Originally posted by Bladestrom I usually spend the night just wandering with a couple guildies and seeing where our adventures take us- good fun. There is a risk that you don't get connected with the world and that it alm feels a bit mechanical if you just plan optimal routes etc, that's a bit of a traditional end game themepark behaviour where you optimise your route because xp race is a factor.
Pretty much how me and the Girlfriend are playing. We are just going with the flow atm and see where it takes us without a thought for leveling.
Ie: Last night we did a bit of her story quest, then noticed a DE kick off to escort a caravan . So we escorted the caravan which took us to a new town. While there we thought " Hey lets talk to the craft NPC's and pick our skills " . We then preceded to head out into the World looking for Copper nodes , this in turn led us into a cave in which another DE was taking place which we stopped to help clear before returning to town with our ore.
No plan, no set route, no thought for XP or level ..... Just letting things happen around us
It's crazy how people are leveling so fast. I guess i just don't play enough like i used to. I play for around 2-3 hr sessions a day, and i'm still only lvl 29.
Originally posted by observer It's crazy how people are leveling so fast. I guess i just don't play enough like i used to. I play for around 2-3 hr sessions a day, and i'm still only lvl 29.
That's actually a pretty good rate, considering you are only playing a couple hours a day.
Once you get passed 30, you can start doing dungeons, as well. Maybe not for AC (the lvl 30 dungeon), but for CM (the lvl 40 dungeon), you can run story mode pretty easily, and it'll give you around 20,000 exp at the end of each run (on top of w/e exp you get from killing things).
Think of it this way, game's been out a week, you've only been playing a couple hours a day & you're already 1/3rd of the way done. 2 more weeks and you'll be 80. No time at all.
Played for 16 hours a day, almost any game can be leveled up fast.
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If people enjoy levelling to 80 as fast as possible then more power to them. (As long as they don't try to force that particular playstyle onto everyone else.)
Played a lot last weekend because I had the opportunity to. Overall I have played a little over 40 hours on my main and he is level 27.
I guess I am rather ineffective at levelling but who cares: I am effectively having lots of fun and with my regular schedule and 1-2 hours play pr. day this game will last me a very long time.
We dont need casuals in our games!!! Errm... Well we DO need casuals to fund and populate our games - But the games should be all about "hardcore" because: We dont need casuals in our games!!! (repeat ad infinitum)
Typically I'm the type "get end game, get gear, win quick!" but this game due to them pretty much saying it doesn't exist, I haven't bothered much. That and I just can't grind this game for that long. I'd grind another new mmo all day but this game... I just get bored of it after 2 hours or so. Doesn't matter much ,extends my play time due to not much being around at the end to work for. Makes me feel like I'm gaining something and heck, maybe I'll fall in love enough to stick for the pvp more then a rare urge.
Not sure why you're having such a hard time lvling (are you dying a lot, or just not sure what to do?). I've heard similar complaints from some of the other necros in my guild, but once they knew how to play a necro correctly they were dominating.
You're confusing xp gain with actual difficulty of the game. I don't die very often at all, there just doesn't seem to be a lot of quests to do -- unless, of course, A.net expected me to grind the same quests over and over to certain levels, which is what I am doing at the moment.
I just finished exploring the entirety of Divinity's Reach and I'm like a quarter of the xp bar away from level 10, finished all the hearts I have come across in Queensdale so far, and farthest I've travelled is to Claypool, where I trained with the Militia, which I found pretty cool.
Not confusing anything. My very first question is whether you are having trouble with difficutly, or finding enough content. I assumed you were talking about game difficulty, as your OP talks about you dying a bit. However, that's why I put the question at the top of my post.
As for not having enough stuff to do, here is a very good video that explains this: Enigmius; Leveling Too Slow?
Anet doesn't really expect you to do anything specifically. They designed the game to allow you to do a whole plethora of things, and choose what you want to do. Ultimately, aside from Personal Story, you can lvl by only doing 1 type of thing. However, that doesn't mean that it'll be enjoyable, or will be at the fastest pace. People have often asked me how I lvled so fast (which really isn't that fast, I'm only lvl 60 atm), and the answer is always 'do a bit of everything'.
