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Guild Wars 2 soon gets tedious and boring

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  • RecoreRecore Posts: 5,098Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by sirchive

    I have to agree with the OP on this.

    There's something about the GW2 world that simply feels dull. Sure, it's very pretty in a artificial sort of way. The lighting and the world construction feel very awkward. And there's nothing that feels epic, nothing that feels dangerous and nothing that feels unknown.

    The single most disappointing thing for me is that you don't have to explore for anything. All the locations just pop up on your map when you enter an area. This really shows how dumbed-down MMOs have become.

    When you zoom out on the world map GW2 looks like the ultimate expression of the theme-park. Every zone is a little rectangle and they all fit together. It could be designed by Disney - look there's Nornland, hey there's Treeland over there, let's go visit.

     

     

    Totally agree with everything you said. This game is just does not feel like a mmo at all. Combat is probaly the worst part of this game. If you melee just circle the mob and use your skills. If you are ranged just back pedal and fire away. Thats all there is to it.

    Raptr Gamercard
  • rutaqrutaq somerville, MAPosts: 428Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Eir_S
    Originally posted by SaunZ

    my advisor is a very sweet, nice guy.  you don't have to be critical of him or mean to me just because of an opinion. 

    geez

     

    SZ

    It sounds like neither of you have played the game, so yes there is reason enough to be critical.  I like how everyone takes a wait and see approach on a buy to play game when they're happy to buy single player titles that can be completed in a week.  It makes no sense, but then again, neither does not thinking for yourself.

     

     

    LoL, is your faith shaken so easily ?

     

    So a person determines that the new Hyped game isn't for them and you call them out ?  

    She replies like an adult and you continue ???

     Whats next ... do you label her a Heretic ?

    GW2 fanaticism is becoming like Scientology,  the next step is to sue people that reveal what a medicore game is behind all the Hype.

     

     

  • RyowulfRyowulf Greensburg, PAPosts: 668Member Uncommon

    I'm calling GW2 a success and by that I mean A'net will be happy with how it does,  but its going to be a number of months before we find out.

    The things is, to those who say they don't like it. Do they like mmos in general? What is a game they do like. What are they holding up saying, "This is a better mmo."

    For me even if there was an mmo that was a bit better, if I had to pay a sub, I'd probably stay with GW2. 

  • Deto123Deto123 Kelowna, BCPosts: 689Member
    Originally posted by Ryowulf

    I'm calling GW2 a success and by that I mean A'net will be happy with how it does,  but its going to be a number of months before we find out.

    The things is, to those who say they don't like it. Do they like mmos in general? What is a game they do like. What are they holding up saying, "This is a better mmo."

    For me even if there was an mmo that was a bit better, if I had to pay a sub, I'd probably stay with GW2. 

    FFXI, DAOC, EQ2, Rift, etc etc. I pay a sub for 3 of those, and another is one of my all time faves, I had no problem paying a sub for. I would never pay a sub for GW2, it s just not worth it,  IMO.

    I can guess alot of you wouldn t pay a sub for it either, that had no problem paying a sub for before.

  • red_cruiserred_cruiser Milwaukee, WIPosts: 472Member Uncommon
    For me, Guild Wars 2 got tedious and boring .  There are alot of things that are interesting and really well done in Guild Wars 2, but the combat system and the class system are only breaking even, and to me, those are the two most important things.  It's a good game, but it's not leading any MMORPG revolution, that's for sure.
  • kol56kol56 gbfbfg, KYPosts: 124Member

    Why is it that everytime a new hyped big thing is released, people start acting like 10 year olds on a sugar rush?

     

    It's a casual themepark meant as a second MMO when your main MMO gets boring..... why would anyone expect more than that is beyond me.

    Everything in the game screams "1 hour a week fun", soft grouping, no group roles, "join and pwn a few noobzors" PVP, "endgame starts at lvl 1" (which means no endgame & no goals, it's not like this MMO is a sandbox... it's a themepark... a themepark without endgame.... uhhh yeah im max level, now what? ohhhhh so doing more of the same.... great)

    "Dogs are the leaders of the planet. If you see two life forms, one of them's making a poop, the other one's carrying it for him, who would you assume is in charge."

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  • RyowulfRyowulf Greensburg, PAPosts: 668Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Deto123
    Originally posted by Ryowulf

    I'm calling GW2 a success and by that I mean A'net will be happy with how it does,  but its going to be a number of months before we find out.

