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[Column] World of Warcraft: Should Azeroth be F2P to 60?



  • WicoaWicoa LondonPosts: 1,637Member Uncommon
  • OldBikerOldBiker San Diego, CAPosts: 75Member

    The starter edition is nothing more than a free trail.  It is so limited that nobody can actually play it.  Blizzard already gives away vanilla and BC when you buy the Northrend expansion.

    Given all that it really wouldn't hurt Blizzard to open up all of the vanilla and BC content to a F2P model.  However, it will dump a ton of asshats into Azeroth that the players will have to deal with.  Although, WoW already has the loin's share of asshats.

  • JaedorJaedor Denver, COPosts: 1,171Member Uncommon

    The battle chest deals are generally a good deal, but a battle chest plus latest xpac plus a sub does add up. I think there is one single thing they could offer to bring people back, and that's a 1-80 auto-level (like you get with a scroll of rez) for $10 or the price of a one month sub.


    It just takes too long to level a toon anymore and if you've seen the content already a dozen times, you really don't want to do it again. If they offered a level-up option to 80 (enough to learn to play the toon from 80-85 in Cata content), I would be interested.

  • gnarly1508gnarly1508 Tung ChungPosts: 1Member
    though it could help blizzard make money, imo i'd say no..
    no trolls please..F2P= more scammers,more spammer, and trolls..
  • GravargGravarg Harker Heights, TXPosts: 3,409Member Uncommon
    I actually would like to see this. Although I'm subscribed, I would actually make another f2p account and treat it as WoW Vanilla if it went upto 60. Go on onyxia and bwl raids all the time :) As long as it wasn't restricted, which thanks to goldsellers and stuff, it'll have to be :(
  • JerYnkFanJerYnkFan Kenilworth, NJPosts: 339Member Uncommon
    I just bought the Battle Chest, ROTLK and Cataclysm for 20 bucks. Think that would be incentive enough for someone to try it out I would think.
  • zxcvbnm1234zxcvbnm1234 qwerPosts: 92Member
    It's all god damn GW2's fault. lol
  • IstavaanIstavaan CorkPosts: 1,350Member
    Originally posted by palulalula

    Only over my dead body! Dude are you ok? You want trolls like me to contaminate Azeroth?? No F2P for wow!. F2P is for weak


    ^ This guy plays wow, can't you tell?
  • IstavaanIstavaan CorkPosts: 1,350Member
    Another day another ass kicking served up by guild wars 2. You better be scared!
  • IstavaanIstavaan CorkPosts: 1,350Member
    Originally posted by Lumbrales

    I still wouldn't play it. ^^


    Listen to this guy he knows stuff.
  • TorrmwyreTorrmwyre Wilmington, DEPosts: 66Member Uncommon
    No, but if their population begins to tank then they should look into Buy-To-Play models.
  • RazeeksterRazeekster GlobPosts: 2,589Member Uncommon
    Is anyone else still surprised they have the player numbers they have now? I mean this is a game that launched in 2004... I feel like there's much better games out there now, but I guess some people really love it or something (well the Western market doesn't even count for half of the subscriptions so we know that the West is getting tired of it).


  • itgrowlsitgrowls newport news, VAPosts: 2,951Member
    I think that given the fact that the sub money does nothing to improve the game, it's only there to line the pockets of Ghostcrawler and his crew, and the fact that new content only comes from expensive (even at this point) and lacking in content expansions (yes i played the beta) it should have turned into a B2P model YEARS ago. Freemium is never a good model and would only hurt it futher.
  • SlampigSlampig Chantilly, VAPosts: 2,341Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by lizardbones
    Given that buying four expansions is going to cost something like $100 or more, it certainly wouldn't hurt them to get people into the game and playing through a lot of content for free. I would think that initial cost is a huge hurdle to get people to jump over.

    You can grab all of the games at Amazon for under $50, add in $40 for MoP and you are still under your $100.


    Also, you assume people are going to buy the entire cataloge at one time. 

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  • VikingGamerVikingGamer Nowhere, TXPosts: 1,348Member Uncommon

    With the change in the old world, are any of the old vanilla raids even still accessible at 60? If the game was free to play up to 60 and you could still do some of these old raids I think it would create a sub population that would enjoy it. But it might be small. They might want to try to concentrate such a population onto a handful of servers. I don't see why not. If the content already exist it takes nothing to "deliver" it. These players might end up monitizing by picking up a mount or pet in the store.

