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  • DJJazzyDJJazzy louisville, COPosts: 2,053Member

    Yeah, open up the pet management page to see what abilities each pet has. Quite a few of them have a heal on hit type of ability.

    The only pet I've ever had trouble with is the Shark. I so wanted to like it but it is literally a glass cannon. A couple of hits and its toast. Almost every other pet will survive a lot longer.

  • TheHavokTheHavok San Jose, CAPosts: 2,398Member Uncommon

    I used the default pets, the Jungle Stalker and the Brown Bear.  Pop the Stalker's Mighty Roar when bursting down somebody and then switch to the Bear if i'm being targetted and need to use its Purge.  The Purge is way to useful to pass up so the Bear is definitely a mainstay.

    The pathing of the pets could also be improved.  They tend to have a hard time around obstacles.

  • Enok4TwunniEnok4Twunni Joshua, TXPosts: 207Member
    Originally posted by DJJazzy

    Yeah, open up the pet management page to see what abilities each pet has. Quite a few of them have a heal on hit type of ability.

    The only pet I've ever had trouble with is the Shark. I so wanted to like it but it is literally a glass cannon. A couple of hits and its toast. Almost every other pet will survive a lot longer.

    Sweet, I'll check it out next time I'm able to play. Bear is pretty solid. Sucks that the shark doesn't have it. I'd literally give up a utility slot for a mend pet skill. Something with a low CD.

  • fiontarfiontar Dana, MAPosts: 3,719Member

    I played Ranger in BWE1 and wasn't too wild about it. I played it in BWE3 and liked it enough for Ranger to be one of my first three professions come launch.

    During BWE3, I got to level 13 with my Ranger and only had 3-4 pet deaths the entire way. You have to mid the pet's health the way you would your own. Your heal skills heal you and your pet and as a ranger, you need to heal your pet more often then you need to heal yourself.

    You also have to learn how to effectively swap pets and when to put a pet on Passive and call them back from battle.

    The pet is a powerful tool. They are pretty effective tanks, but just like Warriors and Guardians, they can't just go toe to toe with a foe and take a pounding for the entire length of the fight.  You have to use them for control and as a distraction, so you can gain beneficial positioning against a foe and as a means of "confusing" a foe by swapping it's focus from the Pet to the Ranger and back again.

    If your pet does die, it will self revive and heal while it's on swap out with another pet. The swap cooldown is longer than swapping a still living pet, but once the cooldown is over, they will be able to return fully healed. There is no reason for a Ranger to be more than 40 seconds with out a pet and that worst case scenario assumes that you make the swap and the second pet is one shotted.

    Once you get skilled at managing your pet, there is no reason to experience pet death unless it's taken down with an unavoidable burst or it's deliberately sacrificed to allow the Ranger a narrow escape from an unwinnable fight.

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  • Enok4TwunniEnok4Twunni Joshua, TXPosts: 207Member
    Here's a thought. Would it be cool to see a tactics menu where you could set up what your pet did like you can in Dragon Age and Dragon Age II?
  • Br3akingDawnBr3akingDawn a City, CAPosts: 1,357Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by enoch420
    Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

    What little i've played so far, as a Ranger... Its pretty much a guarantee for my pet to be beaten to hell and the mob to come after me then.

    Which leads to me having to run the hell away.

    Yea this happens to me almost everytime I pull more than two mobs at a time. I think WoW had hunter pets down pretty good. I do switch pets when they start getting low on hp, but my gripe is that they get low hp way too fast. I love the way pets look and move in GW 2, even more than WoW's. Loque Nahak is kinda hard to beat though. :) 

    I'm an animal lover in real life so I hope that down the road ranger pets become a bigger part and a more important part of the ranger. Please read this Colin J. :)

    WoW hunter pets is horrible, all you have to do is stand there and shoot while it does the tanking and dpsing.

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  • XthosXthos Columbus, OHPosts: 2,628Member

    I played in the first beta for pre-orders, tried the ranger, pet seemed dead 24/7....I like playing ranged classes, usually play a Necro or Ranger type, but I was not too thrilled with either, but I didn't give it a lot of time either....So if it is like it was, in the begtinning, my pet was dead after most fights it seemed.

     

     

    I just figured I would wait till the game was close to launch, then read up on it, and go back at it, during the pre-launch.  Been playing TSW, I enjoy the game, but kinda of waiting on new content for it...Will probably play both.

  • Enok4TwunniEnok4Twunni Joshua, TXPosts: 207Member
    Yea WoW pets might have been a bit OP, but WoW hunters also had nowhere near the survivability in melee like a GW 2 ranger does. I do, however, think the WoW Beastmaster spec is closer to what a Beastmaster spec should be. Just a matter of opinion.
  • DraemosDraemos Antartica, AKPosts: 1,469Member
    I've been pretty unimpressed w/ the pet system.  I went into the game expecting to roll Ranger and the pets turned me off it it entirely.
  • MagnetiaMagnetia SydneyPosts: 1,029Member Uncommon

    To all rangers complaining about dead pets.