    The things is, to those who say they don't like it. Do they like mmos in general? What is a game they do like. What are they holding up saying, "This is a better mmo."

    For me even if there was an mmo that was a bit better, if I had to pay a sub, I'd probably stay with GW2. 

    FFXI, DAOC, EQ2, Rift, etc etc. I pay a sub for 3 of those, and another is one of my all time faves, I had no problem paying a sub for. I would never pay a sub for GW2, it s just not worth it,  IMO.

    I can guess alot of you wouldn t pay a sub for it either, that had no problem paying a sub for before.

    EQ2 is tedious and boring if any mmo has been and one I made the mistake to sub to when it first came out. Crafting in EQ2 can handly be called fun. Its done so well its gone free to play.

    I don't dislike Rifts, but I enjoy GW2 more.

    I subbed to a lot of games back then, including SWG. Even had a sony station pass. Then after being disappoited time and again by these games I woke up and stopped wasting my money.

  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer ChairPosts: 5,596Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Calhoun619
    Originally posted by RogueTroopa

    I've tried to like this game. Personally the only reason it will succeed is because there's no sub. If there was it would soon end up like SWTOR, Tera and Rift.

    The combat system isn't good. Too dam fiddly having to constantly use the right mouse button to turn yourself around. It breaks combat. Just plain annoying.

     

     

     

     Stopped reading right there. I use mouse turning in every mmo I play. I guess you want that good ol' stand still doing nothing but click on target then push buttons combat.

    WoW is that way.

    If you didn't feel the post was worth reading, why did you fee it was worth posting to?

  • KabaalKabaal Edinburgh, ScotlandPosts: 3,012Member Uncommon

    I guess i'm one of the few who are thoroughly enjoying the game.

     

    I'm away from home for a couple of days and itching to get back and play some more.

  • NildenNilden null, NBPosts: 1,284Member Uncommon
    You can't generalize something that is a personal threshold. Some people might consider the game tedious and boring in 5 minutes others 5 days yet even more 5 months and some never get bored of it.

    How to post links.

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  • Eir_SEir_S Argyle, NYPosts: 4,623Member
    Originally posted by nilden
    You can't generalize something that is a personal threshold. Some people might consider the game tedious and boring in 5 minutes others 5 days yet even more 5 months and some never get bored of it.

    Yeah I laugh at how some people are acting like this has never happened in any game before.  It reminds me of my best friend who logged thousands of hours into GW1 and I could barely stand logging in dozens.  Everybody's different, but these threads are all the same.

  • KhinRuniteKhinRunite ManilaPosts: 879Member
    Originally posted by hikaru77
    Originally posted by CristianCeo

    Than go back and kill ten rats!

    Seriously you are overreacting. I'm lvl 42 and i'm having a blast!! The only thing that bugs me is the TP :(

    Lol, you have exactly the same Kill X and Collect X on gw2, what are you talking about?. But even when people dont want to admit it and they are just ignoring the problem, GW2 is repetitive, im almost 40 too, and i found that the events are pretty much the same, u are allways doing the same ¨quest¨ with different mobs or zones but is allways the same thing that you did before, literally, and it happen the same thing with the storyline, i mean u clean or defend  a town from Centaurs, then Undead, then Charrs, and repeat with the next type of NPC on the list.  At some point the game get into a mindless grind, like any other MMO before, the secret is about play the game for what it is,  a casual MMO. 

    Another secret is to appreciate its presentation. You may still be killing and gathering stuff in this game, but this time, refusing to do those tasks asked of you have consequences. It affects your access to waypoints and vendors, for example.

    ANY person I see who complains that in this game he's still KILLING, LOOTING, DELIVERING stuff is not really complaining about the game. It's safer to say that he's tired of themepark MMOs. Maybe he wants building stuff. Maybe he wants in-game politics. Apparently the things he's looking for do not exist in this game he's complaining about.

    On a sidenote to the OP: you didn't like the platforming elements in the game?

  • grimalgrimal Stamford, CTPosts: 2,874Member Uncommon

    OP -

    EVERYTHING gets tedious and boring if done in excess.  This applies to everything: love, drugs, games, everything.

    Personally, I love The Godfather and consider it the greatest film ever made.  However, I can't watch it over and over.  Why?  For the same reason I stated above.

    People have become way too hard to please these days.  If you haven't liked a single MMO to launch this year for the reasons stated before, most likely you are overindulging in them.

