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[Column] Guild Wars 2: Review in Progress Part 1

SBFordSBFord Associate Editor - News ManagerThe Land of AZPosts: 16,622MMORPG.COM Staff Uncommon

Now that Guild Wars 2 has finally arrived, we are ready to get down to work and get started on our Review in Progress. During the next few weeks, we'll take you with us on our journey through the game and give you our impressions as we go along before finally presenting our final review. Check out Part 1 and see what you think!

So here we are. Guild Wars 2 is a live, changing, tangible thing. For five years, we’ve waited with bated breath on every detail ArenaNet wanted to offer up.  Now, the fun part comes: we get to see it grow, mature, watch its community develop, and we get to find out of a massive AA MMORPG can do the no-sub model from the start.  Over the course of the next 4-5 weeks, I’m going to keep a running journal on my experiences with ArenaNet’s Guild Wars 2. Like recent big releases, we’re calling these “a review in progress”. They will not be scored, but should do a decent job of explaining to our audience how we’re feeling about the game as we play it and work towards the official review.  These games take time to play, and we’re not about to rush out in the first few days with some score based on beta weekend events. That’s not our style.

Read more of Bill Murphy's Guild Wars 2: Review In Progress Part 1.

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  • WhiteLanternWhiteLantern Nevada, MOPosts: 2,732Member

    Montego and PAX? Maybe those "paid-for review" people were on to something. ;)

     

     

     

     

     

    Happy Thursday, Bill.

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  • bcbullybcbully Westland, MIPosts: 8,279Member Uncommon
    second!
  • FinitFinit Smithsburg, MDPosts: 145Member
    Good and fair review.  Now if only some of your previous reviews were that fair...

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  • shakermaker0shakermaker0 SheffieldPosts: 194Member
    Sums up my thoughts pretty much exactly.
  • Reas43Reas43 New York, NYPosts: 297Member
    Lol the entire first half of that love letter reads just like: These are the reasons why this review will not be fair or objective because I'm so emotionally biased and attached to this game. I called it over half a year ago based on the comments on editors from this site: they will not score it below 9. I was going to be conservative and say 8.7, but the first two sections alone guarantee it'll be 9 or over as MMORPG staff decided months ago. Keep it accurate as a laser folks. You have SWTOR and TSW to use as reference points.
  • CoolitCoolit FalkirkPosts: 468Member Uncommon

    All valid points, I think the launch went fine considering it's scope but they really need to fix the trading post asap, it seems to be the number one issue people are bringing up. I've not played the WvWvW since beta so I'm not frustrated by the queue length yet. Another thing to note is the mail system is currently disabled; this is intentional though after the initial reports concerning account theft.

     

    So do any of these issues put me off the game? Absolutely not, I'm thoroughly enjoying the game and agree 100% with the review thus far. The dynamic event system is a breath of fresh air and I think I'll find it hard to go back to a standard questing system now.

     

    @Reas43, the games already scoring mid 90's on other sites, I don't think the score will be an issue like the SWTOR one was, I'm sure they will keep it accurate and inline, just wait and see.
     
  • orbitxoorbitxo fort lauderdale, FLPosts: 1,408Member Uncommon

    No lie- Not sure of its becoause its a new mmo- or a its been a lousy year for expansions and expectations of new games, but this game has me hooked  all my free available time!

    it dosent feel like a grind fest-nor a rat race to finish level cap (for game to begin)- it just feels 'Right' as an mmo should feel! in this decade.

    well done Anet-cant thank you enough!

     
  • gaeanprayergaeanprayer Somewhere Out There, PAPosts: 2,320Member Uncommon

    Yeah, I don't care about WvWvW but I see people complaining a lot. My only issue is the trading post being down. It was up for like 5 minutes yesterday then it got hammered by people and promptly crumbled apart again. I think they vastly underestimated the popularity of their game, it was evident when they had to raise the population cap on servers just in head-start because all of them were full and only more obvious with the trading post. 

     

    Otherwise, game's been the shining example of what an MMO should be.

