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Guild Wars 2 soon gets tedious and boring

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  • GrintchGrintch Member UncommonPosts: 132
    IMO. There will probably be more posts like this after the cheaters were banned. Don't know if he was banned or not but they will start negative posts just for spite.
  • OmnifishOmnifish Member Posts: 616
    Originally posted by Seunlau

     

    Simply put, before GW2 Was released, 80% of the people on mmorpg.com could easily imagine paying a monthly fee for GW2 when it was released. After visiting tons of hyped topics, reviews and "GW2 is the real thing". People got brainwashed, simple as that.

    But things have changed now, people are back on earth again. And how do I know that? Because those 80% of the people on mmorpg.com TODAY (few days after the release) could still play GW2 BUT NOT imagine paying a monthly fee for GW2. I agree that 80% might be an overkill but dont tell me that 50% isn't already down on earth already?

    Mmorpg.com is one of the most Hyped GW2 forums with alot of players. If Its negative here, then it won't do any better in the rest of the forums online. It says itself, GW2 is losing people already.

    Long story short, the remaining players in GW2 are being nervous, visiting these topics and creating new topics to get rid of their bad feeling "Damn, I bought GW2 but Its fun, ITS FUN... right?" Sooner or later though, they will be able to let go of those dollars and get down to earth which makes us a total of 50% determined dislikes on GW2.

    2012-09-02 mark my words, in about 10 days GW2 will be in WAR at this forums. Its very easy to see already.

    PS :I love being a realist, but sometimes I like fantasy too :)

     

    Best regards

     

    I don't think it will fall that quickly, but you can see what your saying in the numerous, 'defence', responses from people who post threads and bought the hype. generated on these boards, and now are disapointed that GW2 isn't the game changer people here championed.

    The truth for me is that I never really saw GW2 as being hugely different from many of it's competitors.  Sure they have implemented some common sense things, the classes play uniquely, (although unbalanced still), amongst some other things.

    But really how you get the content isn't hugely different then before.  Your still going to areas killing things, escorting people, picking things up, you have to be okay with that, otherwise you'll get fed up quickly.  Also unless your following a zerg herd things slow down quickly, especially if no events are spawning.  Kessex Hills was a nightmare for me, getting from lv17-20. I ended up having to replay centaur invasions about ten times for the xp required for the later stuff in the zone.  Later I realised I should of gone to Braindon Hills(?), but I couldn't help but feel there was a content gap there.

    I'm fine with all that though, I am enjoying myself for now and I doubt when I stop playing I'll feel, 'let down'.  It's all about managing expectations I guess :)

    This looks like a job for....The Riviera Kid!

  • FelixMajorFelixMajor Member RarePosts: 865
    Originally posted by RogueTroopa

    I've tried to like this game. Personally the only reason it will succeed is because there's no sub. If there was it would soon end up like SWTOR, Tera and Rift.

    The combat system isn't good. Too dam fiddly having to constantly use the right mouse button to turn yourself around. It breaks combat. Just plain annoying. Even the combat for each class gets tedious after awhile. For example firing a rifle being blown backwards is a good novelty but after a dozen or so times its irritating.

    Dynamic Events get more and more repetitive.  Am sick to death of escorting quests. Really do we have to escort people at least ten times in every zone? Its designed as a clever timesink to make you feel you progress at a slow pace. Even if its nott escort, its kill a thousand centaurs, bandits, worms. YAWN AND MORE YAWN.

    Personal Story- Even more tiresome quests which involved escorting or saving someone. More bandits and centaurs. Great. 

    Gear- Can buy stuff with karma or pick up off the odd random mob. Most of the karma vendors don't have much and the majority of loot you pick is crafting stuff. Yawn another timesink.

    The World- Didn't get a feeling of OMG this is epic.  Where's the decent music scores in this game? Cities are instanced nuff said.

