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Game still cpu-bound?

zxcvbnm1234zxcvbnm1234 qwerPosts: 92Member
Last stress test, i mean yesterday it was still like that i think. Is that true or i don't why my fps is too low.
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  • niceguy3978niceguy3978 Gainesville, FLPosts: 2,000Member
    Originally posted by Speire
    Last stress test, i mean yesterday it was still like that i think. Is that true or i don't why my fps is too low.

    No, it isn't still cpu bound, but its not possible to answer why your fps is low if you don't give your computer specs.

  • necrosteinnecrostein westminster, COPosts: 80Member

    not according to anet.  recent anet  blog entry that doesnt really spell out anything clearly

    https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/bill-freist-talks-optimization-and-performance/

     

    hope it helps

  • MyTabbycatMyTabbycat SP, MOPosts: 312Member

    This article might give you some answers: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/bill-freist-talks-optimization-and-performance/

     

    Oh necro beat me by a second. I must post faster next time. :p

  • RoybeRoybe Star, NCPosts: 420Member

    Reference:

    Q8400

    8 Gigs DDR2

    NVidia Geforce GTX 560

     

    40+ FPS in low population ares

    25+ FPS in Lion's Arch

     

    Was running under <20 FPS when it was CPU bound

  • benit59benit59 Canton, GAPosts: 114Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Speire
    Last stress test, i mean yesterday it was still like that i think. Is that true or i don't why my fps is too low.

    I updated to the recommended new nVidia Beta drivers like the game client suggested and my performance was markedly improved. After they got some bugs out last night was one of the smoothest performances, graphically speaking, that I have seen out of the game.

  • benit59benit59 Canton, GAPosts: 114Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Roybe

    Reference:

    Q8400

    8 Gigs DDR2

    NVidia Geforce GTX 560

     

    40+ FPS in low population ares

    25+ FPS in Lion's Arch

     

    Was running under <20 FPS when it was CPU bound

    Yeah...make sure you get beta driver 304.72...much better performance.

     

  • LifeEnderLifeEnder Plano, ILPosts: 45Member
    Runs smokin on both my Radeon machines
  • ToxiaToxia Lake Charles, LAPosts: 1,319Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by LifeEnder
    Runs smokin on both my Radeon machines

    That's never good. I reccomend checking your airflow and cooling accordingly

    The Deep Web is sca-ry.

  • LifeEnderLifeEnder Plano, ILPosts: 45Member
    Originally posted by Toxia
    Originally posted by LifeEnder
    Runs smokin on both my Radeon machines

    That's never good. I reccomend checking your airflow and cooling accordingly

    What is this airflow you speak of ?  A Mystical force to cool off CPUs and GPUs ?

  • necrosteinnecrostein westminster, COPosts: 80Member
    you mean im not supposed to toast sandwiches on my cpu?  i thought thats what the grills were for, sammich cubano!
  • niceguy3978niceguy3978 Gainesville, FLPosts: 2,000Member
    Originally posted by LifeEnder
    Originally posted by Toxia
    Originally posted by LifeEnder
    Runs smokin on both my Radeon machines

    That's never good. I reccomend checking your airflow and cooling accordingly

    What is this airflow you speak of ?  A Mystical force to cool off CPUs and GPUs ?

    But if you cooled it,  it wouldn't be smokin.

  • LifeEnderLifeEnder Plano, ILPosts: 45Member
    Originally posted by niceguy3978
    Originally posted by LifeEnder
    Originally posted by Toxia
    Originally posted by LifeEnder
    Runs smokin on both my Radeon machines

    That's never good. I reccomend checking your airflow and cooling accordingly

    What is this airflow you speak of ?  A Mystical force to cool off CPUs and GPUs ?

    But if you cooled it,  it wouldn't be smokin.

    I think the last time I saw a component smoke was a socket 475 under peltier cooling. More like combust there though .

  • BillyJimBobBillyJimBob London, ONPosts: 35Member
    Originally posted by LifeEnder
    Originally posted by Toxia
    Originally posted by LifeEnder
    Runs smokin on both my Radeon machines

    That's never good. I reccomend checking your airflow and cooling accordingly

    What is this airflow you speak of ?  A Mystical force to cool off CPUs and GPUs ?

    Like this kind of airflow?

  • LifeEnderLifeEnder Plano, ILPosts: 45Member
    Originally posted by BillyJimBob
    Originally posted by LifeEnder
    Originally posted by Toxia
    Originally posted by LifeEnder
    Runs smokin on both my Radeon machines

    That's never good. I reccomend checking your airflow and cooling accordingly

    What is this airflow you speak of ?  A Mystical force to cool off CPUs and GPUs ?

    Like this kind of airflow?

    Not my cup of tea , Been a LIan li user for 20 years , old habits are hard to break. I am fond of the corsair boxes though . Ive had 2 of those in the last 10 months .