Unlike most MMOs, GW2 literally rewards you for pretty much everything you do. You will generally always get a reward for doing something, provided you are actually doing something. For example; typically my mindset for this game goes as follows. I go for map completion, and I gather as many crafting nodes as I can (in the hopes that the trading post will eventually come online, so I can sell them to make some extra money). Just these two steps basically sets me up for the following:
It guaruntees I'll be going to all the hearts (which you're already doing), and it encourages me to go off the beaten path to find obscure gathering nodes (especially rich ore), which often leads to hidden puzzles / dynamic events / treasures / etc. My rule is, whenever I come across something like that, I do it (usually). Not only have I had no problems lvling this way, but I'm almost always over lvled in a zone before I finish. When I get bored, or too far ahead on lvls, I either jump into pvp for a bit, or get caught up on my personal story.
- Anyway, watch the video. It does a really good job of explaining this; and how exactly EXP gain works in GW2.
Thanks, I've actually been doing everything you've said, and I never really complained about the leveling speed. I just said that I was surprised people were leveling so fast, and I never once mentioned that I was dying a lot or anything. I think you overthought my post.
I've been exploring, crafting slightly, doing personal story, DE's, mined quite a few copper nodes, did a small amount of pvp, and got to level 10 in 2 days. I was simply pointing out that I was struggling to keep up with my Personal Story level even when doing this stuff, and peopel seem to be leveling insanely fast by comparison.
I'll check out the video, though, and see what I can learn from it.
I really don't see the point in rushing to level cap in this game, which is what I usually do. There is no gear treadmill and therefore no worry about getting 'behind'. The people rushing are still stuck in other MMO mindset and will be playing their old games again in a month.
Personally I'm finding it a real breath of fresh air that I didn't have to sit at my PC for a week straight drinking energy drinks for this MMO launch.
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Pretty much how me and the Girlfriend are playing. We are just going with the flow atm and see where it takes us without a thought for leveling.
Ie: Last night we did a bit of her story quest, then noticed a DE kick off to escort a caravan . So we escorted the caravan which took us to a new town. While there we thought " Hey lets talk to the craft NPC's and pick our skills " . We then preceded to head out into the World looking for Copper nodes , this in turn led us into a cave in which another DE was taking place which we stopped to help clear before returning to town with our ore.
No plan, no set route, no thought for XP or level ..... Just letting things happen around us
But then at max level, there still is so much adventures to do... Go back to places you havent seen before.
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That's actually a pretty good rate, considering you are only playing a couple hours a day.
Once you get passed 30, you can start doing dungeons, as well. Maybe not for AC (the lvl 30 dungeon), but for CM (the lvl 40 dungeon), you can run story mode pretty easily, and it'll give you around 20,000 exp at the end of each run (on top of w/e exp you get from killing things).
Think of it this way, game's been out a week, you've only been playing a couple hours a day & you're already 1/3rd of the way done. 2 more weeks and you'll be 80. No time at all.
If people enjoy levelling to 80 as fast as possible then more power to them. (As long as they don't try to force that particular playstyle onto everyone else.)
Played a lot last weekend because I had the opportunity to. Overall I have played a little over 40 hours on my main and he is level 27.
I guess I am rather ineffective at levelling but who cares: I am effectively having lots of fun and with my regular schedule and 1-2 hours play pr. day this game will last me a very long time.
We dont need casuals in our games!!! Errm... Well we DO need casuals to fund and populate our games - But the games should be all about "hardcore" because: We dont need casuals in our games!!!
(repeat ad infinitum)
Thanks, I've actually been doing everything you've said, and I never really complained about the leveling speed. I just said that I was surprised people were leveling so fast, and I never once mentioned that I was dying a lot or anything. I think you overthought my post.
I've been exploring, crafting slightly, doing personal story, DE's, mined quite a few copper nodes, did a small amount of pvp, and got to level 10 in 2 days. I was simply pointing out that I was struggling to keep up with my Personal Story level even when doing this stuff, and peopel seem to be leveling insanely fast by comparison.
I'll check out the video, though, and see what I can learn from it.
I really don't see the point in rushing to level cap in this game, which is what I usually do. There is no gear treadmill and therefore no worry about getting 'behind'. The people rushing are still stuck in other MMO mindset and will be playing their old games again in a month.
Personally I'm finding it a real breath of fresh air that I didn't have to sit at my PC for a week straight drinking energy drinks for this MMO launch.
Played: WoW, LotRO, AoC, WAR, Aion, Rift, SWTOR
Playing: GW2
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