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Poll: Does this prove SWG was the better game?

TimothyTierlessTimothyTierless ColumnistM, ORPosts: 2,163Member Uncommon

Title says it all. SWTOR killed 8 years of memories because it was greedy, and it couldn't last more than 8 months, just sad. If they made the themepark/sandbox hybrid we all asked for instead of VO without gameplay we would all be talking about how WOW is going FTP.

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  • MMOExposedMMOExposed lalal land, DCPosts: 6,257Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Xobdnas

    Title says it all. SWTOR killed 8 years of memories because it was greedy, and it couldn't last more than 8 months, just sad. If they made the themepark/sandbox hybrid we all asked for instead of VO without gameplay we would all be talking about how WOW is going FTP.

    I voted No.

     

    Why?

     

    because SWTOR was overhyped by the community, not developers. And many people got this game for the wrong reasons (nothing gameplay related)

     

    This is why this game seem like fail to the masses.

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  • thekid1thekid1 GroningenPosts: 789Member
    Originally posted by MMOExposed
    Originally posted by Xobdnas

    Title says it all. SWTOR killed 8 years of memories because it was greedy, and it couldn't last more than 8 months, just sad. If they made the themepark/sandbox hybrid we all asked for instead of VO without gameplay we would all be talking about how WOW is going FTP.

    I voted No.

     

    Why?

     

    because SWTOR was overhyped by the community, not developers. And many people got this game for the wrong reasons (nothing gameplay related)

     

    This is why this game seem like fail to the masses.

    Yeah, EA is not in the habit of spending huge amount of money on marketing (and bought reviews)

    I know, because I watched Bioware TV.

     

  • WarriorNeedsWarriorNeeds Kansas City, KSPosts: 34Member
    Originally posted by MMOExposed

    because SWTOR was overhyped by the community, not developers. And many people got this game for the wrong reasons (nothing gameplay related)

     

    This is why this game seem like fail to the masses.

    So true.

  • TimothyTierlessTimothyTierless Columnist M, ORPosts: 2,163Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by MMOExposed
    Originally posted by Xobdnas Title says it all. SWTOR killed 8 years of memories because it was greedy, and it couldn't last more than 8 months, just sad. If they made the themepark/sandbox hybrid we all asked for instead of VO without gameplay we would all be talking about how WOW is going FTP.
    I voted No.

     

    Why?

     

    because SWTOR was overhyped by the community, not developers. And many people got this game for the wrong reasons (nothing gameplay related)

     

    This is why this game seem like fail to the masses.


    So when they said they projected 3-5 mill but weren't ruling out 10 mill they weren't over hyping? When they claimed they invented story and were the first VO MMO (despite DCU doing it first) they weren't trying to drum up hype? Not to mention hype has 0 to do with which game was a better game when you played it.

  • WeretigarWeretigar winifrede, WVPosts: 609Member

    I voted yes, why because it lasted june 26th 03- dec 15th 11. The whole time on subs. It had 10,363 sub. on its last night. 7+ years with the sub model.

  • WalterWhiteWalterWhite CardiffPosts: 394Member Uncommon

    SWG was years ahead of it's time and many MMO's of today cannot replicate many aspects of the game today.

    I know it had it's faults but re-release it today without the bugs and todays graphics, it would rock.

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  • SouldrainerSouldrainer Elmer, NJPosts: 1,857Member

    SWTOR is still profitable, according to Bioware.  However, if SWG were to come out today, it would be FTP too.  That is what people are into these days.

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  • shinkanshinkan BestinPosts: 229Member

    I voted no, cause there never was any reason for comparrison of these two games. I loved SWG until nge, but SWTOR was never planed as a replacement, from the moment bioware was announced as the maker i knew this would be a story driven mmo. So i bought it to play the story and then quit..... nice story and nice coop game.

  • MMOExposedMMOExposed lalal land, DCPosts: 6,257Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Xobdnas

     


    Originally posted by MMOExposed

    Originally posted by Xobdnas Title says it all. SWTOR killed 8 years of memories because it was greedy, and it couldn't last more than 8 months, just sad. If they made the themepark/sandbox hybrid we all asked for instead of VO without gameplay we would all be talking about how WOW is going FTP.
    I voted No.

     

     

    Why?

     

    because SWTOR was overhyped by the community, not developers. And many people got this game for the wrong reasons (nothing gameplay related)

     

    This is why this game seem like fail to the masses.


     

    So when they said they projected 3-5 mill but weren't ruling out 10 mill they weren't over hyping?when was it hype for a product owner to predict sells? obviously those numbers were off. but thats not the point.

    When they claimed they invented story and were the first VO MMO (despite DCU doing it first) they weren't trying to drum up hype?

    when the only major feature about the game was Story, and not a gameplay feature, I would say no. Cutscenes are there.... they said they would, and did.