  • zxcvbnm1234zxcvbnm1234 qwerPosts: 92Member

    Oh i'm playing it on my laptop which has,

    • i3 2.4 ghz processor
    • 3 gb ddr3 1066mhz ram
    • 512 mb ati mobility 5470 video card
    i don't have desktop computer so i'm trying to play at lowest setting no shadow and all others low. but still 10-15 fps during wvwvw. when i checked out the guildwars2.exe in taskmgr the percentage of using cpu was %80.
  • jusomdudejusomdude Posts: 2,389Member Uncommon
    Don't expect good fps in large WvW battles with anything less than an i5. The game also seems to be more optimized for intel CPU's.
  • miguksarammiguksaram Fort Meade, MDPosts: 826Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by LifeEnder
    Originally posted by BillyJimBob
    Originally posted by LifeEnder
    Originally posted by Toxia
    Originally posted by LifeEnder
    Runs smokin on both my Radeon machines

    That's never good. I reccomend checking your airflow and cooling accordingly

    What is this airflow you speak of ?  A Mystical force to cool off CPUs and GPUs ?

    Like this kind of airflow?

    Not my cup of tea , Been a LIan li user for 20 years , old habits are hard to break. I am fond of the corsair boxes though . Ive had 2 of those in the last 10 months .

    Lian Li is good chit but I'll stick to my Silver Stone everyday of the week for performance vs price.

  • miguksarammiguksaram Fort Meade, MDPosts: 826Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by jusomdude
    Don't expect good fps in large WvW battles with anything less than an i5. The game also seems to be more optimized for intel CPU's.

    I seriously don't mean to harp on you Jusomdude but even Quiz (the one who helped you, among many of us, decide on what to build) will tell you that if overall performance is what you are seeking Intel i5 is the way to go (actually above i5 currently nets you zero gain in most PC games due to lack of utilization of i7's "virtual" cores).

  • jusomdudejusomdude Posts: 2,389Member Uncommon
    You don't only need an i5, but one of the higher end ones. IMO it's a dumb move for them to write off all AMD users.
  • JackdogJackdog Charleston, SCPosts: 6,344Member
    I ran the game in windowed mode to test this using a software GPU meter and the game is using most of my GPU memory. Card is a ATI 6800 series

    I miss DAoC

  • angrymimeangrymime hacienda heights, CAPosts: 154Member

    Should we be using beta drivers for ATI cards?

     

  • KalmporosKalmporos GroumpaPosts: 282Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Speire

    Oh i'm playing it on my laptop which has,

    • i3 2.4 ghz processor
    • 3 gb ddr3 1066mhz ram
    • 512 mb ati mobility 5470 video card
    i don't have desktop computer so i'm trying to play at lowest setting no shadow and all others low. but still 10-15 fps during wvwvw. when i checked out the guildwars2.exe in taskmgr the percentage of using cpu was %80.

    And what was the usage of your GPU?

  • miguksarammiguksaram Fort Meade, MDPosts: 826Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by jusomdude
    You don't only need an i5, but one of the higher end ones. IMO it's a dumb move for them to write off all AMD users.

    You are missing the point here.  AMD vs Intel is not the actual argument, per say.  The current generation of Intel Chips simply exceed the AMD's versions.  Which is the exact reason for the cost difference.  My Intel i5 a couple months ago, hell even today, and still costs around $200.  Please look to the following article, or do your own search, for why AMD just can't compete with Intel.

     

    http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/313652-28-perormance-core-2500k-3850

    I'm sorry you chose an AMD chip and are now unsatisfied with the performance but I'm faily confidenet (without looking back at old posts) that Quiz explained the trade off you should expect from making said choice.  In todays' market the i5 reigns KING in the CPU world for PC gaming.  Whether or not this continues into the the future no one knows but based on history we can at least expect that AMD will remain the "budget" CPU while Intel will keep it's place on the throne until proven otherwise.

  • jusomdudejusomdude Posts: 2,389Member Uncommon

    My point is, the game shouldn't be so damn CPU dependent where no other game is. This processor has served me fine for every other game I've played, and it's ridiculous that I should have to upgrade for one particular game.

    It's an issue being that ANet hasn't properly balanced between needed CPU power and GPU power.

    the i5 is pretty much overkill for any other game on the market.

     

    And even Quizz thought is was ridiculous that my CPU isn't able to handle it in his last post.

  • miguksarammiguksaram Fort Meade, MDPosts: 826Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by jusomdude

    My point is, the game shouldn't be so damn CPU dependent where no other game is. This processor has served me fine for every other game I've played, and it's ridiculous that I should have to upgrade for one particular game.

    It's an issue being that ANet hasn't properly balanced between needed CPU power and GPU power.

    the i5 is pretty much overkill for any other game on the market.

     

    And even Quizz thought is was ridiculous that my CPU isn't able to handle it in his last post.

     

     

    Which if you read my last post (I honestly don't recall if it was in this thread or the other one that point) you will see that the CPU vs GPU issue is one that ANET has yet to decide on.  Then again I also stated that regardless of their decision if you expect no issues in WvWvW you will probably have to give in some area.

    Quiz is without a doubt the most knowledgeable on these boards when it comes to hardware knowledge but even he/she can be wrong when it comes to software performance, due to its unpredictability, and most likely will the first to tell you so when proven otherwise.

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