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  • NephaeriusNephaerius Baltimore, MDPosts: 1,539Member Uncommon
    I love how some people think it must be a conspiracy that someone actually likes this game just because they dont enjoy it. I skipped all thebeta weekends and was ecstatic to find at launch the best MMO I have ever played. Trading post being down sucked but its back up now and on my server we are dominating pvp but stil short to no queues for wvwvw.

    Steam: Neph

  • MephsterMephster Tyria, NJPosts: 1,188Member
    How about more glaring issues like GW2 being a clickfest, dynamic events not as dynamic as they seem and how dynamic events don't fail very often because it is way too easy. How about the fact that this game barely innovates to push the genre forward for better things. I think this is the fairest review we are going to see without the other future reviewers being so biased. Overall I think other reviewers will keep side-stepping the major issues people have in order to make it better than it really is.

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  • FaulknerFaulkner Hutchinson, MNPosts: 111Member

    Good Review  imo.  Personally other then the one day over weekend when they were down for 3-4hours? I have had no lag issues, no kick outs.. nothing...Enjoying my time exploring and not feeling at like i need to get to Max level.  Most fun I have had since early Star Wars Galaxies and the very early days of WOW. 

    Cheers,

    Faulkner.

  • AdiarisAdiaris RomePosts: 381Member
    Is the way I feel as well... been trying to make time to play it and find myself thinking about it when I'm not - which hasn't happened in ages. I love the game and although it's not 100% perfect the experience is pure fun. Thanks Anet for delivering.  
  • kaiser3282kaiser3282 Phoenix, AZPosts: 2,660Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Mephster
    How about more glaring issues like GW2 being a clickfest, dynamic events not as dynamic as they seem and how dynamic events don't fail very often because it is way too easy. How about the fact that this game barely innovates to push the genre forward for better things. I think this is the fairest review we are oging to see without the other future reviewers being so biased. Overall I think other reviewers will keep side-stepping the major issues people have in order to make it better than it really is.

    Clickfest? As in you need to click your keys to use your skills? **looks down at keyboard** Um... what else are you supposed to do in any game? Unless someone comes out with some new hardware for the PC that is universally used sometime in the near future EVERY game is going to be a clickfest.

    Ive seen plenty of Dynamic Events fail, especially once you get past the earlier ones. When the pop dies down in the earlier zones they wont seem so easy.

    Same applies to how dynamic the events are. Early impression of it will seemt hat way because it was designed to break people into DEs. They become more complex and have bigger impacts as you progress further.

    Im still under the impression you dont actually play and are simply taking peoples 1st impressions of the starting zones their 1st day or 2 playing as fact that the entire game is exactly like it.

  • CaldrinCaldrin CwmbranPosts: 4,533Member Uncommon

    haha i predict this review to be a very very high score.. I would use the term fanboy but i dont like it.. either way the guy loved GW2 before he even played it.. thats not how to go into a review..

    He didnt mention how boring the Heart missions are.. collecting or killing tons of things over and over and over. He didnt mention the fact you can skip them if you like.

    Also he didnt go into detail about how the so called Dynamic events in the starter areas all happen in in the same location just at random times and a lot of them are just as boring as the heart quests.

    Still its the first part of the review so hopefully he will cover these later on..

    Im not bashnig GW2 here by the way im just saying it how it is.. tho im sure some people will think im bashing fair enough.

  • CaldrinCaldrin CwmbranPosts: 4,533Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Caldrin

    haha i predict this review to be a very very high score.. I would use the term fanboy but i dont like it.. either way the guy loved GW2 before he even played it.. thats not how to go into a review..

    He didnt mention how boring the Heart missions are.. collecting or killing tons of things over and over and over. He didnt mention the fact you can skip them if you like.

    Also he didnt go into detail about how the so called Dynamic events in the starter areas all happen in in the same location just at random times and a lot of them are just as boring as the heart quests. (Sorry dont mean all the dynamic events happen in exactly the same spot, they each have their own spot hehe)

    Still its the first part of the review so hopefully he will cover these later on..

