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Which MMO did not "fail"?

CastillleCastillle Member UncommonPosts: 2,679
So...GW2 failed.  TSW failed.  SWTOR failed.  Just about everything failed.  So aside from WoW, what mmo DIDNT fail? o.O Entropia Universe?  o.O

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  • galphargalphar Member UncommonPosts: 81
    Actually If you are talking about "failed" launches, WoW failed too.


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  • NaughtyPNaughtyP Member UncommonPosts: 793

    I haven't even had time to pick up GW2 and it's already dead?

    New record!

    Enter a whole new realm of challenge and adventure.

  • QuirhidQuirhid Member UncommonPosts: 6,230
    When did GW2 fail and why? Or TSW for that matter?

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  • CastillleCastillle Member UncommonPosts: 2,679
    Originally posted by galphar
    Actually If you are talking about "failed" launches, WoW failed too.

    Idk...Majority of the people I talk to in F2P games say WoW had the smoothest launch ever with no issues...Then again Im expecting them to treat WoW launch as 3 months after release...

    Well..The guild wars 2 forums seems to think that 1m prepurchases mean fail...and TSW forums are filled with that too o.o with its, and I quote, "Lowly 300k subs".

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  • rafatalex007rafatalex007 Member Posts: 54

    GW2 failed

    it just launched 3 days ago ( that if u consider head start a launch) But anyway am gona argue it with u

     

  • sirphobossirphobos Member UncommonPosts: 620
    Originally posted by Castillle
    Originally posted by galphar
    Actually If you are talking about "failed" launches, WoW failed too.

    Idk...Majority of the people I talk to in F2P games say WoW had the smoothest launch ever with no issues...Then again Im expecting them to treat WoW launch as 3 months after release...

    Well..The guild wars 2 forums seems to think that 1m prepurchases mean fail...and TSW forums are filled with that too o.o with its, and I quote, "Lowly 300k subs".

    WoW had a pretty horrible launch, massive queues, server outages, etc.  It says something when Everquest 2's advertising campaign was basically "come play our game, it actually works".

  • WhiteLanternWhiteLantern Member RarePosts: 3,309
    Originally posted by Castillle
    Originally posted by galphar
    Actually If you are talking about "failed" launches, WoW failed too.

    Idk...Majority of the people I talk to in F2P games say WoW had the smoothest launch ever with no issues...Then again Im expecting them to treat WoW launch as 3 months after release...

    Well..The guild wars 2 forums seems to think that 1m prepurchases mean fail...and TSW forums are filled with that too o.o with its, and I quote, "Lowly 300k subs".

    WoW's launch was horrible. Even a year later, the server woes were attrocious at best.

    I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  • MMOwandererMMOwanderer Member Posts: 415

    Rift. Very sucessfull mmorpg for Trion.

    Don't know how TERA's doing for enMasse at this point.

    Most likely, low to middle budget mmos that don't require high amounts of box and/or subs/playerbase.

     

  • QuirhidQuirhid Member UncommonPosts: 6,230
    Originally posted by Castillle
     

    Idk...Majority of the people I talk to in F2P games say WoW had the smoothest launch ever with no issues...Then again Im expecting them to treat WoW launch as 3 months after release...

    Well..The guild wars 2 forums seems to think that 1m prepurchases mean fail...and TSW forums are filled with that too o.o with its, and I quote, "Lowly 300k subs".

    Like some have already said, WoW had a terrible launch. I remember tho from previous threads and my own experiences that Final Fantasy XI and Guild Wars 1 may have been the only "smooth launches" in MMO history.

    And you shouldn't believe everything you read from forums.

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  • mmoguy43mmoguy43 Member UncommonPosts: 2,770

    From the perspective of stupid opinions people have then you could say every MMO has "failed" at launch.

    ...and would be the point of that? Nothing.

  • Superman0XSuperman0X Member RarePosts: 2,292
    The first game to not fail was Everquest. The next was WoW. We havent had a bigger sucess in the MMORPG Genre since these.
  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332

    FFXI

    As a matter of fact i get miffed when i see developers shutting down servers every week for this so called maintenance.I played FFXI for 8 years and only ONCE did the server go down,Earthquake is a pretty acceptable reason i think.I never encountered a single bug,geesh i really never had a single problem ever,so go figure i was a very happy gamer.

