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When GW2 fails, what's next mmo you're going to be irrationally hyped about?
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Again, I am not insulting anyone. If you feel adressed the shame's on you.
Just to note, I am also looking forward to GW2, and have preordered it.
That makes no sense at all.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
GW2 can not fail because its B2P.
There for no shrinking subscriber base.
And I am sure everyone will get enough satisfaction 50$ game can give.
There for it can not fail
As for next hype MMO
Sorry to say the future is bleak
I'm still waiting an answer to my previous post. I won't repeat myself, go read it and try answering instead of spouting non-sense
Block the trolls, don't answer them, so we can remove the garbage from these forums
"What's the point on being a fanboy? Why can't you just be nice instead of acting as some company's barking dog and jumping at the throat of anyone who dares say anything negative about the game that at that moment is target of your neverending devotion?"
You're not convincing anyone. The longer the thread goes on, the more you insult people, not less.
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Ehm, you can't exactly take your own opinion about these games and point them out as "facts about GW2 vs other MMOs". You seem to think all the basic features are great - but not all will share that opinion. I certainly don't.
For instance, I actually prefer many of the features of TOR to those of GW2. I think TOR has a MUCH MUCH better PvE story experience. I think TSW has an even better story experience than that.
From what I've seen of the GW2 personal story, it's among the worst of any modern MMO. The writing is worse than WoW, even.
I think the TOR classes are much more appealing to me - and their progression when levelling is a lot more interesting in terms of the abilities you can look forward to throughout - especially through the talent trees. WoW is much better still.
All that is based on my time with the betas, and I spent a lot of time checking out the utility skills of the Thief and Ranger. Most of them were defensive and highly situational in nature. The traits are mostly passive boosts (not all though) - but nothing I saw made me go: I can't WAIT for that cool skill or that cool ability. Some people apparently think it's great that they can unlock the vast majority of the exciting stuff in a few hours. I most certainly don't. I like to have something to look forward to for the entire levelling experience. I don't WANT the best stuff right away - because then I'll just exhaust content and the player horison that much sooner. I don't like the grind - I HATE the grind - but I do love having something to look forward to.
I also happen to hate the small/limited arsenal and weapon switching system. It feels unnatural and overly restricted. As for what's likely or unlikely - that's useless. We've seen a ton of examples of games that were supposedly going to be masterful based on beta content - but because of lack of time/resources/talent and so on, they just didn't deliver. Many of those times, I've been shocked to discover something was missing.
Recently, Diablo 3 absolutely SHOCKED me in terms of the dreadfully stale loot system. Something that took a while to discover - and I played 50-60 hours before fully realising how awful their loot design was. That's from Blizzard - an otherwise highly competent developer.
Point being: We simply can't know yet. Hype yourself if you must - be at least understand that it's nothing but hype and faith.
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I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
And you can hate the game if you must, but at least understand that it's nothing but hatred and ignorance.
When we don't know about a game it can certainly go both ways. To each their own I guess
Block the trolls, don't answer them, so we can remove the garbage from these forums
UTUBE HAZ NEVA LIED 2 ME!!!!
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I don't understand the question. What do you mean by "fail"? Fail to do what? Fail to be what it has already shown itself to be for three beta weekend events?
It seems to me that you and many others only care if GW2 becomes "the next big thing"; you don't really care about game desgn, features, innovations, core philosophy, etc. While GW2 might fail to become "the next big thing", it certainly cannot fail to be exactly what I, and many, many others, have been wanting in an MMOG, nor can it fail to live up to reasonable expectations that are based on actually playing the game.
I guess there are people that, even though they enjoy the game structure and features, will not want to play any more if GW2 doesn't become "the next big thing". Whether or not GW2 has WoW-like success doesn't matter at all to me.
As far as future games are concerned, none of them are as directed towards my playstyle as GW2, perhaps except for ESO, but I don't find ESO interesting because of the dark, serious graphics that run throughout the Elder Scrolls series.
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
I read it wrong?
Pure projection - you wrote it wrong if it was supposed to say something different.
I suppose you didn't also mean to imply I am a fanboy with this last statement too? What about my 'neverending devotion'?
Don't pretend to be more reasonable that you actually are - reasonable people don't need to make perjorative statements and dance around the issues with pointed implications. We say what we mean....
.... and we don't need to call other people 'barking dogs' to blow the opposing point of view clean out of the water....
Now - you enjoy typing whatever it is you want to state in response to this - I am sure the thread version of the 'downed state' you are now in allows you to do that - but I am off to cap the next flag and am done with your comments on this thread - too circular and blinkered.
Reason for Edit: Omnifish raised a fair point.
I can't hate anything I have no emotional investment in.
Try thinking in terms other than black and white.
I'm simply pointing out that there's no basis for love OR hate with any kind of certainty.
If I could have my way, the game would be perfect and deliver everything to everyone. Obviously, that can't happen - and so we stick to reality.
As it is, I certainly HOPE people get out of GW2 what they're hoping for, but I've always preferred to let common sense and a tempered reaction be the approach. That way, you don't get bitter and disappointed and THEN start to irrationally hate what you thought would be wonderful.
That's why so many people DESPISE WoW and TOR - because they let themselves be disappointed. Most of the loudest detractors are those who used to be the most aggressive supporters, especially before release.
Why put yourself through that?
If GW2 is really that good - then it will speak for itself, and you can all rest easy just enjoying the game. Try to accept that other people might have other opinions about what it may or may not achieve. It has nothing to do with "hate". It's called different tastes and preferences.
The problem with the "hype" as all haters keep calling it is, that it isn't hype anymore. We have played it and the reality is that is a very good game. So no matter how you pick it apart, the entire game is fun and only $60.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
What is this analogy for? It makes less sense than you making no sense.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Yes, you've played the beta of the game. That's not the full game, though. It's also not long-term experience with the design or formula.
But if you must tell yourself that, do so. But it'll never be more true because of it.
The old alt/ inactive accounts are getting woken up to help create bad feeling towards this title for sure.
I guess there are a lot of worried parties out there who see the excitement and love GW2 is getting and feel the need to counter it with a little negative opinion forming.
Good lord, I'll have become irrationally hyped long before it fails. GW2 is already a distant memory, I'm stoked for GW3 it's got pandas wielding light sabres.
Obvious troll is obvious.
Once again, people are picking apart what I feel and injecting how I should think. Thousands of others feel the same. If you don't care for the game simply don't play it. The hype has been replaced by reality, and that is it is a very good game.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
None of what's, 'promised', is relevent here.
He isn't wrong at all, all he's doing is making assumptions based on what he's seen and making points on if long term this sort of content will lead to consistent enjoyment. A fair point wouldn't you say?
It really isn't relevent how much time it took to make, or what their manifesto says, the proofs in the pudding and you haven't seen the whole pudding yet. It's not illogical to be cautious, all of your assumptions are based on a fundamental belief in everything Anet says. Not everyone else has such faith in an ultimately profit making business.
Your entitled to be excited for an upcoming game, but noone is, 'wrong', for being a bit more cautious.
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Yes, I can't and no, I don't. Of course, some people will dislike GW2. Maybe you will. However, the ones who loved the betas are very likely to love the final version and it definitely looks like they're the majority.
We can't know yet? Duh! Of course we can't. You can't know you'll be able to finish reading this sentence before the world explodes. Is your point really something THAT obvious? Also,
Hype:
1. Excessive publicity and the ensuing commotion
2. Exaggerated or extravagant claims made especially in advertising or promotional material
3. An advertising or promotional ploy
4. Something deliberately misleading
So, which one of these is "I've played a game and liked it"?