    I've played every major MMO release this year and I've enjoyed every single one of them.  They were all great in their specific ways.  TOR, Tera, TSW, GW2...all brought something new and something worthwhile and gave me hours and hours of enjoyment.  When I find I am starting to get bored of that game, I move on.

    Please please please don't confuse burn-out due to excessive consumption with bad game design.  And if you do, I'd suggest taking a break or moving on to something else for a while.

    Edit: Games are a hobby, a pastime.  Don't replace your life with one.  When you do, they stop being fun.

  • Mors-SubitaMors-Subita montreal, QCPosts: 500Member
    Originally posted by RogueTroopa

    I've tried to like this game. Personally the only reason it will succeed is because there's no sub. If there was it would soon end up like SWTOR, Tera and Rift.

    The combat system isn't good. Too dam fiddly having to constantly use the right mouse button to turn yourself around.

    If only they did what every other MMO does and followed the convention instead of using the pesky right mouse button to turn the character(sorry about the /sarcasm, but really? This is the way it works in pretty much EVERY MMO)

     It breaks combat. 

    Yeah, no... How would you like to turn? You are welcome to use the arrow keys while the rest of us run circles around you.

    Just plain annoying. Even the combat for each class gets tedious after awhile. For example firing a rifle being blown backwards is a good novelty but after a dozen or so times its irritating.

    Then maybe that weapon set or even that class are not for you. EVERY class in the game gets a huge selection of skills, and if you get tired of one just switch.  The same class can play entirely different just by switching weapons... In some case to such an extent that it is almost entirely a new class.

    Dynamic Events get more and more repetitive.  Am sick to death of escorting quests. Really do we have to escort people at least ten times in every zone? Its designed as a clever timesink to make you feel you progress at a slow pace. Even if its nott escort, its kill a thousand centaurs, bandits, worms. YAWN AND MORE YAWN.

    Ok, you don't want to kill, and you don't want to escort... I am assuming you have the same problem with the quests that send you to collect items or to interact with points...

    So just to be clear. You don't want to escort an NPC. You don't want to kill monsters. You don't want to collect items. What exactly do you want? What would you like to see in a quest? Hey, I know... lets have a staring contest quest... Everyone click on the NPC and then go AFK, and the person who is AFK longest wins? I mean, really. If you eliminate killing things, escorts, and collecting items... what else can you do? Well, there is a third one, the pure dialog based ones(i.e. the raven riddle challenge, or the riddle challenge with the kids, etc) but those are relatively few, and personally I wouldn't like if the entire game was those.

    Personal Story- Even more tiresome quests which involved escorting or saving someone. More bandits and centaurs. Great.

    Wow... ok, firstly see above re: dynamic events. Second of all, I have played all the races at least to lvl 15, and the personal stories are much more varied than that. Tell me, which order did you choose? If you chose the order of whispers you are doing things like breaking into a base(subduing guards without killing them), forging documents, and being generally sneaky. If you chose the vigil, yeah you are going to be fighting waves of people and participating in tournaments and escorting... Cause guess what, they are a military organization. Which race did you choose to assist once you joined your order? If you chose the skritt, you are going to be doing missions that involve stealing things and sneaking around, after all they are freaking scavengers. If you chose the Hylek, you are going to be fighting a lot more...

    And again, if you don't like escort missions, killing things, or gathering things... what would you like to see in their place?

    Gear- Can buy stuff with karma or pick up off the odd random mob. Most of the karma vendors don't have much and the majority of loot you pick is crafting stuff. Yawn another timesink.

    Gear drops frequently in the game, Gear is given as rewards (in chests) for completing puzzles and group events, Gear is available from heart merchants at your level(and is usually good enough if you can't find anything better), Gear is being sold(in chat right now, since AH is sporadic... but that will be fixed soon enough), Gear is awarded for your personal story... How would you like them to handle gear? Just automatically mail it to you every time you level?

    The World- Didn't get a feeling of OMG this is epic.  Where's the decent music scores in this game? Cities are instanced nuff said.

    The cities are huge and there is epic stuff in them, but apart from that they are... Cities. As for the rest of the game, this one seems like personal taste, so I am not going to argue. You don't feel it is epic, I am sorry you feel that way. Personally, based on the rest of what you wrote 'I FEEL' that you probably haven't put much attention into the game, so have probably overlooked most of what everyone else has found.

    Replayability value- the thought of getting to even level 30, then re-rolling and going through the dynamic event system again makes me feel nauseous. zerg fests of button mashing in every zone is not my idea of fun.