    Did you notice it's health bar? Did you heal it when it was getting damaged?

    I think much like myself most people had no idea where the pet information was and never took care of the thing, thinking it would just heal itself or something. One thing I couldn't get used to was using my heal cd to heal my pet. I only healed when MY health was low. I never even thought about healing my pet. 

    Eventually I used pet swapping and that made it a little easier, but wasn't a complete fix.

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  • ComfyChairComfyChair BirminghamPosts: 758Member

    Considering you have two of them at any one time, it's not an issue really :)

    You'll find the pets with heals also tend to stay alive a lot longer. There definitely are 'tanking' pets that are designed more for being beat up on (like the pink moa has a higher toughness stat than most pets).

     

  • sinloisinloi dunedin, FLPosts: 198Member Uncommon
    i basically said screw the pet and made him a sniper. which "worked" the problem is even though i stowed the pet he would automatically come out like freakin psyduk from pokemon run headlong into machine gun fire and limp back to my, i found put though that they auto heal even when downed so really ignore them let them do their own thing lol
  • sinloisinloi dunedin, FLPosts: 198Member Uncommon
    and yes i watch the health bar of the pet but it became worthless to heal him because a) he died to fast for me to get any heal off and b) i couldnt heal myself if i suddenly started getting kicked around.
  • ColeguillaColeguilla A CoruPosts: 23Member

    This is one on the few things I really dislike about GW2. The pet system works very good, there are lot of pets with diferent skills, stats and everything looks more usefull and confortable. What I don't really like is the lack of choice for the player like GW1. I can't choose the stats or skills of my pet so everytime I need one pet I have to choose based in their skills and not the type. There are no trainings, and I think that's cool because it was a really boring thing about the first game.¿But do the game really need to eliminate the chance of changing the pet skills and stats and let the player get what he likes like the first game?

    For example I play with bears in PvE because with 2 of them you can tank groups of mobs or hard elite mobs/bosses much better than any other pet. The only problem here is.... I don't like bears. Maybe for someone who cames from other game where yo can't choose like in GW1 sounds like something stupid, but I really miss the freedom of choice in this.

  • VannorVannor YorkshirePosts: 2,970Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Magnetia

    To all rangers complaining about dead pets.

    Did you notice it's health bar? Did you heal it when it was getting damaged?

    I think much like myself most people had no idea where the pet information was and never took care of the thing, thinking it would just heal itself or something. One thing I couldn't get used to was using my heal cd to heal my pet. I only healed when MY health was low. I never even thought about healing my pet. 

    Eventually I used pet swapping and that made it a little easier, but wasn't a complete fix.

    This is probably the best advice. Troll Unguent is very useful for this in solo PvE.

     

    Anyway, we all know that what we really want is to be able to get armor for our pets. Not expecting it though.

  • c-motc-mot FrankfurtPosts: 49Member Uncommon

    i always keep an eye on my pet's health and use my area heal to keep it up or swap the pet when necessary.

    i usually have a tank (bear, dog, pig) and a DPS pet (cat, eagle) to swap back and forth. it works pretty well for me. i also try to choose the pets for the best situations, ie. when playing in groups i choose my cat (group buff on F2), when running around solo a lot i select the eagle (DPS special).

    i am used to play with pets from my SWG times (loved being a creature handler and a beast master later on) and i always build my playstyle around the pet/master system when playing such a class. of course there are best pets, but i found in GW2 each pet can be useful when you know its strength and weaknesses.

    in underwater combat they seemed to have weakened the overpowered jelly fish from what i noticed in the last stress tests. but those little buggers are still the best pets in the game (good tanking with an area heal in water that could heal me too and an incredidble damage skill on F2 burning thru the health of all mobs nearby) :-).

  • alkrmralkrmr warminster, PAPosts: 237Member Common
    pretty sure in a very recent interview they said that the pets will now regain health slowly even after downed
  • SethronSethron kentPosts: 12Member
    Originally posted by yaoming36

    Hi I'm ranger level 25. In most fights, my pet is pretty decent tanker.

    I have 2 signets on, one which increases the defence of pet and myself

    And another which provides regenaration of myself and pet. Both of these are passive. Usually in any DE, my pet can survive  quiet easily with the help of my heal. 

    The only place my pet ever dies is when we're taking on a boss or so and even then I can usually avoid death by simply pressing F3.

    Pro Tip: Swap out pets right when one pet has about 10% hp left. That way your cooldown for bringing the initial pet back into fight is 20 seconds as opposed to 60 seconds if you let it die first. 

    I feel many people don't use the swap function often. Swapping pets is crutial and another form of strategy to the ranger. Here are some reasons below.

    - Full health upon swapping.

    - Downed pets can't be swapped in or out and they'll be fully revived. 

    - Allows to pull your pet out of damage AoEs instantly. 

     

    i agree with you here, i rolled a ranger and i LOVED it so much, so much versitility in gameplay.

    Get your pet in there and shoot with your longbow (longbow speaks for itself, just make sure to save point blank shot as you dont want to push enemys away at this time), get some bleeding going on before swaping to a sword/axe combo and getting stuck in to get some poison effect along side the pet attacks+bleeding+cripple.