    Replayability value- the thought of getting to even level 30, then re-rolling and going through the dynamic event system again makes me feel nauseous. zerg fests of button mashing in every zone is not my idea of fun.

     

     

     

    You make me feel nauseous.

    Originally posted by Arskaaa
    "when players learned tacticks in dungeon/raids, its bread".

  • AdiarisAdiaris Member CommonPosts: 381
    Originally posted by Piiritus
    Originally posted by Adiaris
    Originally posted by Piiritus
    I take GW2 as a side game and it fills that slot for me well imho. Would not pay monthly for it but considering it does not have sub it's a great entertainment.

    This is the kind of comment I don't get. What game WOULD you pay monthly for then???

    TSW for example. I love TSW story, quests, dialogue and many mor things. In fact after playing for couple of weeks I bought my first and probably last lifetime. GW2 is a fun game and I like it but I have to skip all dialogue in it because it's atrocious imo. Feels like written by 12 years old for 12 years old. Had to delete my first toon, human necro, because he was so good I got sick. At least Norn have nice viking setting whicks is bearable. Still, gameplay feels good and it's fun except that crazy camera they have.

    Lol. Not laughing because you like TSW but because you bought a lifetime sub. That was brave given funcom's current status.

    I absolutely love the Gw2 stories, cutscenes and dialogue. They're short, optional, and involve choices. TSW I found the writing was decent (if trying too hard, sort of like a paperback novelists first attempt), the setting badly executed, and the cutscenes absolutely atrocious and far too drawn out.

    so i guess to each their own ;)

  • FelixMajorFelixMajor Member RarePosts: 865
    Originally posted by Adiaris
    Originally posted by Piiritus
    Originally posted by Adiaris
    Originally posted by Piiritus
    I take GW2 as a side game and it fills that slot for me well imho. Would not pay monthly for it but considering it does not have sub it's a great entertainment.

    This is the kind of comment I don't get. What game WOULD you pay monthly for then???

    TSW for example. I love TSW story, quests, dialogue and many mor things. In fact after playing for couple of weeks I bought my first and probably last lifetime. GW2 is a fun game and I like it but I have to skip all dialogue in it because it's atrocious imo. Feels like written by 12 years old for 12 years old. Had to delete my first toon, human necro, because he was so good I got sick. At least Norn have nice viking setting whicks is bearable. Still, gameplay feels good and it's fun except that crazy camera they have.

    Lol. Not laughing because you like TSW but because you bought a lifetime sub. That was brave given funcom's current status.

    I absolutely love the Gw2 stories, cutscenes and dialogue. They're short, optional, and involve choices. TSW I found the writing was decent (if trying too hard, sort of like a paperback novelists first attempt), the setting badly executed, and the cutscenes absolutely atrocious and far too drawn out.

    so i guess to each their own ;)

    TSW made me nauseous.

    Originally posted by Arskaaa
    "when players learned tacticks in dungeon/raids, its bread".

  • Eir_SEir_S Member UncommonPosts: 4,440
    Originally posted by coretex666
    Originally posted by Eir_S
    No, what's getting tedious and boring are threads like these.  Good luck finding an MMO that's worth the price to you.  Personally, I don't think you're going to like the direction the genre is heading, and that goes for a lot of other people who I think honestly are NEVER going to be satisfied and just keep hoping for something that won't happen.  

    What is the direction?

    I am quite puzzled about any kind of direction the genre is heading, so I would like to hear someone else's opinion. Seeing that you mentioned that, I consider it to be a good opportunity to ask since it seems that you have some kind of idea.

     

    Well I can't predict the future - I probably should have said he won't like the very infrequent and small changes made to the genre, because if you don't care for GW2 or most of the MMOs before it, I fail to see how anything on the horizon is going to change that, but since I brought it up, I think that if anything the devs will start adopting more variety like downscaling, and even going so far as to make it optional or have some servers downscaled and others not so that there is no more "Vanilla was better because it was harder" complaints.  At least, that's what I'd like to happen.  It's inevitable that companies will do what ANet did and try to mix it up a little.