    Im not bashnig GW2 here by the way im just saying it how it is.. tho im sure some people will think im bashing fair enough.

     

  • NephaeriusNephaerius Baltimore, MDPosts: 1,539Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Caldrin

    haha i predict this review to be a very very high score.. I would use the term fanboy but i dont like it.. either way the guy loved GW2 before he even played it.. thats not how to go into a review..

    He didnt mention how boring the Heart missions are.. collecting or killing tons of things over and over and over. He didnt mention the fact you can skip them if you like.

    Also he didnt go into detail about how the so called Dynamic events in the starter areas all happen in in the same location just at random times and a lot of them are just as boring as the heart quests.

    Still its the first part of the review so hopefully he will cover these later on..

    Im not bashnig GW2 here by the way im just saying it how it is.. tho im sure some people will think im bashing fair enough.

    While I agree with some of your points.  High score =/ fanboy.  Just because you don't like a game doesn't mean it's bad.  It's personal taste.  I don't like Rift, a lot of other people do,  I could point out all the reasons why I don't like Rift, that still doesn't make it a categorically bad game.  It only means that it doesn't suit my taste.  

    I don't really care for any Battlefield game or many other widely acknowledged good games.  Does that mean that everyone else is wrong and they're bad games? Eh, they're probably all just fanboys right? 

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  • MahavishnuMahavishnu BerlinPosts: 336Member

    I remember the first weeks of WoW with long waiting-cues, a lot of technical issues, hundreds of bugs and certain content not even ready to be played.

    I will be on vacation during september, afterwards I will buy Guildwars 2.

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  • RocknissRockniss Youngstown, OHPosts: 1,034Member
    Wvw times do suck, trade down sucks, and I can't decide what to play so as of right now my highest is lvl 6 I need to just bunker down and stick it out. I am optimistic that the obvious minor downfalls will be worked out though. The game overall is too sweet to let them go untouched, like when my warrior leaps and my thief shadowsteps and it goes off target or leaps to far that needs fixed
  • CaldrinCaldrin CwmbranPosts: 4,533Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Nephaerius
    Originally posted by Caldrin

    haha i predict this review to be a very very high score.. I would use the term fanboy but i dont like it.. either way the guy loved GW2 before he even played it.. thats not how to go into a review..

    He didnt mention how boring the Heart missions are.. collecting or killing tons of things over and over and over. He didnt mention the fact you can skip them if you like.

    Also he didnt go into detail about how the so called Dynamic events in the starter areas all happen in in the same location just at random times and a lot of them are just as boring as the heart quests.

    Still its the first part of the review so hopefully he will cover these later on..

    Im not bashnig GW2 here by the way im just saying it how it is.. tho im sure some people will think im bashing fair enough.

    While I agree with some of your points.  High score =/ fanboy.  Just because you don't like a game doesn't mean it's bad.  It's personal taste.  I don't like Rift, a lot of other people do,  I could point out all the reasons why I don't like Rift, that still doesn't make it a categorically bad game.  It only means that it doesn't suit my taste.  

    I don't really care for any Battlefield game or many other widely acknowledged good games.  Does that mean that everyone else is wrong and they're bad games? Eh, they're probably all just fanboys right? 

    Come on you cant honestly say the heart quests are fun? The only reason people in my guild are running them is so they can get rewards for finishing each zone. Tho you are right we all do liek different things :)

    It just sounded like he already loved the game before playing it and I for one dont want a reviewer to be like that with a game. MMORPG should have said to its reviewers ages ago right GW2 is out in a few years whos gonna do the review? Who ever it was should then have stayed away from getting too involved with GW2 until it was released :)

     

    Anyway ill hold of until the full review is done :)

     

  • KuppaKuppa Boulder, COPosts: 3,292Member Uncommon

    Agreed! exploration is just so awesome in this game. I am making a habit of not using the map and not talking to the scouts. I literally just roam around. Things happen and it makes it feel like an adventure, it reminds me of Skyrim.

