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Originally posted by Gravarg I'm better than Guild Wars 2. 100% of xfire users think I'm the sexiest man alive 1% of the time
The problem with polls, xfire numbers, and anything else that doesn't consider the whole of something...It's easy to skew the numbers into whatever you want them to be. So the demographic is WoW players with Xfire that are now playing GW2...I think that's a really really small portion of the MMO market. GW2 fanatics should go into Politics, they'd do great lol
To be clear, I'm honestly not defending WoW or any other game. My argument is this :
With. Your. Data. You're. Not. Really. Saying. Much.
except that a large number of people are checking out a new release, and that happens all the time. Look how many boxes diablo3 sold. It's just as pointless of a game, really. Run around and kill stuff with a massive whine for mediocrity.
WoW was released on November 23, 2004. Makes your statement seem pretty retarded. Let's see what the numbers for GW2 look like 7-8 years from now.
Your post just screams "impulsive fanboy". Just shut up and go play.
Originally posted by Grunch Numbers don't lie.
Ok, i'll give you some numbers. I already posted something similar in another thread, but whatever.
During teh 3 day headstart, GW2's xfire numbers surpassed WOW's. We know there's less than 2 million players that pre-purchased, possibly 1.5 million.
WOW as 9 million players. We know that a great portion is in Asia of course. So, cut 5 million off and that's still 4 million. Hell make it 3 million.
Yet, while it as more players,it's xfire number is lower. So, again, expect for the fatc that xfire tracks te number os hours played for each person that as it instaled, what does it matter.
Exactly, nothing. Why can't people just wait to see the full official numbers from NCsoft? This xfire is useless and completly pointless.
Originally posted by Ocenica I never used xfire when I played WoW. Everyone that I played with in different guilds used Ventrilo and occasionally a small new guild would use Teamspeak. Not having vent would get you kicked out of raids. I doubt not having Xfire would do the same. This is comparing apples to oranges.
This is not about total population. It's about Xfire population.
Originally posted by Nikkita These Xfire topics are pointless. Comparing a game which is not even one week old with an 8 year old one and then actually gloat about it. *shakes head*
Well in WOW's case the fact it's 8 year old is not a weakness it's a strenght. Because people are less likely to leave a game where they spent thousands of dollars and years of playtime.
Of course WoW still has more players overall.
But it's interesting to see xfire trends. For example when Swtor launched it managed to get to 24% max with WOW always at 46-48%
It's kinda funny to see WOW being the second ranked mmorpg on x-fire.... that's not something you see everyday. In fact it never happened in the last years. I don't even remember if a mmorpg ever topped WOW on xfire.
Originally posted by Kaelano1 To be clear, I'm honestly not defending WoW or any other game. My argument is this : With. Your. Data. You're. Not. Really. Saying. Much.
What data? I just shoot from the hip. I haven't played GW2 or WoW or ever used Xfire. I don't even know what Xfire is.
"I'm sorry but your mmo has been diagnosed with EA and only has X number of days to live."
Originally posted by saranya what is xfire?
It's clearly a comprehensive list of every single person in the known universe and what games they play.
For the last 150 years Microsoft (in various guises such as the illuminati, the NRA and the free masons) have been secretly implanting a chip into every single child born on the planet to monitor their gaming habits, x-fire simply hacked the code.
You think your belly button is a natural formation? However, recently with gamers girth increasing these chips have receded into the flubber prison, the reliability of the signal from this flab dungeon has become somewhat intermittant, hence why many people question the validity of x-fire numbers.
Expresso gave me a Hearthstone beta key.....I'm so happy
Why is it that X-Fire is only a relevant and trustworthy source of information when it supports someone's argument?
What happens when MoP is released and WoW passes GW2? Will X-Fire go back to being that stupid thing that no one uses for even knows someone that uses it?
Originally posted by plescure http://www.xfire.com/games/# guess this why the servers are melting!
A survey indicated less than 50% of the WoW population even uses XFIRE.
Originally posted by Zinzan Originally posted by saranya what is xfire?
Haha, so true
Every big game release, someone refers to X-Fire numbers and every new game beats the others in numbers. I have never heard of anyone i've played with on planet earth even hearing of this program. I wouldn't have heard of it if not for the people on this forum.
In fact, why would anyone want additional programs running in background hogging resources just to act as a virtual stopwatch and contacts list?
Originally posted by varrius Originally posted by plescure http://www.xfire.com/games/# guess this why the servers are melting!
I conducted that survey outside my local supermarket.
Originally posted by Zinzan Originally posted by saranya what is xfire?
This post is by far one of the funniest I've read in a few months.
In War - Victory.In Peace - Vigilance.In Death - Sacrifice.
Originally posted by NaeviusRelying on Xfire to get absolute numbers is obviously wrong. However, the ratio of GW2 vs WoW might be meaningful, unless you can make a convincing case for some reason the sampling is non-random. (I.e it's the same as a telephone poll - a random sample of players.)
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
32 million players playing GW2. Got to be a new record.
Originally posted by AeliousA scientist would go ballistic if they could get a legitamate survey of almost 20k people (19121). Xfire, though not used by everyone, cannot be manipulated and therefore can be used for a reasonable discussion.Today may not be the best day for comparison since it's now 54.5 to 13.3 with the patch and all. That said cross sections like xfire are the only legitimate way of measuring GW2's success since there are no subs to report monthly, only box sales.
GW2 still beats WoW even with the new pre-Pandaria patch released. That still says a LOT about the popularity of the game. Only game to achieve this in years.
If you wonder why I don't answer your posts, it's most likely because you are on my block list - so don't waste your time.
The game dominated the hype charts for a long time, not to mention opened a door few AAA mmorpgs have at launch, buy the box to play as long as servers are up. With no sub commitment that definitely will bring in a new wave of players into the genre.
Honestly I'm not surprised.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Originally posted by Grunch Originally posted by expresso Originally posted by Grunch [mod edit]
We're simply trading McDonalds for Starbucks
Wrong. Its more like trading McDonalds for Five Guys or In and Out Burgers.
Bangarang will never be cool, I'm sorry...
So what do you wanna tell us?
GW2 appears more successful compared to a dying game?
Or WoW apparently is dying even faster due to GW?
Srsly its x-fire... who cares?