  • SaunZSaunZ Member UncommonPosts: 472

    The negative posts are REALLY starting to stack up.  They have succeeded in scaring me off from this game... which makes me feel SO guilty.  I wish I could be more brave but, it looks like a lot of people are starting to think they were duped.

    I was advised to give it a month or two before buying and see how people still felt about it then... but... it seems they are turning faster then my advisor thought.

    oh my...

     

    SZ

  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,838
    The pve is a grind that get boring quick. The WvW and Spvp are really good, and  worth the price of the box.  If I could not level in WvW, I wouldn't make it past level 30.
    "We see fundamentals and we ape in"
  • Eir_SEir_S Member UncommonPosts: 4,440
    Originally posted by SaunZ

    The negative posts are REALLY starting to stack up.  They have succeeded in scaring me off from this game... which makes me feel SO guilty.  I wish I could be more brave but, it looks like a lot of people are starting to think they were duped.

    I was advised to give it a month or two before buying and see how people still felt about it then... but... it seems they are turning faster then my advisor thought.

    oh my...

     

    SZ

    Do you have an "advisor" for every game you buy?  And you do realize that almost all of the people that have criticized the game in the past week are people that were already doing it before launch, right?  Ask your advisor to think that one out for you.  The MMORPG.com forums are hardly indicative of a real problem, nor real success, no matter how you slice it or who's doing the slicing.

  • SaunZSaunZ Member UncommonPosts: 472

    my advisor is a very sweet, nice guy.  you don't have to be critical of him or mean to me just because of an opinion. 

    geez

     

    SZ

  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,838
    Originally posted by SaunZ

    The negative posts are REALLY starting to stack up.  They have succeeded in scaring me off from this game... which makes me feel SO guilty.  I wish I could be more brave but, it looks like a lot of people are starting to think they were duped.

    I was advised to give it a month or two before buying and see how people still felt about it then... but... it seems they are turning faster then my advisor thought.

    oh my...

     

    SZ

    If you love PvP buy the game. If you are the "I don't pvp" type, then you probably should be wary.

    "We see fundamentals and we ape in"
  • RogueTroopaRogueTroopa Member Posts: 147

    Lol at some of the fanboy replies. I logged in today with some mates. My first dynamic event was another epic escorting a mule to another town. Seriously we were bored to death after a minute lol. And more of the darn centaurs. The second one I found in a cave spawning bandits every millisecond. Go kill a leader on top of a rock. You could even pick up a big bomb. Seriously made for 2 year olds but I suppose if you like this stuff then who am I to argue.

    and finally the cherry on the cake was killing some harpies near a dam. I tried my personal story but to my horror found I had to escort another mule with centaurs attacking. 

    If the masses can be pleased this easy I think I'll make myself a new mmo. I'll have a trynamic event system. It will be epic and awesome.

    Land of AKA Godzilla with Wifey

  • Kram59Kram59 Member Posts: 153
    Are you kidding me??? I stopped reading this after I got to TCTC and Calerxes on the first page. They demand the op say imo. Are you joking? Every word that is posted here is imo. Besides, if one person likes a game and another doesn’t, who gives a crap? Ever since Dark Age of Camilot all games are exactly the same. imo
     
     
    Game till you bleed

    King of the world

  • Eir_SEir_S Member UncommonPosts: 4,440
    Originally posted by SaunZ

    my advisor is a very sweet, nice guy.  you don't have to be critical of him or mean to me just because of an opinion. 

    geez

     

    SZ

    It sounds like neither of you have played the game, so yes there is reason enough to be critical.  I like how everyone takes a wait and see approach on a buy to play game when they're happy to buy single player titles that can be completed in a week.  It makes no sense, but then again, neither does not thinking for yourself.