    In fact, I would say, they should offer vanilla for free and then charge a bit for the expansions as if they were DLC but still not charge a sub until you get to MoP.

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  • TigerAeroTigerAero Fort Campbell, KYPosts: 127Member

    F2P is for the dogs. I don't understand everyone's thinking. Is everyone really that broke that they are pushing F2P on everyone and every thing?


    I'm starting to get a tad bit frustrated over all this F2P wave seemingly going on here at MMORPG.


    I mean I commented on the game's cash shop and another forum about it costing 2 pounds for 1 hour of buffs and holy cripes I got flamed to no end about it being "pay to win." Ok? If it is pay to win, ANET still needs to make some more income then original box sales. Otherwise, you personally,  over time become a leech on their income.

  • thinktank001thinktank001 oasisPosts: 2,133Member Uncommon

    Lets just stop and think about this article.     10% of P2W games has paying customers.   That would require those 10% to purchase $150 a month just to compete with the current business model.


    P2W isn't for games that have a large number of subscribers.   It is for P2P games that have failed.


  • SomeOldBlokeSomeOldBloke Lancaster, UKPosts: 2,167Member Uncommon
    If Pandas doesn'y have good box sales make it f2p... otherwise bleed them dry with subs and cash shop. If people are dumb enough to pay for it Blizzard should just keep on taking their money.
  • IcewhiteIcewhite Elmhurst, ILPosts: 6,403Member

    Consider how much of the pre-60 content already got retrofitted into the nostalgia raid o' the week....Why not.

    Your pre-60 includes a lot of cataclysm content for free, however...might cause a stir among the bean-counters.

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  • TorvalTorval Posts: 11,926Member Legendary

    Yes, it should go F2P.  Most every sub game should.  It should go Aion or Perfect World type of F2P, but it doesn't have to.  They really don't have to do anything they don't want to.  Even though they are bleeding subs somewhat it always seems their players come back because there is nothing out there better for them.  RIFT is the closest thing that offers challenging raid based content and it's nowhere near as large yet, doesn't have the brand recognition, and requires a much higher end system to enjoy the game.

    Also people keep mentioning 9-10 million subs, but I don't think that is right, is it?  It's 3 - 4 million subs in North America and Europe with Asia (the larger player base making up the other 5 - 6 million) buying time slots not monthly recurring fees.  So it's not really accurate to say 9 - 10 million recurring subs.

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  • maplestonemaplestone Ottawa, ONPosts: 3,099Member Uncommon
    "and monetize it" is rapidly becoming one of the most chilling phrases in the English language. 
  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Arkham, VAPosts: 10,910Member Common

    Originally posted by Slampig
    Originally posted by lizardbones Given that buying four expansions is going to cost something like $100 or more, it certainly wouldn't hurt them to get people into the game and playing through a lot of content for free. I would think that initial cost is a huge hurdle to get people to jump over.
    You can grab all of the games at Amazon for under $50, add in $40 for MoP and you are still under your $100.


    Also, you assume people are going to buy the entire cataloge at one time. 

    It doesn't matter if they buy expacs all at once or one at a time, they will end up spending close to a $100. More than $100 if they use the Blizzard store. Blizzard has pretty much tapped the market for people who would be willing to buy the game and all the xpacs. They didn't have 10 million people playing since 2006, they've just stopped gaining as many new players as they have been.

    Now, I don't think Blizzard needs to do a longer free trial, I just don't think it would hurt the game to do it. It could possibly benefit the game by getting more people playing.

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  • VercinVercin Frederick, MDPosts: 290Member Uncommon

    I like subscription models, it helps restrain me from spending way more a month then I should.

    15$ a month is fine, but I have played f2p and end up spending 3$ here..4$ here....end of the moth I have spent 50 bucks on stuff I will use for the month cause I thought it was cool and  then is buried in my inventory.

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  • RelGnRelGn halalaPosts: 494Member
    free to play till 60 would be a very good thing

  • sniperman248sniperman248 Hanover, PAPosts: 23Member Uncommon
    It would be a great idea. And for the oh they have 9.1million subs here's the thing Aion had 11 million yet they went f2p and now their population went up to 16million and they are making more money than they did off of subscriptions alone. People are willing to spend more on a cash shop a week than what blizzard is making now just in one month.
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