     

    Not to mention hype has 0 to do with which game was a better game when you played it.

    it does in the eyes of people such as yourself who brought this game for all the wrong reasons (nothing gameplay related)

     

     

    in before I get warning/ban for flaming.....

     

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  • MMOExposedMMOExposed lalal land, DCPosts: 6,257Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Scummyman

    SWG was years ahead of it's time and many MMO's of today cannot replicate many aspects of the game today.

    I know it had it's faults but re-release it today without the bugs and todays bugs, it would rock.

    I doubt it. Thats like saying, releasing Vanilla WoW, without bugs, today would have the same success.... nope.

     

    new generation of MMO gaming mindset.

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  • TimothyTierlessTimothyTierless Columnist M, ORPosts: 2,163Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by MMOExposed
    Originally posted by Xobdnas   Originally posted by MMOExposed Originally posted by Xobdnas Title says it all. SWTOR killed 8 years of memories because it was greedy, and it couldn't last more than 8 months, just sad. If they made the themepark/sandbox hybrid we all asked for instead of VO without gameplay we would all be talking about how WOW is going FTP.
    I voted No.     Why?   because SWTOR was overhyped by the community, not developers. And many people got this game for the wrong reasons (nothing gameplay related)   This is why this game seem like fail to the masses.
      So when they said they projected 3-5 mill but weren't ruling out 10 mill they weren't over hyping?when was it hype for a product owner to predict sells? obviously those numbers were off. but thats not the point. When they claimed they invented story and were the first VO MMO (despite DCU doing it first) they weren't trying to drum up hype? when the only major feature about the game was Story, and not a gameplay feature, I would say no. Cutscenes are there.... they said they would, and did.   Not to mention hype has 0 to do with which game was a better game when you played it. it does in the eyes of people such as yourself who brought this game for all the wrong reasons (nothing gameplay related)     in before I get warning/ban for flaming.....
     

    Logic is not sound, logic is flawed.

  • MMOExposedMMOExposed lalal land, DCPosts: 6,257Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Xobdnas

     


    Originally posted by MMOExposed

    Originally posted by Xobdnas  

    Originally posted by MMOExposed

    Originally posted by Xobdnas Title says it all. SWTOR killed 8 years of memories because it was greedy, and it couldn't last more than 8 months, just sad. If they made the themepark/sandbox hybrid we all asked for instead of VO without gameplay we would all be talking about how WOW is going FTP.
    I voted No.     Why?   because SWTOR was overhyped by the community, not developers. And many people got this game for the wrong reasons (nothing gameplay related)   This is why this game seem like fail to the masses.
      So when they said they projected 3-5 mill but weren't ruling out 10 mill they weren't over hyping?when was it hype for a product owner to predict sells? obviously those numbers were off. but thats not the point. When they claimed they invented story and were the first VO MMO (despite DCU doing it first) they weren't trying to drum up hype? when the only major feature about the game was Story, and not a gameplay feature, I would say no. Cutscenes are there.... they said they would, and did.   Not to mention hype has 0 to do with which game was a better game when you played it. it does in the eyes of people such as yourself who brought this game for all the wrong reasons (nothing gameplay related)     in before I get warning/ban for flaming.....
     

     

    Logic is not sound, logic is flawed.

    Show me the gameplay hype....

     

    please show me this gameplay hype.....

     

    Edit:

     

    from prereleaseall I can remember from the SWTOR community was this back and forth with GW2 community, and the hype over the fact its a MMO in the StarWars universe (so the hell what), and that its Story Focused (So the Hell What), and its made by Bioware (So the F***ing Hell What).

    iam suppose to be hyped over that?
    seriously.....

    only a Amateur MMO player would fall for blind hype like that over a new MMO...

    This is why I cant be sorrowful for people that were overhyped by this game. Its all on you, specially those that are MMO vets that lived through Warhammer, AoC, DF hype. this is crazy to repeat this action again...

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  • MyriaMyria Lowell, MAPosts: 570Member Uncommon

    If even a fraction of the people who won't shut the hell up about SWG had actually been playing it, it wouldn't be a distant (rose coloured) memory.

  • AbdarAbdar Thunder Bay, ONPosts: 400Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Scummyman

    SWG was years ahead of it's time and many MMO's of today cannot replicate many aspects of the game today.

    I know it had it's faults but re-release it today without the bugs and todays bugs, it would rock.

    Agreed.. especially with updated graphics and story lines...  would not have gone free to play this fast. SWTOR was crap.. the subs showed  that and didn't even last a year without going free to play. How long did SWG last? 5 years ish? (I have no clue). 