  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by Eir_S
    Originally posted by SaunZ

    The negative posts are REALLY starting to stack up.  They have succeeded in scaring me off from this game... which makes me feel SO guilty.  I wish I could be more brave but, it looks like a lot of people are starting to think they were duped.

    I was advised to give it a month or two before buying and see how people still felt about it then... but... it seems they are turning faster then my advisor thought.

    oh my...

     

    SZ

    Do you have an "advisor" for every game you buy?  And you do realize that almost all of the people that have criticized the game in the past week are people that were already doing it before launch, right?  Ask your advisor to think that one out for you.  The MMORPG.com forums are hardly indicative of a real problem.

    ^ look around at the several "I'm sorry I was wrong posts" for GW2 then look around at the negative posts and look at their post histories, they are extremely negative on pretty much every single MMO out there(aside from their one go to one of course).. why they hang around these forums or this site at all is a mystery to me. Not everyone is going to like another high fantasy themepark but honestly I can't remember a MMO I have enjoyed this much in the past 8 years.

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • kabitoshinkabitoshin Member UncommonPosts: 854
    Originally posted by bcbully
    The pve is a grind that get boring quick. The WvW and Spvp are really good, and  worth the price of the box.  If I could not level in WvW, I wouldn't make it past level 30.

    If you find this boring, then you probably never made it far in an MMO. Just about every MMO I've tried is way more boring and faceroll easy. Then again you probably are a PvP person.

  • Eir_SEir_S Member UncommonPosts: 4,440
    Originally posted by RogueTroopa

    I think I'll make myself a new mmo.

    I think that's the only way most people will be fully satisfied, but you don't seem to appreciate how much effort and work it takes and how poorly your own ideas might translate to an MMO, no matter how good they seem to you at the time.  I'll reserve 60 bucks for your creation though out of good faith. ;)

  • SaunZSaunZ Member UncommonPosts: 472

    i never dreamed i would be attacked for getting advise.

     

    SZ

  • RogueTroopaRogueTroopa Member Posts: 147
    Originally posted by Eir_S
    Originally posted by RogueTroopa

    I think I'll make myself a new mmo.

    I think that's the only way most people will be fully satisfied, but you don't seem to appreciate how much effort and work it takes and how poorly your own ideas might translate to an MMO, no matter how good they seem to you at the time.  I'll reserve 60 bucks for your creation though out of good faith. ;)

    For a start no more escorting mules and centaurs wil be banished forever

    Land of AKA Godzilla with Wifey

  • NBlitzNBlitz Member Posts: 1,904
    Originally posted by SaunZ

    The negative posts are REALLY starting to stack up.  They have succeeded in scaring me off from this game... which makes me feel SO guilty.  I wish I could be more brave but, it looks like a lot of people are starting to think they were duped.

    I was advised to give it a month or two before buying and see how people still felt about it then... but... it seems they are turning faster then my advisor thought.

    oh my...

     

    SZ

    I thought this was common knowledge.

    Even WoW, indisputably the most succesful P2P game of our generation only ever had a retention rate around 30% for people playing past level 10 (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.174642-Only-30-Percent-of-WoW-Players-Get-Past-Level-10#4922111). I think one could use the same stats for any other title, especially the newest ones.

    If a game's retention rate is around 30-50% then the game was a success.

    In that light, I've always said to wait around 3 months before jumping into an MMO, if in doubt. Or to wait for trials to become available.

  • OmnifishOmnifish Member Posts: 616
    Originally posted by Eir_S
    Originally posted by SaunZ

    The negative posts are REALLY starting to stack up.  They have succeeded in scaring me off from this game... which makes me feel SO guilty.  I wish I could be more brave but, it looks like a lot of people are starting to think they were duped.

    I was advised to give it a month or two before buying and see how people still felt about it then... but... it seems they are turning faster then my advisor thought.

    oh my...