    Taking a little much damage up close, simple, swap out to the longbow and point blank shot to push the enemy back then heal/swap pet out and repeat for some condition heavy controled fights

    P.S. the axe offhand means that wile your in close if your taking damage from alot of ranged attacks, just whirling defence and BOOM!

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  • Enok4TwunniEnok4Twunni Joshua, TXPosts: 207Member
    Originally posted by Magnetia

    To all rangers complaining about dead pets.

    Did you notice it's health bar? Did you heal it when it was getting damaged?

    I think much like myself most people had no idea where the pet information was and never took care of the thing, thinking it would just heal itself or something. One thing I couldn't get used to was using my heal cd to heal my pet. I only healed when MY health was low. I never even thought about healing my pet. 

    Eventually I used pet swapping and that made it a little easier, but wasn't a complete fix.

    Yea I definately knew where the health bar was and watched it closely. Troll Ungent is by far the strongest heal, but also has the longest cd. I think a dedicated pet heal would be nice instead of having your heal tied in with your pets heal.

    I mentioned this earlier and didn't see a response to it, but I think it'd be awesome if there was a tactics menu like the one you find in the Dragon Age games. If you could set up you pets tactics so they would use their specials at certain times or run out of AoE damage it'd be nice. 

    Just to change up the tone of the thread a bit, what's everyone's favorite pet combnation?

    I use a Bear/Jungle Stalker and a Jellyfish/ Drake combo.

     

  • JustsomenoobJustsomenoob lexington, KYPosts: 871Member

    For ordinary PVE roaming around,maybe doing some DEs as you come across them and see people playing...

     

    Use two bears.  That's your best bet if you just want to be mostly lazy.   Do a pet swap as their health gets low.

  • MagnetiaMagnetia SydneyPosts: 1,029Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by enoch420
    Originally posted by Magnetia

    To all rangers complaining about dead pets.

    Did you notice it's health bar? Did you heal it when it was getting damaged?

    I think much like myself most people had no idea where the pet information was and never took care of the thing, thinking it would just heal itself or something. One thing I couldn't get used to was using my heal cd to heal my pet. I only healed when MY health was low. I never even thought about healing my pet. 

    Eventually I used pet swapping and that made it a little easier, but wasn't a complete fix.

    Yea I definately knew where the health bar was and watched it closely. Troll Ungent is by far the strongest heal, but also has the longest cd. I think a dedicated pet heal would be nice instead of having your heal tied in with your pets heal.

    I mentioned this earlier and didn't see a response to it, but I think it'd be awesome if there was a tactics menu like the one you find in the Dragon Age games. If you could set up you pets tactics so they would use their specials at certain times or run out of AoE damage it'd be nice. 

    Just to change up the tone of the thread a bit, what's everyone's favorite pet combnation?

    I use a Bear/Jungle Stalker and a Jellyfish/ Drake combo.

     

    I couldn't test the heals extensively because I only spent a small amount of time on the ranger but just enough to start notciing its health. It really does seem like they need some armor change or something.

    I had a drake pet and that thing died all the time on me. My armorfish though was badass.

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  • Ice-QueenIce-Queen USA, GAPosts: 2,451Member Uncommon
    If you want to do a lot of WvsWvsW, I'd suggest the warrior over the ranger. Rangers pets are pretty darn useless in big WvsWvsW battles.

     

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  • paulythebpaulytheb Wauwatosa, WIPosts: 261Member Uncommon

    I played a Ranger a little bit.

    I kinda saw my pet was useful as just a distraction.  Trying to play a dps pet that early in the game is going to be difficult. A tanky pet seemed to keep a mob busy for a bit while I dispatched the other nearby mobs that always seem to be around.

     

    Once max level rolls around we will have to see how they play and how strong the pet builds can be. I for one would be planning on a pretty weak pet and buffing my own combat abilities for W V W v W , a weak gimmick pet with poison or something  might help some but I would plan on doing most of the damage myself.

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  • Enok4TwunniEnok4Twunni Joshua, TXPosts: 207Member
    See my whole issue is that a ranger, like the WoW hunter, is a class based on pet/player combat. If I wanted to just shoot stuff I could play a few of the other classes and that'd be fine, however, the ranger's pet should play a bigger part in combat and in Ranger survivability without taking away from the fact that players shouldn't be lazy and just rely on the pet. In WoW you could pull multiple mobs with your pet and they'd be able to really dish out some decent damage while staying alive. I'm just a big fan of being a beast master and would love a beast master tree buff, but again I really want to get a ranger to a higher level before I can be sure or not if it's viable or not.
  • grapevinegrapevine PeterboroughPosts: 1,927Member
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by stevebmbsqd
    The pet system in GW2 is really weak. I rolled a ranger and I just couldn't get into it. It didn't feel like a ranger or even a hunter for that matter.

    same actually ranger was the only class of the 8 i didn't care for

     

    Agree, which is a shame as if it wasn't for the pet I enjoyed the others aspects more than the other classes.   

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