    Either way, SWG > SWTOR hands down. I would kill for a game with the same gathering/crafting system, player housing, pvp and pre combat upgrade.

  • kantseemekantseeme millville, NJPosts: 709Member
    Originally posted by MMOExposed
    Originally posted by Xobdnas

    Title says it all. SWTOR killed 8 years of memories because it was greedy, and it couldn't last more than 8 months, just sad. If they made the themepark/sandbox hybrid we all asked for instead of VO without gameplay we would all be talking about how WOW is going FTP.

    I voted No.

     

    Why?

     

    because SWTOR was overhyped by the community, not developers. And many people got this game for the wrong reasons (nothing gameplay related)

     

    This is why this game seem like fail to the masses.

    WHAT!

  • GreenishBlueGreenishBlue Baltimore, MDPosts: 263Member

    Not sure. TOR's CGI trailers rock. Oh wait, that's not gameplay.

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  • Creslin321Creslin321 Baltimore, MDPosts: 5,359Member
    Originally posted by kantseeme
    Originally posted by MMOExposed
    Originally posted by Xobdnas

    Title says it all. SWTOR killed 8 years of memories because it was greedy, and it couldn't last more than 8 months, just sad. If they made the themepark/sandbox hybrid we all asked for instead of VO without gameplay we would all be talking about how WOW is going FTP.

    I voted No.

     

    Why?

     

    because SWTOR was overhyped by the community, not developers. And many people got this game for the wrong reasons (nothing gameplay related)

     

    This is why this game seem like fail to the masses.

    WHAT!

     Oh?

    http://www.industrygamers.com/news/star-wars-the-old-republic-has-200-hours-of-gameplay--for-each-class/

    http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Star-Wars-The-Old-republic-500-worlds-MMOG-PC-Gaming,13124.html

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  • NildenNilden null, NBPosts: 1,284Member Uncommon

    I think it proves it in abundance, SWG never went F2P. They killed it for SWTOR F2P.

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  • knighthammerknighthammer norwichPosts: 22Member

    I loved Galaxies as it gave me freedom to do what ever i wanted, i could craft, do up my 2 sandcrawlers as part of the "lil Green Rodian trading company",  do Tusken King ect, explore, do quests, socialise amongst many many oher things.

    Personaly, to me it was the better game, in the end i could hardly do 8-9 hours a week on SWTOR before unsubbing but could easily do that a day on SWG.

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  • jeremyjodesjeremyjodes antioch, ORPosts: 679Member

    Sure the last true starwars MMO was the best. even in it's broken state it was/will be better then TOR could have been. people like to make fun of us old dinosuars but so far we have been right.

    Plus the forums are on fire over there,it's given me something to do watching the rest of this debacle enter it's final stage.

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  • Preacher26Preacher26 saranac, NYPosts: 378Member
    Originally posted by Souldrainer

    SWTOR is still profitable, according to Bioware.  However, if SWG were to come out today, it would be FTP too.  That is what people are into these days.

    I dont think its what people are into these days.. I just dont think people are wiling to pay for the same old crap year after year.

    When a company grows a pair and actually delivers something new, people will be more than willing to pay for it.

  • azmundaiazmundai St Louis, MOPosts: 1,417Member

    you can't prove subjective statements. not even with a poll.

    LFD tools are great for cramming people into content, but quality > quantity.
    I am, usually on the sandbox .. more "hardcore" side of things, but I also do just want to have fun. So lighten up already :)

  • SuperXero89SuperXero89 Amory, MSPosts: 2,544Member Uncommon

    I don't think it proves anything.  You can't compare a game released in 2003 to a game released in 2011.  There wasn't a lot of competition when SWG released, but SW:TOR faces a ton of competition already on the market in addition to several anticipated upcoming games.

    SWG was plagued with major problems for its entire lifespan whereas SW:TOR is a fairly solid game in every quantifiable aspect.  SWG benefitted by being more unique with less games for frustrated players to return to unlike SW:TOR which is so similar to WoW and other games that players are likely to return to those games whenever frustrated by bugs or a lack of content.

  • WarriorNeedsWarriorNeeds Kansas City, KSPosts: 34Member
    Originally posted by MMOExposed

    only a Amateur MMO player would fall for blind hype like that over a new MMO...

    This is why I cant be sorrowful for people that were overhyped by this game. Its all on you, specially those that are MMO vets that lived through Warhammer, AoC, DF hype. this is crazy to repeat this action again...

    This is why when the next over-hyped-game (you know the one I'm talking about) falls flat on it's arse, I won't be feeling the least bit of sorry for the mindless drones.

  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Manchester, NHPosts: 2,931Member Uncommon

    SWTOR was a FAR FAR better game on release than SWG.

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