     

    SZ

    Do you have an "advisor" for every game you buy?  And you do realize that almost all of the people that have criticized the game in the past week are people that were already doing it before launch, right?  Ask your advisor to think that one out for you.  The MMORPG.com forums are hardly indicative of a real problem, nor real success, no matter how you slice it or who's doing the slicing.

    And all of the people who are praising it unconditionally are the same people who did so before the game launched.

    If you want to bring up slicing then it really does cut both ways :)

    This looks like a job for....The Riviera Kid!

  • Eir_SEir_S Member UncommonPosts: 4,440
    Originally posted by Aerowyn

    ^ look around at the several "I'm sorry I was wrong posts" for GW2 then look around at the negative posts and look at their post histories, they are extremely negative on pretty much every single MMO out there(aside from their one go to one of course).. why they hang around these forums or this site at all is a mystery to me. Not everyone is going to like another high fantasy themepark but honestly I can't remember a MMO I have enjoyed this much in the past 8 years.

    Oh I know there have been plenty, I've actually been taken aback by some of the posters who are enjoying the game despite their previous attitudes, but the hardcore detractors will say fanbois obfuscate and ignore.... well what does THAT count as then?  The number of negative responses to GW2 itself has not gone up nor down in any obvious way, but each side wants to pretend it has.  What I don't get is, if you don't enjoy a game, what does it matter who is "with" you on your dislike?  Stand on your own.  I liked WoW for years despite my friends picking on me for it, I didn't succumb to their judgements.  Now we've got people advising other people not to play a damn video game instead of letting them try it for themselves.

    Like the Rock Paper Shotgun reviewer (I think) said "Better to get while the getting's good".  If you wait, you'll be waiting forever.

  • EvelknievelEvelknievel Member UncommonPosts: 2,964

     

    @ OP

    I do agree it's no different than the other themepark titles out there and if this game had a monthly fee players would be raging.

    The no sub fee is a excuse that players use to defend this title with it launch problems since early headstart.

    If you like the game, you will defend it since your enjoying it, however facts are facts, if there was a monthly fee attached to this game it would be just another typical thtempark mmo in which some would tire after reaching level cap and refuse to pay the additional montly fee.

    It doe's have that single player feeling, but I have grouped up plenty of times since I am playing with my coworkers, however outside of that, I havent grouped up with anyone I didn't know in the game and it does feel swtor'ish in that sense.

  • Eir_SEir_S Member UncommonPosts: 4,440
    Originally posted by Omnifish
    Originally posted by Eir_S
    Originally posted by SaunZ

    The negative posts are REALLY starting to stack up.  They have succeeded in scaring me off from this game... which makes me feel SO guilty.  I wish I could be more brave but, it looks like a lot of people are starting to think they were duped.

    I was advised to give it a month or two before buying and see how people still felt about it then... but... it seems they are turning faster then my advisor thought.

    oh my...

     

    SZ

    Do you have an "advisor" for every game you buy?  And you do realize that almost all of the people that have criticized the game in the past week are people that were already doing it before launch, right?  Ask your advisor to think that one out for you.  The MMORPG.com forums are hardly indicative of a real problem, nor real success, no matter how you slice it or who's doing the slicing.

    And all of the people who are praising it unconditionally are the same people who did so before the game launched.

    If you want to bring up slicing then it really does cut both ways :)

    Actually, no they're not.  Aerowyn and I have both noticed something you apparently haven't.  It doesn't cut both ways.  In fact, it cuts more in the favor of GW2 if you're not counting log-in issues and so-called hacking.  People who didn't expect to like the game have come out and stated that it's awesome.  I don't see much of the opposite, but hey I'll keep my eyes peeled.

  • Eir_SEir_S Member UncommonPosts: 4,440
    Originally posted by SaunZ

    i never dreamed i would be attacked for getting advise.

     

    SZ

    No one is attacking you, don't be melodramatic.

    Oh wait, I forgot that's what forums are for apparently.

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