     

    Of course when I know Ive run most of the area Im in I will eventually look at the map to get some direction but its just so much fun to look at something far away and go to it, and sometimes you don't even make it because some event caught your attention and drives you in a totally different route and you end up asking yourself how the heck did I even end up here. Its great!

     

    BTW that event in the human area with the little girl in the hole asking for help, pure awesomeness. I was with some folk running an escort mission and it had just ended, some of us started going in the same direction and all of a sudden the new event pops up and the girl starts asking for help, you are wondering were the heck is that girl. Until you find the hole :)

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  • kaiser3282kaiser3282 Phoenix, AZPosts: 2,660Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Caldrin
    Originally posted by Nephaerius
    Originally posted by Caldrin

    haha i predict this review to be a very very high score.. I would use the term fanboy but i dont like it.. either way the guy loved GW2 before he even played it.. thats not how to go into a review..

    He didnt mention how boring the Heart missions are.. collecting or killing tons of things over and over and over. He didnt mention the fact you can skip them if you like.

    Also he didnt go into detail about how the so called Dynamic events in the starter areas all happen in in the same location just at random times and a lot of them are just as boring as the heart quests.

    Still its the first part of the review so hopefully he will cover these later on..

    Im not bashnig GW2 here by the way im just saying it how it is.. tho im sure some people will think im bashing fair enough.

    While I agree with some of your points.  High score =/ fanboy.  Just because you don't like a game doesn't mean it's bad.  It's personal taste.  I don't like Rift, a lot of other people do,  I could point out all the reasons why I don't like Rift, that still doesn't make it a categorically bad game.  It only means that it doesn't suit my taste.  

    I don't really care for any Battlefield game or many other widely acknowledged good games.  Does that mean that everyone else is wrong and they're bad games? Eh, they're probably all just fanboys right? 

    Come on you cant honestly say the heart quests are fun? The only reason people in my guild are running them is so they can get rewards for finishing each zone. Tho you are right we all do liek different things :)

    It just sounded like he already loved the game before playing it and I for one dont want a reviewer to be like that with a game. MMORPG should have said to its reviewers ages ago right GW2 is out in a few years whos gonna do the review? Who ever it was should then have stayed away from getting too involved with GW2 until it was released :)

     

    Anyway ill hold of until the full review is done :)

     

    I really dont get it. You keep talking about the heart quests. Pretty sure anyone who paid any attention at all already knew theyre basically just your normal quests and are  there mainly as a hub or a way to give people a purpose to explore around the map and interact in that area while encountering / triggering DEs in the process. With DEs typically notifying you when youre in the general area, most people wouldnt even know there was any in that area unless they ran into them in the process of doing the Hearts and Personal Storyline.

    The heart quets offer a little more variety than normal quests, in that you can complete them usually by doing 3 or 4 different things instead of just 1, and theres more to  a lot of them than simple kill or collect, but theyre hardly what anyone was interested in the game for. DEs and the Personal Story are the heart of PvE in the game, the hearts are just the filler.

  • MumboJumboMumboJumbo LondonPosts: 3,221Member

    ~"Over the course of the next 4-5 weeks, I’m going to keep a running journal on my experiences with ArenaNet’s Guild Wars 2. Like recent big releases, we’re calling these “a review in progress”. They will not be scored, but should do a decent job of explaining to our audience how we’re feeling about the game as we play it and work towards the official review."

    Sounds good to me. :)

  • nuttobnuttob Plantation, FLPosts: 291Member
    I agree with you review 100%.  The old quest hub system always made me feel like an errand boy.  Now it's a full blown awesome adventure!  It's hard for me to play any other MMO because of it!
  • NikkitaNikkita ParisPosts: 790Member
    So is it going to be 9 or 9.5? any guesses? ;)

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  • CoolitCoolit FalkirkPosts: 468Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Nikkita
    So is it going to be 9 or 9.5? any guesses? ;)

     

    Well I've seen 94 - 100% in the other reviews so far so I expect it to be around there, it's currently sitting at 94% aggregate score on metacritic also.

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