    Now to be fair FFXI did a have a full year to release in JPN.but so what?All i care about is the release they did here,especially when you figure that was a console game and the release here  was a PC version.The Console was delayed for Hard drive orders/needs.

    I was not there for the release of EQ,i joined later as i was an avid Unreal fan at the time that started in 1998.So perhaps Eq had a decent launch but judging by what i saw from SOE games is not likely.Bugged animations,mobs underground,getting stuck,map glitches,you name it .

    I would say Rift was decent but in line with MOST devs cutting corners on cost made for a poor server structure.Outside of being cheap on servers,i did not witness any problems in RIFT.

     

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  • negativf4kknegativf4kk Member UncommonPosts: 381

    Only SWTOR.

    The rest are good games for diffrent audience. Some for kids some for more mature players.

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  • GrixxittGrixxitt Member UncommonPosts: 545
    The only thing production houses look at to determine success/failure is return on investment (ROI), so I would suggest using that as a measuring stick 

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  • DemandmanDemandman Member Posts: 57
    Ultima Online, DAOC, Everquest, WoW and EVE should all have made their profits, no? Nothing lasts forever anyway (no physics comments please :P)
  • rissiesrissies Member Posts: 161
    Every game has "failed" in the opinion of at least one player or another.
  • SephrosSephros Member UncommonPosts: 429
    All mmo's fail if they dont achieve WOW numbers........... Dont they?

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  • NovusodNovusod Member UncommonPosts: 912

    MMOs that didn't fail are far and few between lately.

    Ultima Online

    Everquest

    Dark Age of Camelot

    Eve

    SWG

    Lineage II

    Everquest 2

    WoW *

     

    Although WoW made billions of dollars it was a terrible game. Imagine before eating at 5 star resturants and then McDonolds comes a long becomes the most successful resturant of all time. Then outragously all the 5 star resturants try to compete with McDonalds and started serving burgers and fries. Suddenly you couldn't get a good Filet Minon to save your life. That has been the pretty much been the history of MMOs.

  • Eir_SEir_S Member UncommonPosts: 4,440
    Originally posted by Sephros
    All mmo's fail if they dont achieve WOW numbers........... Dont they?

    Dude, I think you're right.

  • TatercakeTatercake Member UncommonPosts: 286

    there is a lot  taht didnt fail UO dint fail  but what is fail to you is not a fial to others

     

  • LatronusLatronus Member Posts: 692
    Originally posted by Castillle
    Originally posted by galphar
    Actually If you are talking about "failed" launches, WoW failed too.

    Idk...Majority of the people I talk to in F2P games say WoW had the smoothest launch ever with no issues...Then again Im expecting them to treat WoW launch as 3 months after release...

    Well..The guild wars 2 forums seems to think that 1m prepurchases mean fail...and TSW forums are filled with that too o.o with its, and I quote, "Lowly 300k subs".

    Whoever told you that WoW had a smooth launch LIED!  My Grandfather used to say, "Believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see."  Those are some good words to live by...

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  • GW2 hasn't failed that is just silly.

     

    Rift has been successful.

  • MMOExposedMMOExposed Member RarePosts: 7,387
    Question, is SWTOR a failure or success?

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  • CastillleCastillle Member UncommonPosts: 2,679
    Originally posted by MMOExposed
    Question, is SWTOR a failure or success?

    According to the forums, its the biggest failure in the industry.

    Rift is supposedly in life support.

    Umm...Yeah o.o  Im just going by what the forums say! :O

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  • TrionicusTrionicus Member UncommonPosts: 498
    Originally posted by Novusod

    MMOs that didn't fail are far and few between lately.

    Ultima Online

    Everquest

    Dark Age of Camelot

    Eve

    SWG

    Lineage II

    Everquest 2

    WoW *

     

    Although WoW made billions of dollars it was a terrible game. Imagine before eating at 5 star resturants and then McDonolds comes a long becomes the most successful resturant of all time. Then outragously all the 5 star resturants try to compete with McDonalds and started serving burgers and fries. Suddenly you couldn't get a good Filet Minon to save your life. That has been the pretty much been the history of MMOs.

    Not a bad analogy lol.

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