    If you are mashing buttons, you are doing it wrong.

    The zerg is already dying out as people have dispersed throughout the game. Taking the experience of dumping everyone who was starting into the starting zones at the same time as the experience for the whole game is unreasonable. If that is all you experienced, how much of the game did you actually play?

     

     

     

     

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  • LethalJaxxLethalJaxx NijmegenPosts: 105Member
    The OP is someone who likes to stand in one place, spam 1,2,3,4,5 for a few hours and call it a night. No, GW2 is not for you.
  • DjildjameshDjildjamesh maasdijkPosts: 406Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by RogueTroopa

    I've tried to like this game. Personally the only reason it will succeed is because there's no sub. If there was it would soon end up like SWTOR, Tera and Rift.

    The combat system isn't good. Too dam fiddly having to constantly use the right mouse button to turn yourself around. It breaks combat. Just plain annoying. Even the combat for each class gets tedious after awhile. For example firing a rifle being blown backwards is a good novelty but after a dozen or so times its irritating.

    Dynamic Events get more and more repetitive.  Am sick to death of escorting quests. Really do we have to escort people at least ten times in every zone? Its designed as a clever timesink to make you feel you progress at a slow pace. Even if its nott escort, its kill a thousand centaurs, bandits, worms. YAWN AND MORE YAWN.

    Personal Story- Even more tiresome quests which involved escorting or saving someone. More bandits and centaurs. Great. 

    Gear- Can buy stuff with karma or pick up off the odd random mob. Most of the karma vendors don't have much and the majority of loot you pick is crafting stuff. Yawn another timesink.

    The World- Didn't get a feeling of OMG this is epic.  Where's the decent music scores in this game? Cities are instanced nuff said.

    Replayability value- the thought of getting to even level 30, then re-rolling and going through the dynamic event system again makes me feel nauseous. zerg fests of button mashing in every zone is not my idea of fun.

    tbh,

    I don't think it's the game,

    i think it's you being fed up with MMORPG's.

    sorry

  • someforumguysomeforumguy HomePosts: 3,540Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by SaunZ

    i never dreamed i would be attacked for getting advise.

     

    SZ

    You are not being attacked for that. But for your hearsay , generalising and assumptions. And your opinion which is basically your advisor's opinion. Which kind of makes you the spokesperson of your own advisor. But I don't mind all that.

    What I do wonder is on which shoulder your advisor sits when it whispers in your ear.

  • RogueTroopaRogueTroopa SheffieldPosts: 147Member

    The game is about as interesting as trainspotting. But at least you kids are having fun doing the same repetitive rubbish all over again. Only this time its got a Klingon Bird of Prey cloak to mask the underlining 'kill ten rats' quest.

    People will enjoy anything nowadays. The zerg is hip.

     

    Land of AKA Godzilla with Wifey

  • GamerUntouchGamerUntouch smithville ON, ONPosts: 488Member
    Originally posted by RogueTroopa

    The game is about as interesting as trainspotting. But at least you kids are having fun doing the same repetitive rubbish all over again. Only this time its got a Klingon Bird of Prey cloak to mask the underlining 'kill ten rats' quest.

    People will enjoy anything nowadays. The zerg is hip.

     

    Why are you angry that people disagree with you?

     

    It's making your stance very unreliable.

  • RogueTroopaRogueTroopa SheffieldPosts: 147Member
    Originally posted by GamerUntouch
    Originally posted by RogueTroopa

    The game is about as interesting as trainspotting. But at least you kids are having fun doing the same repetitive rubbish all over again. Only this time its got a Klingon Bird of Prey cloak to mask the underlining 'kill ten rats' quest.

    People will enjoy anything nowadays. The zerg is hip.

     

    Why are you angry that people disagree with you?

     

    It's making your stance very unreliable.

    Show me this anger i apparently have?  I'm simply saying the game is rubbish.

    Land of AKA Godzilla with Wifey

  • KhinRuniteKhinRunite ManilaPosts: 879Member
    Originally posted by RogueTroopa
    Originally posted by GamerUntouch
    Originally posted by RogueTroopa

    The game is about as interesting as trainspotting. But at least you kids are having fun doing the same repetitive rubbish all over again. Only this time its got a Klingon Bird of Prey cloak to mask the underlining 'kill ten rats' quest.

    People will enjoy anything nowadays. The zerg is hip.

