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Originally posted by LoganKonlan Lost me at anime. As a member of the mid 40's crowd, I played alll of the Wizardy series - anticipating the next release just as we savor the upcoming GW2 release. It's amazing how I've been doing this for over 20 years. My favorite Wizardry release was, "Bane of the Cosmic Forge" and I can assure you that anime was NO part of it! Yuck and buh-bye.
Wow a little biased huh? Wizard is mostly a JP franchise now since the people support it more in JP than in NA.
"I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"
Originally posted by Margrave Pass. Lost me at perma-death. I don't play anything with that.
For the majority of us, Permadeath in a MMO is FTL......No one wants to put in much time then lose everything, including your character.....Permadeath works fine in a single player game because you have saves and control your destiny...In a mMO it only takes one jerk and your game is ruined (and there are alot of jerks usually).
Originally posted by Theocritus Originally posted by Margrave Pass. Lost me at perma-death. I don't play anything with that.
I don't get attached to 1's and 0's. I enjoy a game that is challenging, and the sense of Risk VS Reward is far greater than finally catching that carrot on a string. Also if I can make some moron cry over these things then that will be a nice little bonus.
I'm not thrilled that it's Anime style, or done by SOE, but at least SOMEONE is doing something DIFFERENT.
Something else the Japanese understand: baseball.
Strike One: overly-cutesy pedophile-style graphics
Strike Two: P2W cash shop (that they are not even trying to hide)
Strike Three: SOE
You're out, Wizardry MMO.
For the majority of us, Permadeath in a MMO is FTL......No one wants to put in much time then lose everything
You don't lose everything, if you'd read the article you'd know that.
And yes, there's quite a lot of people who want that. Hell, even Minecraft does it.
Originally posted by Tibernicus Originally posted by Theocritus Originally posted by Margrave Pass. Lost me at perma-death. I don't play anything with that.
Yeah, quite a few until they experience their first time being ganked. There are a lot of reasons permadeath does not work in a MMO:
1. The cheaters will do everything they can to stay alive and make sure you are the gankee.
2. Having to pay to get your avatar resurrected everytime will get very old very fast.
3. If they have any support staff, they will be overwhelmed with the complaints about dropped connections and the cheaters.
4. Pretty hard to make friends in a game where you or your friends are constantly cloning new personas.
5. Personally there is little difference of the thrill of pvp in a perma death game and one that is just ffa-pvp. The vast majority will avoid the permadeath game as a result.
This game is just a loser from the start, they are doing just about everything wrong you can do in a MMO.
Originally posted by Theocritus From what I'm hearing this doesn't sound anything like the WIzardry games I remeber...It sounds like they just took the WIzardry name for name recognition sake and are making their own game.
...This is because Wizardry continued in Japan after they stopped making it here- In Japan they are up to like Wiz part 7000 lol- while we have only 8.
Look, I am OLD SCHOOL and when I heard Wizardry was downloadable for PS3 I was like "HELL YEAH"- Then I downloaded the Trial and was like "?WTF is this...FUUUUUUUUUUUUU???????" when I saw the abomination that loaded onto my Television screen . (I have since destroyed that TV for showinbg me such Horror)
I then googled Wizardry to see what the hell was going on and if I was in a parallel universe... Nope. Its the Japanese. The GOD DAMNED Japenese... They bought the rights to Wizardry and for the last 10 years or more have turned it into an anime...Somerting...
Posting this makes me feel dirty.
Hey guys, just going to lay it out.
The posters that used to come with the nes/SNES games did have that "Ronin Warriors" 80's-90's Anime.
I still have my Wizardry games and yeah this is too much for the games art direction but to say anime wasn't even near Wizardry is to stick with just the games and not so much all the outside content.
Then again it's just art in japan. It's only "special" here. I was lost a SoE, permadeath is totally ok, so long as it's not reyling on the server to not bug, connection,powerloss,crashes,etc.
If there is a redunant checker (it can be done) for those types of things? SoE can count me in.
If it's implimented like a standard mmorpg and death is a standard affair and thus why create the redundancies? Hell no.
I'll accept death for my stupid mistakes, even perma, but not perma due to power loss.
We talk about the original games but you know....I was a cheap bastard I'd just reset before the end of the dirge tune.
Hell in the snes version I went so far as to use a old rom checker to restore a game which i had died and woefully saved upon.