselves.  Wouldn't you?
  • DMKanoDMKano Gamercentral, AKPosts: 8,541Member Uncommon

    Umm.. if they cared about art they would have done some small indie game.

     

    GW2 is all about making money - don't get me wrong it's a AAA game, and it's a good one. But Anet and NCSoft are in it for the profits first and foremost, as that's what business is all about.

    Otherwise the game woudn't cost $70 and there would be no cash shop if this wasn't about money.

     

    You don't make a *massively multiplayer* game that is NOT for the masses and that is not about making money - Get real.

  • stayontargetstayontarget Tacoma, WAPosts: 6,068Member Uncommon

    Own a company and the first thing you think about when you go to work in the morning is "how not to make a profit".

     

    Yeah right.

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  • coretex666coretex666 PraguePosts: 1,934Member Uncommon
    Congratz Anet for making you believe this.

    Waiting for L2 EU Classic

  • DMKanoDMKano Gamercentral, AKPosts: 8,541Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by coretex666
    Congratz Anet for making you believe this.

    Nobody is this naive - maybe a 10 year old but still....

  • oubersoubers bazelPosts: 876Member Common

    May Anet get filthy rich from this game imho.....they made a good game here imo.

    IF its not about the money maybe you forumdwellers should make us a game we can all enjoy for free then huh......yeah i thought so, you wouldnt know how to even start making a game......but once yours is ready (AND STABLE), then you have the right imho to talk to Anet about being greedy.

    Untill then, all you guys saying Anet is ONLY in it for the money are just full of it imho.

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  • DMKanoDMKano Gamercentral, AKPosts: 8,541Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by oubers

    May Anet get filthy rich from this game imho.....they made a good game here imo.

    IF its not about the money maybe you forumdwellers should make us a game we can all enjoy for free then huh......yeah i thought so, you wouldnt know how to even start making a game......but once yours is ready (AND STABLE), then you have the right imho to talk to Anet about being greedy.

    Untill then, all you guys saying Anet is ONLY in it for the money are just full of it imho.

    my 2 coppers :)

     

    A top notch MMORPG costs around 40-60 million dollars to make over several years these days - this is average some obviously cost over 250mil (cough SWTOR.. cough)

    Think about that for a minute.

     

    Now tell me a single company/investors that are going to front that kind of an investment for *art* and not profit.

    Anet is a business, and every business has one simple goal - to make money and be as profitable as possible. 

    Sure Anet has developers and employees who do a great job and are proud of their games - but if all the employees were working there for no cash to make art - there would be no GW2 - EVER

    So Anet (as a company) is only in it for the money - but I am sure that many employees enjoy working there, but still money is a primary motivator as they need to support their families.

     

     

  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Manchester, NHPosts: 2,928Member Uncommon
    The store says otherwise.  I don't really like the amount of storage they give you without paying cash.  Other than that I have no real complaints yet.
  • Creslin321Creslin321 Baltimore, MDPosts: 5,359Member
    Originally posted by bluefunk

    lol - you're deluded.  All dev's want to make money over art any day of the week.

    Silly post.

    No game developer is in the business solely for money.  Game development is generally not a career you just "fall into" like server admin, middle management, or HR...game developers really have to work to break into the business. In addition, game devs often have to work lots of OT and aren't compensated very well.

    if all you wanted to do is make money, then there are plenty easier things to do than game development.

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  • AvatarBladeAvatarBlade BucurestiPosts: 770Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by FrodoFragins
    The store says otherwise.  I don't really like the amount of storage they give you without paying cash.  Other than that I have no real complaints yet.

    I know this is not an option for people who want to have a lot of alts, but make a lvl 2, put 4 8 slot boxes on it and that should help with that problem. Now I just want the TP to work properly.

  • kaiser3282kaiser3282 Phoenix, AZPosts: 2,660Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by AvatarBlade
    Originally posted by FrodoFragins
    The store says otherwise.  I don't really like the amount of storage they give you without paying cash.  Other than that I have no real complaints yet.

    I know this is not an option for people who want to have a lot of alts, but make a lvl 2, put 4 8 slot boxes on it and that should help with that problem. Now I just want the TP to work properly.

    Also the option of making money in game through farming / selling stuff and trade it for gems. Of course the trolls will say thats a bad thing too, you shouldnt have to do that. But what exactly do people do when they want mor ebag space in other games? Do you just wish for it and it magically appears? Nope. Requires lots of time farming for the biggest bags, or lots of time invested in crafting to make your own bags.

  • MadGeloMadGelo SvendborgPosts: 110Member

    people complaining about cash shop?

     

    you do know that you can exchange ingame gold for gems, right?

  • CaldrinCaldrin CwmbranPosts: 4,533Member Uncommon
    there is one main reason this game was made.. and yes thats to make them a profit and thats all they care about..
  • oubersoubers bazelPosts: 876Member Common
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by oubers

    May Anet get filthy rich from this game imho.....they made a good game here imo.

    IF its not about the money maybe you forumdwellers should make us a game we can all enjoy for free then huh......yeah i thought so, you wouldnt know how to even start making a game......but once yours is ready (AND STABLE), then you have the right imho to talk to Anet about being greedy.

    Untill then, all you guys saying Anet is ONLY in it for the money are just full of it imho.

    my 2 coppers :)

     

    A top notch MMORPG costs around 40-60 million dollars to make over several years these days - this is average some obviously cost over 250mil (cough SWTOR.. cough)

    Think about that for a minute.

     

    Now tell me a single company/investors that are going to front that kind of an investment for *art* and not profit.

    Anet is a business, and every business has one simple goal - to make money and be as profitable as possible. 

    Sure Anet has developers and employees who do a great job and are proud of their games - but if all the employees were working there for no cash to make art - there would be no GW2 - EVER

    So Anet (as a company) is only in it for the money - but I am sure that many employees enjoy working there, but still money is a primary motivator as they need to support their families.

     

     

     i never stated in my post that money is NOT important....all i wanted to say is the following:

    Can you realy say these guys dont have a passion for making games?? can you??

    I love my job to death, but i also need to feed myself and my cat (the GF works for her food :p hehe)....Anet is no different.

    imho Anet realy had made this game with alot of passion for gaming itself (this can not be sayd about EA games for exsample, there games are as shallow as they can get lately).

    So i dont mind that they think about the money (they should as a company or they will go broke and quit).

    But people stating that Anet is in this ONLY for the money obviously dont see the love that went into making this game and are just full of it imho.

     

     

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  • RogueTroopaRogueTroopa SheffieldPosts: 147Member

    If they care so much about making Art and not a profit then I want my money back. I paid £45 for a repetitive yawnfest. Refund me now and all will be forgiven.

     

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