     

    Why are you angry that people disagree with you?

     

    It's making your stance very unreliable.

    Show me this anger i apparently have?  I'm simply saying the game is rubbish.

    You were rather derogatory labeling any and all who enjoy this game as "kids". There's also a huge difference between what you just said and simply calling the game rubbish.

    Just answering your question.

  • RogueTroopaRogueTroopa SheffieldPosts: 147Member
    Originally posted by KhinRunite
    Originally posted by RogueTroopa
    Originally posted by GamerUntouch
    Originally posted by RogueTroopa

    The game is about as interesting as trainspotting. But at least you kids are having fun doing the same repetitive rubbish all over again. Only this time its got a Klingon Bird of Prey cloak to mask the underlining 'kill ten rats' quest.

    People will enjoy anything nowadays. The zerg is hip.

     

    Why are you angry that people disagree with you?

     

    It's making your stance very unreliable.

    Show me this anger i apparently have?  I'm simply saying the game is rubbish.

    You were rather derogatory labeling any and all who enjoy this game as "kids". There's also a huge difference between what you just said and simply calling the game rubbish.

    Just answering your question.

    You've answered nothing. Being perceived as rather derogatory doesn't mean I have anger issues. 

    Land of AKA Godzilla with Wifey

  • KhinRuniteKhinRunite ManilaPosts: 879Member
    Originally posted by RogueTroopa
    Originally posted by KhinRunite
    Originally posted by RogueTroopa
    Originally posted by GamerUntouch
    Originally posted by RogueTroopa

    The game is about as interesting as trainspotting. But at least you kids are having fun doing the same repetitive rubbish all over again. Only this time its got a Klingon Bird of Prey cloak to mask the underlining 'kill ten rats' quest.

    People will enjoy anything nowadays. The zerg is hip.

     

    Why are you angry that people disagree with you?

     

    It's making your stance very unreliable.

    Show me this anger i apparently have?  I'm simply saying the game is rubbish.

    You were rather derogatory labeling any and all who enjoy this game as "kids". There's also a huge difference between what you just said and simply calling the game rubbish.

    Just answering your question.

    You've answered nothing. Being perceived as rather derogatory doesn't mean I have anger issues. 

    The person assumed you were angry because of you being derogatory at that point. Hey if that's you being calm then fine.

  • zmortiszmortis Philippi, WVPosts: 152Member

    RogueTroopa is of course entitled to like or not like whatever games he chooses. I think he has plainly stated his reasons for not likeing GW2.

     

    The next step is for RogueTroopa to find a game he actually does like, and play it. Wasting time and energy on a game he doesn't enjoy seems like a futile effort after placing a basic statement of what he found wanting in the game. So far I've been having fun playing GW2 like I've had fun playing many MMORPGs before it. When the fun wears off like it has for every MMORPG I've played before I will simply move on without complaint about the game itself. The problem I have is that I'm always looking forward to the next fun thing, and as a result I rarely stay with any kind of computer game longer than three months.

     

    This isn't a condemnation of any particular game (although a few genuine bad games do exist), but a realization of my own inconstant nature. I would think it is very possible that RogueTroopa has a similar issue except he chooses to blame the game for failing to hold his wandering interest. The only way to have the perfect game is to build what you like yourself. Too many people project their hopes and desires onto the marketing copy for a game without understanding what the game is actually going to provide.

     

    For me, I'm just looking for a place to group up with a couple of friends, roll through the content for a while, and to shoot the breeze about what is happening around us. When that no longer entertains, then I'll move onto a single player RPG, or FPS, or other form of entertainment.

     

    So to break it down, there is nothing wrong with GW2. It works as designed. Either you like the design or you don't like the design. It is an MMORPG. Nothing more, and yet nothing less. It has its own quirks, and it doesn't re-invent the entire genre of fantasy in a mind blowing way. Wasting time hating on it is just that - a waste of time. A constructive critique of why it isn't the type of game someone prefers is fine, but anything beyond a constructive critique is not necessary for the people who are enjoying it.

     

    Pretty simple isn't it.

  • MothurMothur BoxtelPosts: 19Member

    I completely disagree; I think the combat is fine as it is, being a mesmer I have to use dodging techniques to prevent from being torn apart. The dynamic events are great, and far better than kill x monsters, grab x bags. The personal story is where this game really excells, I like the missions and the talking about as much as in any singleplayer rpg game. And you're saying the world ain't epic? Open your eyes and ears :)

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